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4plexowner
Participant“I’d rather buy a cheaper house with a high interest rate than an expensive house with a low interest rate”
amen to that – high interest rates is one of the things that will cause a real market bottom – as interest rates rise housing prices will drop – at the extreme, interest rates would be so high (mortgages in the 1980s were as high as 21% with 14% being typical) that only cash buyers would be able to purchase real estate (and you can imagine what prices would be like in that environment)
from the bottom caused by high interest rates there is only one direction for real estate to go and that is UP – as interest rates come back down, house prices go back up – the cash buyer gets a mortgage and pulls his equity out to buy more housing in the now rising market – others refi into less expensive mortgages
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as to how long these rates are sustainable: how long can the Fed and our govt continue buying US bonds? when foreigners stop buying US bonds completely (they have already slowed down dramatically) the only buyer will be the Fed – will that be sustainable? at some point people will stop participating in the US economy (putting their money into US bonds and equities) because it has become so much of a farce – very hard to say when that will occur but with China and Russia both calling for a new reserve currency backed by gold, the time of US economic hegemony is drawing to an end …
4plexowner
Participant“I’d rather buy a cheaper house with a high interest rate than an expensive house with a low interest rate”
amen to that – high interest rates is one of the things that will cause a real market bottom – as interest rates rise housing prices will drop – at the extreme, interest rates would be so high (mortgages in the 1980s were as high as 21% with 14% being typical) that only cash buyers would be able to purchase real estate (and you can imagine what prices would be like in that environment)
from the bottom caused by high interest rates there is only one direction for real estate to go and that is UP – as interest rates come back down, house prices go back up – the cash buyer gets a mortgage and pulls his equity out to buy more housing in the now rising market – others refi into less expensive mortgages
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as to how long these rates are sustainable: how long can the Fed and our govt continue buying US bonds? when foreigners stop buying US bonds completely (they have already slowed down dramatically) the only buyer will be the Fed – will that be sustainable? at some point people will stop participating in the US economy (putting their money into US bonds and equities) because it has become so much of a farce – very hard to say when that will occur but with China and Russia both calling for a new reserve currency backed by gold, the time of US economic hegemony is drawing to an end …
4plexowner
Participant“I’d rather buy a cheaper house with a high interest rate than an expensive house with a low interest rate”
amen to that – high interest rates is one of the things that will cause a real market bottom – as interest rates rise housing prices will drop – at the extreme, interest rates would be so high (mortgages in the 1980s were as high as 21% with 14% being typical) that only cash buyers would be able to purchase real estate (and you can imagine what prices would be like in that environment)
from the bottom caused by high interest rates there is only one direction for real estate to go and that is UP – as interest rates come back down, house prices go back up – the cash buyer gets a mortgage and pulls his equity out to buy more housing in the now rising market – others refi into less expensive mortgages
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as to how long these rates are sustainable: how long can the Fed and our govt continue buying US bonds? when foreigners stop buying US bonds completely (they have already slowed down dramatically) the only buyer will be the Fed – will that be sustainable? at some point people will stop participating in the US economy (putting their money into US bonds and equities) because it has become so much of a farce – very hard to say when that will occur but with China and Russia both calling for a new reserve currency backed by gold, the time of US economic hegemony is drawing to an end …
4plexowner
Participant“I’d rather buy a cheaper house with a high interest rate than an expensive house with a low interest rate”
amen to that – high interest rates is one of the things that will cause a real market bottom – as interest rates rise housing prices will drop – at the extreme, interest rates would be so high (mortgages in the 1980s were as high as 21% with 14% being typical) that only cash buyers would be able to purchase real estate (and you can imagine what prices would be like in that environment)
from the bottom caused by high interest rates there is only one direction for real estate to go and that is UP – as interest rates come back down, house prices go back up – the cash buyer gets a mortgage and pulls his equity out to buy more housing in the now rising market – others refi into less expensive mortgages
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as to how long these rates are sustainable: how long can the Fed and our govt continue buying US bonds? when foreigners stop buying US bonds completely (they have already slowed down dramatically) the only buyer will be the Fed – will that be sustainable? at some point people will stop participating in the US economy (putting their money into US bonds and equities) because it has become so much of a farce – very hard to say when that will occur but with China and Russia both calling for a new reserve currency backed by gold, the time of US economic hegemony is drawing to an end …
4plexowner
Participanthttp://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/Chinas-gold-buy-raises-eyebrows/story.aspx?guid={13486258-94EA-44E8-AEC4-3691693D6B42}&dist=SecMostRead
“And it didn’t just announce its gold accumulation last week. It also asked the International Monetary Fund to sell its entire 3,217 tons reserve, Kosares points out.
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The request, combined with the announcement on reserves, “is intended to deliver a message to the financial markets [that China] sees gold as an important part of the overall international monetary scheme — a scheme that may evolve to a system in time,” said Kosares. ”
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China wants to buy all 3200 tons of gold that the IMF holds – guess we better tell them that it has recently tripled in price …
4plexowner
Participanthttp://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/Chinas-gold-buy-raises-eyebrows/story.aspx?guid={13486258-94EA-44E8-AEC4-3691693D6B42}&dist=SecMostRead
“And it didn’t just announce its gold accumulation last week. It also asked the International Monetary Fund to sell its entire 3,217 tons reserve, Kosares points out.
…
The request, combined with the announcement on reserves, “is intended to deliver a message to the financial markets [that China] sees gold as an important part of the overall international monetary scheme — a scheme that may evolve to a system in time,” said Kosares. ”
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China wants to buy all 3200 tons of gold that the IMF holds – guess we better tell them that it has recently tripled in price …
4plexowner
Participanthttp://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/Chinas-gold-buy-raises-eyebrows/story.aspx?guid={13486258-94EA-44E8-AEC4-3691693D6B42}&dist=SecMostRead
“And it didn’t just announce its gold accumulation last week. It also asked the International Monetary Fund to sell its entire 3,217 tons reserve, Kosares points out.
…
The request, combined with the announcement on reserves, “is intended to deliver a message to the financial markets [that China] sees gold as an important part of the overall international monetary scheme — a scheme that may evolve to a system in time,” said Kosares. ”
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China wants to buy all 3200 tons of gold that the IMF holds – guess we better tell them that it has recently tripled in price …
4plexowner
Participanthttp://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/Chinas-gold-buy-raises-eyebrows/story.aspx?guid={13486258-94EA-44E8-AEC4-3691693D6B42}&dist=SecMostRead
“And it didn’t just announce its gold accumulation last week. It also asked the International Monetary Fund to sell its entire 3,217 tons reserve, Kosares points out.
…
The request, combined with the announcement on reserves, “is intended to deliver a message to the financial markets [that China] sees gold as an important part of the overall international monetary scheme — a scheme that may evolve to a system in time,” said Kosares. ”
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China wants to buy all 3200 tons of gold that the IMF holds – guess we better tell them that it has recently tripled in price …
4plexowner
Participanthttp://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/Chinas-gold-buy-raises-eyebrows/story.aspx?guid={13486258-94EA-44E8-AEC4-3691693D6B42}&dist=SecMostRead
“And it didn’t just announce its gold accumulation last week. It also asked the International Monetary Fund to sell its entire 3,217 tons reserve, Kosares points out.
…
The request, combined with the announcement on reserves, “is intended to deliver a message to the financial markets [that China] sees gold as an important part of the overall international monetary scheme — a scheme that may evolve to a system in time,” said Kosares. ”
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China wants to buy all 3200 tons of gold that the IMF holds – guess we better tell them that it has recently tripled in price …
4plexowner
Participantif you had been paying attention to my posts back in 2004 you would have bought gold for under $500 and silver for less than $5 (currently $887 and $12.50)
“Look first for assets that are priced less than their long-term average”
please enlighten us as to what these asset classes are (without mentioning equities) or give us an example
“buying things that have tripled in price in recent times isn’t a wise long-term strategy”
that’s a very simplistic guideline – no mention of fundamental analysis – so oil tripling from $10 to $30 makes it a less-than-wise investment? – oil subsequently went to $147
4plexowner
Participantif you had been paying attention to my posts back in 2004 you would have bought gold for under $500 and silver for less than $5 (currently $887 and $12.50)
“Look first for assets that are priced less than their long-term average”
please enlighten us as to what these asset classes are (without mentioning equities) or give us an example
“buying things that have tripled in price in recent times isn’t a wise long-term strategy”
that’s a very simplistic guideline – no mention of fundamental analysis – so oil tripling from $10 to $30 makes it a less-than-wise investment? – oil subsequently went to $147
4plexowner
Participantif you had been paying attention to my posts back in 2004 you would have bought gold for under $500 and silver for less than $5 (currently $887 and $12.50)
“Look first for assets that are priced less than their long-term average”
please enlighten us as to what these asset classes are (without mentioning equities) or give us an example
“buying things that have tripled in price in recent times isn’t a wise long-term strategy”
that’s a very simplistic guideline – no mention of fundamental analysis – so oil tripling from $10 to $30 makes it a less-than-wise investment? – oil subsequently went to $147
4plexowner
Participantif you had been paying attention to my posts back in 2004 you would have bought gold for under $500 and silver for less than $5 (currently $887 and $12.50)
“Look first for assets that are priced less than their long-term average”
please enlighten us as to what these asset classes are (without mentioning equities) or give us an example
“buying things that have tripled in price in recent times isn’t a wise long-term strategy”
that’s a very simplistic guideline – no mention of fundamental analysis – so oil tripling from $10 to $30 makes it a less-than-wise investment? – oil subsequently went to $147
4plexowner
Participantif you had been paying attention to my posts back in 2004 you would have bought gold for under $500 and silver for less than $5 (currently $887 and $12.50)
“Look first for assets that are priced less than their long-term average”
please enlighten us as to what these asset classes are (without mentioning equities) or give us an example
“buying things that have tripled in price in recent times isn’t a wise long-term strategy”
that’s a very simplistic guideline – no mention of fundamental analysis – so oil tripling from $10 to $30 makes it a less-than-wise investment? – oil subsequently went to $147
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