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January 14, 2008 at 8:54 AM #11499
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January 14, 2008 at 10:26 AM #135470
cr
ParticipantZillow has also become a place for home owners (money renters) to come and complain that the value of their home is too low.
Next time you’re on check out the discussions. There must be a thousand people on there who think their $500,000 2000 sq ft tract home is under valued because they just remodeled it (without permits) and put in SS appliances.
They are in for a treat once Zillow updates their formulas.
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January 15, 2008 at 1:33 PM #136295
CMcG
Participantcooprider–
I did go over there and look at the discussion forums. You’re right — people are bitching like hell because the new algorhythm (sp?) the site has apparently begun using in recent weeks has not only widely changed values (some are way up, some are way down) but because Z apparently changed all the the Zestimate histories. I have to admit I am perplexed about why they did that. My own house value went down $50K practically overnight. I don’t care, because I am not selling…probably never will in my lifetime.
What’s a bit worrisome, though, is that some people are reporting that there are lenders refusing to talk to some people trying, for example, to refi and those lenders are basing that JUST on the Zillow estimate. There are people on there demanding (even threatening to sue) that their Zestimate be removed. They don’t care if the public info about the sales price is up there, but they want the Zestimate GONE. Zillow has responded to these people with a flat-out NO.
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January 15, 2008 at 7:12 PM #136515
CMcG
ParticipantBumping this, because I think the recent Zillow changes are worthy of discussion. I hope some of you guys do, too.
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January 15, 2008 at 7:12 PM #136716
CMcG
ParticipantBumping this, because I think the recent Zillow changes are worthy of discussion. I hope some of you guys do, too.
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January 15, 2008 at 7:12 PM #136747
CMcG
ParticipantBumping this, because I think the recent Zillow changes are worthy of discussion. I hope some of you guys do, too.
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January 15, 2008 at 7:12 PM #136775
CMcG
ParticipantBumping this, because I think the recent Zillow changes are worthy of discussion. I hope some of you guys do, too.
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January 15, 2008 at 7:12 PM #136816
CMcG
ParticipantBumping this, because I think the recent Zillow changes are worthy of discussion. I hope some of you guys do, too.
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January 15, 2008 at 9:31 PM #136560
PadreBrian
ParticipantHOW DARE THEY SAY MY HOUSE IS GOING DOWN IN VALUE! How dare they!
lol
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January 15, 2008 at 11:25 PM #136604
Ash Housewares
ParticipantLooks like the major changes include incorporating user edited data, and over 20x more models to choose from to suit a particular area.
Zestimates should also incorporate interest rates, but I don’t think they do.
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January 15, 2008 at 11:25 PM #136806
Ash Housewares
ParticipantLooks like the major changes include incorporating user edited data, and over 20x more models to choose from to suit a particular area.
Zestimates should also incorporate interest rates, but I don’t think they do.
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January 15, 2008 at 11:25 PM #136837
Ash Housewares
ParticipantLooks like the major changes include incorporating user edited data, and over 20x more models to choose from to suit a particular area.
Zestimates should also incorporate interest rates, but I don’t think they do.
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January 15, 2008 at 11:25 PM #136865
Ash Housewares
ParticipantLooks like the major changes include incorporating user edited data, and over 20x more models to choose from to suit a particular area.
Zestimates should also incorporate interest rates, but I don’t think they do.
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January 15, 2008 at 11:25 PM #136905
Ash Housewares
ParticipantLooks like the major changes include incorporating user edited data, and over 20x more models to choose from to suit a particular area.
Zestimates should also incorporate interest rates, but I don’t think they do.
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January 15, 2008 at 9:31 PM #136761
PadreBrian
ParticipantHOW DARE THEY SAY MY HOUSE IS GOING DOWN IN VALUE! How dare they!
lol
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January 15, 2008 at 9:31 PM #136792
PadreBrian
ParticipantHOW DARE THEY SAY MY HOUSE IS GOING DOWN IN VALUE! How dare they!
lol
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January 15, 2008 at 9:31 PM #136818
PadreBrian
ParticipantHOW DARE THEY SAY MY HOUSE IS GOING DOWN IN VALUE! How dare they!
lol
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January 15, 2008 at 9:31 PM #136861
PadreBrian
ParticipantHOW DARE THEY SAY MY HOUSE IS GOING DOWN IN VALUE! How dare they!
lol
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January 16, 2008 at 10:30 AM #136760
cr
ParticipantPadreBrian – That’s funny.
CMcG – Your persective is the right one. Unless you’re planning to sell your home and become rich rich rich! who cares (within reason) what the value does. As long as you can afford it, so what?
I’ll have to check out the people threatening to sue, though I’m sure Zillow is protected from that.
My guess is their Algorithm now reflects sales in the area below Zestimates. Someone on hear a while back commented that when a house sold for more then theirs the value would go up, but if a house sold for less it wouldn’t. If that changed it would certainly be the dose of reality people have ignored in this housing crash.
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January 16, 2008 at 11:46 AM #136769
donaldduckmoore
ParticipantI like to use Zillow because it always gives me accurate location of the house I am looking for. But I usually ignore the estimate they quote.
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January 19, 2008 at 1:38 PM #138796
denverite
ParticipantHaving been overseas 2005-2007, and now living in Denver, I have used several approaches to track SD and Ventura RE from afar. Here is my 2 cents.
realtor.com, ziprealty.com (# of listings within a given price range/area). I know they don’t provide all listings for the general public, but I think it’s the trend that counts. From what I can see, there has been about a doubling of the number of houses (600-900K range) on the market in the North County area since 9/07.
Zillow (valuations for 12 “Favorite Homes” are tracked over time. In absolute terms, this might not be all that useful, but I follow the peak/current price trend). I was wondering if you (as local observers) corroborate that Zillow relative valuation pretty much mirrors the situation on the ground, especially for a given property. Also, does anyone know how often Zillow (peridically) updates their zestimates.
Uhaul truck rental prices (to/from SD to various other parts of the country) – has been about 3.3:1 ratio to move out of SD (vs. move to) for the last 2 years. I guess if that ratio moves higher for a sustained period, it might be a somewhat useful indicator.
Well, maybe 1 cent worth.
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January 19, 2008 at 1:38 PM #139007
denverite
ParticipantHaving been overseas 2005-2007, and now living in Denver, I have used several approaches to track SD and Ventura RE from afar. Here is my 2 cents.
realtor.com, ziprealty.com (# of listings within a given price range/area). I know they don’t provide all listings for the general public, but I think it’s the trend that counts. From what I can see, there has been about a doubling of the number of houses (600-900K range) on the market in the North County area since 9/07.
Zillow (valuations for 12 “Favorite Homes” are tracked over time. In absolute terms, this might not be all that useful, but I follow the peak/current price trend). I was wondering if you (as local observers) corroborate that Zillow relative valuation pretty much mirrors the situation on the ground, especially for a given property. Also, does anyone know how often Zillow (peridically) updates their zestimates.
Uhaul truck rental prices (to/from SD to various other parts of the country) – has been about 3.3:1 ratio to move out of SD (vs. move to) for the last 2 years. I guess if that ratio moves higher for a sustained period, it might be a somewhat useful indicator.
Well, maybe 1 cent worth.
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January 19, 2008 at 1:38 PM #139031
denverite
ParticipantHaving been overseas 2005-2007, and now living in Denver, I have used several approaches to track SD and Ventura RE from afar. Here is my 2 cents.
realtor.com, ziprealty.com (# of listings within a given price range/area). I know they don’t provide all listings for the general public, but I think it’s the trend that counts. From what I can see, there has been about a doubling of the number of houses (600-900K range) on the market in the North County area since 9/07.
Zillow (valuations for 12 “Favorite Homes” are tracked over time. In absolute terms, this might not be all that useful, but I follow the peak/current price trend). I was wondering if you (as local observers) corroborate that Zillow relative valuation pretty much mirrors the situation on the ground, especially for a given property. Also, does anyone know how often Zillow (peridically) updates their zestimates.
Uhaul truck rental prices (to/from SD to various other parts of the country) – has been about 3.3:1 ratio to move out of SD (vs. move to) for the last 2 years. I guess if that ratio moves higher for a sustained period, it might be a somewhat useful indicator.
Well, maybe 1 cent worth.
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January 19, 2008 at 1:38 PM #139058
denverite
ParticipantHaving been overseas 2005-2007, and now living in Denver, I have used several approaches to track SD and Ventura RE from afar. Here is my 2 cents.
realtor.com, ziprealty.com (# of listings within a given price range/area). I know they don’t provide all listings for the general public, but I think it’s the trend that counts. From what I can see, there has been about a doubling of the number of houses (600-900K range) on the market in the North County area since 9/07.
Zillow (valuations for 12 “Favorite Homes” are tracked over time. In absolute terms, this might not be all that useful, but I follow the peak/current price trend). I was wondering if you (as local observers) corroborate that Zillow relative valuation pretty much mirrors the situation on the ground, especially for a given property. Also, does anyone know how often Zillow (peridically) updates their zestimates.
Uhaul truck rental prices (to/from SD to various other parts of the country) – has been about 3.3:1 ratio to move out of SD (vs. move to) for the last 2 years. I guess if that ratio moves higher for a sustained period, it might be a somewhat useful indicator.
Well, maybe 1 cent worth.
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January 19, 2008 at 1:38 PM #139104
denverite
ParticipantHaving been overseas 2005-2007, and now living in Denver, I have used several approaches to track SD and Ventura RE from afar. Here is my 2 cents.
realtor.com, ziprealty.com (# of listings within a given price range/area). I know they don’t provide all listings for the general public, but I think it’s the trend that counts. From what I can see, there has been about a doubling of the number of houses (600-900K range) on the market in the North County area since 9/07.
Zillow (valuations for 12 “Favorite Homes” are tracked over time. In absolute terms, this might not be all that useful, but I follow the peak/current price trend). I was wondering if you (as local observers) corroborate that Zillow relative valuation pretty much mirrors the situation on the ground, especially for a given property. Also, does anyone know how often Zillow (peridically) updates their zestimates.
Uhaul truck rental prices (to/from SD to various other parts of the country) – has been about 3.3:1 ratio to move out of SD (vs. move to) for the last 2 years. I guess if that ratio moves higher for a sustained period, it might be a somewhat useful indicator.
Well, maybe 1 cent worth.
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January 16, 2008 at 11:46 AM #136968
donaldduckmoore
ParticipantI like to use Zillow because it always gives me accurate location of the house I am looking for. But I usually ignore the estimate they quote.
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January 16, 2008 at 11:46 AM #137002
donaldduckmoore
ParticipantI like to use Zillow because it always gives me accurate location of the house I am looking for. But I usually ignore the estimate they quote.
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January 16, 2008 at 11:46 AM #137029
donaldduckmoore
ParticipantI like to use Zillow because it always gives me accurate location of the house I am looking for. But I usually ignore the estimate they quote.
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January 16, 2008 at 11:46 AM #137070
donaldduckmoore
ParticipantI like to use Zillow because it always gives me accurate location of the house I am looking for. But I usually ignore the estimate they quote.
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January 16, 2008 at 10:30 AM #136959
cr
ParticipantPadreBrian – That’s funny.
CMcG – Your persective is the right one. Unless you’re planning to sell your home and become rich rich rich! who cares (within reason) what the value does. As long as you can afford it, so what?
I’ll have to check out the people threatening to sue, though I’m sure Zillow is protected from that.
My guess is their Algorithm now reflects sales in the area below Zestimates. Someone on hear a while back commented that when a house sold for more then theirs the value would go up, but if a house sold for less it wouldn’t. If that changed it would certainly be the dose of reality people have ignored in this housing crash.
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January 16, 2008 at 10:30 AM #136992
cr
ParticipantPadreBrian – That’s funny.
CMcG – Your persective is the right one. Unless you’re planning to sell your home and become rich rich rich! who cares (within reason) what the value does. As long as you can afford it, so what?
I’ll have to check out the people threatening to sue, though I’m sure Zillow is protected from that.
My guess is their Algorithm now reflects sales in the area below Zestimates. Someone on hear a while back commented that when a house sold for more then theirs the value would go up, but if a house sold for less it wouldn’t. If that changed it would certainly be the dose of reality people have ignored in this housing crash.
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January 16, 2008 at 10:30 AM #137021
cr
ParticipantPadreBrian – That’s funny.
CMcG – Your persective is the right one. Unless you’re planning to sell your home and become rich rich rich! who cares (within reason) what the value does. As long as you can afford it, so what?
I’ll have to check out the people threatening to sue, though I’m sure Zillow is protected from that.
My guess is their Algorithm now reflects sales in the area below Zestimates. Someone on hear a while back commented that when a house sold for more then theirs the value would go up, but if a house sold for less it wouldn’t. If that changed it would certainly be the dose of reality people have ignored in this housing crash.
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January 16, 2008 at 10:30 AM #137060
cr
ParticipantPadreBrian – That’s funny.
CMcG – Your persective is the right one. Unless you’re planning to sell your home and become rich rich rich! who cares (within reason) what the value does. As long as you can afford it, so what?
I’ll have to check out the people threatening to sue, though I’m sure Zillow is protected from that.
My guess is their Algorithm now reflects sales in the area below Zestimates. Someone on hear a while back commented that when a house sold for more then theirs the value would go up, but if a house sold for less it wouldn’t. If that changed it would certainly be the dose of reality people have ignored in this housing crash.
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January 15, 2008 at 1:33 PM #136496
CMcG
Participantcooprider–
I did go over there and look at the discussion forums. You’re right — people are bitching like hell because the new algorhythm (sp?) the site has apparently begun using in recent weeks has not only widely changed values (some are way up, some are way down) but because Z apparently changed all the the Zestimate histories. I have to admit I am perplexed about why they did that. My own house value went down $50K practically overnight. I don’t care, because I am not selling…probably never will in my lifetime.
What’s a bit worrisome, though, is that some people are reporting that there are lenders refusing to talk to some people trying, for example, to refi and those lenders are basing that JUST on the Zillow estimate. There are people on there demanding (even threatening to sue) that their Zestimate be removed. They don’t care if the public info about the sales price is up there, but they want the Zestimate GONE. Zillow has responded to these people with a flat-out NO.
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January 15, 2008 at 1:33 PM #136531
CMcG
Participantcooprider–
I did go over there and look at the discussion forums. You’re right — people are bitching like hell because the new algorhythm (sp?) the site has apparently begun using in recent weeks has not only widely changed values (some are way up, some are way down) but because Z apparently changed all the the Zestimate histories. I have to admit I am perplexed about why they did that. My own house value went down $50K practically overnight. I don’t care, because I am not selling…probably never will in my lifetime.
What’s a bit worrisome, though, is that some people are reporting that there are lenders refusing to talk to some people trying, for example, to refi and those lenders are basing that JUST on the Zillow estimate. There are people on there demanding (even threatening to sue) that their Zestimate be removed. They don’t care if the public info about the sales price is up there, but they want the Zestimate GONE. Zillow has responded to these people with a flat-out NO.
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January 15, 2008 at 1:33 PM #136552
CMcG
Participantcooprider–
I did go over there and look at the discussion forums. You’re right — people are bitching like hell because the new algorhythm (sp?) the site has apparently begun using in recent weeks has not only widely changed values (some are way up, some are way down) but because Z apparently changed all the the Zestimate histories. I have to admit I am perplexed about why they did that. My own house value went down $50K practically overnight. I don’t care, because I am not selling…probably never will in my lifetime.
What’s a bit worrisome, though, is that some people are reporting that there are lenders refusing to talk to some people trying, for example, to refi and those lenders are basing that JUST on the Zillow estimate. There are people on there demanding (even threatening to sue) that their Zestimate be removed. They don’t care if the public info about the sales price is up there, but they want the Zestimate GONE. Zillow has responded to these people with a flat-out NO.
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January 15, 2008 at 1:33 PM #136595
CMcG
Participantcooprider–
I did go over there and look at the discussion forums. You’re right — people are bitching like hell because the new algorhythm (sp?) the site has apparently begun using in recent weeks has not only widely changed values (some are way up, some are way down) but because Z apparently changed all the the Zestimate histories. I have to admit I am perplexed about why they did that. My own house value went down $50K practically overnight. I don’t care, because I am not selling…probably never will in my lifetime.
What’s a bit worrisome, though, is that some people are reporting that there are lenders refusing to talk to some people trying, for example, to refi and those lenders are basing that JUST on the Zillow estimate. There are people on there demanding (even threatening to sue) that their Zestimate be removed. They don’t care if the public info about the sales price is up there, but they want the Zestimate GONE. Zillow has responded to these people with a flat-out NO.
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January 14, 2008 at 10:26 AM #135668
cr
ParticipantZillow has also become a place for home owners (money renters) to come and complain that the value of their home is too low.
Next time you’re on check out the discussions. There must be a thousand people on there who think their $500,000 2000 sq ft tract home is under valued because they just remodeled it (without permits) and put in SS appliances.
They are in for a treat once Zillow updates their formulas.
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January 14, 2008 at 10:26 AM #135671
cr
ParticipantZillow has also become a place for home owners (money renters) to come and complain that the value of their home is too low.
Next time you’re on check out the discussions. There must be a thousand people on there who think their $500,000 2000 sq ft tract home is under valued because they just remodeled it (without permits) and put in SS appliances.
They are in for a treat once Zillow updates their formulas.
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January 14, 2008 at 10:26 AM #135728
cr
ParticipantZillow has also become a place for home owners (money renters) to come and complain that the value of their home is too low.
Next time you’re on check out the discussions. There must be a thousand people on there who think their $500,000 2000 sq ft tract home is under valued because they just remodeled it (without permits) and put in SS appliances.
They are in for a treat once Zillow updates their formulas.
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January 14, 2008 at 10:26 AM #135769
cr
ParticipantZillow has also become a place for home owners (money renters) to come and complain that the value of their home is too low.
Next time you’re on check out the discussions. There must be a thousand people on there who think their $500,000 2000 sq ft tract home is under valued because they just remodeled it (without permits) and put in SS appliances.
They are in for a treat once Zillow updates their formulas.
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January 14, 2008 at 11:25 AM #135515
Eugene
ParticipantI know a guy who bought a house for 590k in ’06. Throughout most of ’07, zillow was showing that his house was worth more than he paid for it.
In the last month, zillow estimate dropped from 580k to 500k, and the entire graph was revised (so it does not even say any more that the house was worth 580k recently).
To paint a broader picture: his next-door neighbor sold his house (30% more footage) for 585k; and a house very much like his across the street was just listed for 460k; and there are a couple of SFR listings in the zip code for high 300’s.
I wonder if he thinks that zillow is too low.
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January 14, 2008 at 11:47 AM #135535
kev374
ParticipantZillow is nonsense. A friend’s condo in Vegas supposedly just went up in value 10% from last month’s update to this month when it is well known that the market is tanking there like no tommorow!
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January 14, 2008 at 11:52 AM #135550
jennyo
ParticipantZillow is in denial over the house we sold last September in Antioch. Prior to the sale, Zillow had the POS hovering in the $380K range. We originally listed it at $279K and ended up accepting an offer for $215K. The house recorded and now Zillow shows it as “recently sold” with the $215K sale price, but still values it at $310K. Its absolutely ridiculous. The house was only worth what someone was willing to pay for it…
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January 14, 2008 at 11:52 AM #135747
jennyo
ParticipantZillow is in denial over the house we sold last September in Antioch. Prior to the sale, Zillow had the POS hovering in the $380K range. We originally listed it at $279K and ended up accepting an offer for $215K. The house recorded and now Zillow shows it as “recently sold” with the $215K sale price, but still values it at $310K. Its absolutely ridiculous. The house was only worth what someone was willing to pay for it…
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January 14, 2008 at 11:52 AM #135751
jennyo
ParticipantZillow is in denial over the house we sold last September in Antioch. Prior to the sale, Zillow had the POS hovering in the $380K range. We originally listed it at $279K and ended up accepting an offer for $215K. The house recorded and now Zillow shows it as “recently sold” with the $215K sale price, but still values it at $310K. Its absolutely ridiculous. The house was only worth what someone was willing to pay for it…
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January 14, 2008 at 11:52 AM #135808
jennyo
ParticipantZillow is in denial over the house we sold last September in Antioch. Prior to the sale, Zillow had the POS hovering in the $380K range. We originally listed it at $279K and ended up accepting an offer for $215K. The house recorded and now Zillow shows it as “recently sold” with the $215K sale price, but still values it at $310K. Its absolutely ridiculous. The house was only worth what someone was willing to pay for it…
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January 14, 2008 at 11:52 AM #135849
jennyo
ParticipantZillow is in denial over the house we sold last September in Antioch. Prior to the sale, Zillow had the POS hovering in the $380K range. We originally listed it at $279K and ended up accepting an offer for $215K. The house recorded and now Zillow shows it as “recently sold” with the $215K sale price, but still values it at $310K. Its absolutely ridiculous. The house was only worth what someone was willing to pay for it…
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January 14, 2008 at 11:47 AM #135732
kev374
ParticipantZillow is nonsense. A friend’s condo in Vegas supposedly just went up in value 10% from last month’s update to this month when it is well known that the market is tanking there like no tommorow!
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January 14, 2008 at 11:47 AM #135736
kev374
ParticipantZillow is nonsense. A friend’s condo in Vegas supposedly just went up in value 10% from last month’s update to this month when it is well known that the market is tanking there like no tommorow!
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January 14, 2008 at 11:47 AM #135793
kev374
ParticipantZillow is nonsense. A friend’s condo in Vegas supposedly just went up in value 10% from last month’s update to this month when it is well known that the market is tanking there like no tommorow!
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January 14, 2008 at 11:47 AM #135833
kev374
ParticipantZillow is nonsense. A friend’s condo in Vegas supposedly just went up in value 10% from last month’s update to this month when it is well known that the market is tanking there like no tommorow!
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January 14, 2008 at 11:25 AM #135712
Eugene
ParticipantI know a guy who bought a house for 590k in ’06. Throughout most of ’07, zillow was showing that his house was worth more than he paid for it.
In the last month, zillow estimate dropped from 580k to 500k, and the entire graph was revised (so it does not even say any more that the house was worth 580k recently).
To paint a broader picture: his next-door neighbor sold his house (30% more footage) for 585k; and a house very much like his across the street was just listed for 460k; and there are a couple of SFR listings in the zip code for high 300’s.
I wonder if he thinks that zillow is too low.
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January 14, 2008 at 11:25 AM #135716
Eugene
ParticipantI know a guy who bought a house for 590k in ’06. Throughout most of ’07, zillow was showing that his house was worth more than he paid for it.
In the last month, zillow estimate dropped from 580k to 500k, and the entire graph was revised (so it does not even say any more that the house was worth 580k recently).
To paint a broader picture: his next-door neighbor sold his house (30% more footage) for 585k; and a house very much like his across the street was just listed for 460k; and there are a couple of SFR listings in the zip code for high 300’s.
I wonder if he thinks that zillow is too low.
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January 14, 2008 at 11:25 AM #135773
Eugene
ParticipantI know a guy who bought a house for 590k in ’06. Throughout most of ’07, zillow was showing that his house was worth more than he paid for it.
In the last month, zillow estimate dropped from 580k to 500k, and the entire graph was revised (so it does not even say any more that the house was worth 580k recently).
To paint a broader picture: his next-door neighbor sold his house (30% more footage) for 585k; and a house very much like his across the street was just listed for 460k; and there are a couple of SFR listings in the zip code for high 300’s.
I wonder if he thinks that zillow is too low.
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January 14, 2008 at 11:25 AM #135814
Eugene
ParticipantI know a guy who bought a house for 590k in ’06. Throughout most of ’07, zillow was showing that his house was worth more than he paid for it.
In the last month, zillow estimate dropped from 580k to 500k, and the entire graph was revised (so it does not even say any more that the house was worth 580k recently).
To paint a broader picture: his next-door neighbor sold his house (30% more footage) for 585k; and a house very much like his across the street was just listed for 460k; and there are a couple of SFR listings in the zip code for high 300’s.
I wonder if he thinks that zillow is too low.
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January 15, 2008 at 8:37 AM #136122
Raybyrnes
ParticipantI am hard pressed to see the critcism vented about zillow. For a company that is jsut a couple of years old I think that it is a phenomenal tool when used for research purposes. Additoinally as the sight coninues to gather transactional data it will get better at forecasting actual data.
Complaining about zillow is like complaining about computers during their infancy. Anyone think that zillow won’t provide reliable estimates that will threaten the appraisal industry 10 years from now.
Additonally it is FREE. Some people have to have something to complain about.
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January 15, 2008 at 12:39 PM #136260
Ren
ParticipantI think peoples’ issue with it is that it’s not just inaccurate, it’s wildly inaccurate – not just due to limited data, but to incorrect calculations. Maybe someone else knows more about that, I’d like to learn how it values properties.
A friend of mine has a house in Vista with a zestimate of $1.3m (and climbing, according to zillow), and he’d be lucky to get $1m for it today.
I don’t think it will ever threaten appraisers – it doesn’t store enough data about individual homes, and has no way of finding that information out without human intervention.
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January 15, 2008 at 1:10 PM #136270
cr
ParticipantI find it useful for finding what a certain house was purcahsed for, and to a degree tracking trends, but the latter cannot have even rough numbers attached to it.
I think it’s a great tool, but it will never be as accurate as an appraisal. I just get tired of people complaining that their home price is too low.
“The house was only worth what someone was willing to pay for it…”
Exactly.
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January 15, 2008 at 1:10 PM #136468
cr
ParticipantI find it useful for finding what a certain house was purcahsed for, and to a degree tracking trends, but the latter cannot have even rough numbers attached to it.
I think it’s a great tool, but it will never be as accurate as an appraisal. I just get tired of people complaining that their home price is too low.
“The house was only worth what someone was willing to pay for it…”
Exactly.
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January 15, 2008 at 1:10 PM #136505
cr
ParticipantI find it useful for finding what a certain house was purcahsed for, and to a degree tracking trends, but the latter cannot have even rough numbers attached to it.
I think it’s a great tool, but it will never be as accurate as an appraisal. I just get tired of people complaining that their home price is too low.
“The house was only worth what someone was willing to pay for it…”
Exactly.
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January 15, 2008 at 1:10 PM #136527
cr
ParticipantI find it useful for finding what a certain house was purcahsed for, and to a degree tracking trends, but the latter cannot have even rough numbers attached to it.
I think it’s a great tool, but it will never be as accurate as an appraisal. I just get tired of people complaining that their home price is too low.
“The house was only worth what someone was willing to pay for it…”
Exactly.
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January 15, 2008 at 1:10 PM #136568
cr
ParticipantI find it useful for finding what a certain house was purcahsed for, and to a degree tracking trends, but the latter cannot have even rough numbers attached to it.
I think it’s a great tool, but it will never be as accurate as an appraisal. I just get tired of people complaining that their home price is too low.
“The house was only worth what someone was willing to pay for it…”
Exactly.
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January 15, 2008 at 12:39 PM #136459
Ren
ParticipantI think peoples’ issue with it is that it’s not just inaccurate, it’s wildly inaccurate – not just due to limited data, but to incorrect calculations. Maybe someone else knows more about that, I’d like to learn how it values properties.
A friend of mine has a house in Vista with a zestimate of $1.3m (and climbing, according to zillow), and he’d be lucky to get $1m for it today.
I don’t think it will ever threaten appraisers – it doesn’t store enough data about individual homes, and has no way of finding that information out without human intervention.
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January 15, 2008 at 12:39 PM #136495
Ren
ParticipantI think peoples’ issue with it is that it’s not just inaccurate, it’s wildly inaccurate – not just due to limited data, but to incorrect calculations. Maybe someone else knows more about that, I’d like to learn how it values properties.
A friend of mine has a house in Vista with a zestimate of $1.3m (and climbing, according to zillow), and he’d be lucky to get $1m for it today.
I don’t think it will ever threaten appraisers – it doesn’t store enough data about individual homes, and has no way of finding that information out without human intervention.
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January 15, 2008 at 12:39 PM #136517
Ren
ParticipantI think peoples’ issue with it is that it’s not just inaccurate, it’s wildly inaccurate – not just due to limited data, but to incorrect calculations. Maybe someone else knows more about that, I’d like to learn how it values properties.
A friend of mine has a house in Vista with a zestimate of $1.3m (and climbing, according to zillow), and he’d be lucky to get $1m for it today.
I don’t think it will ever threaten appraisers – it doesn’t store enough data about individual homes, and has no way of finding that information out without human intervention.
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January 15, 2008 at 12:39 PM #136561
Ren
ParticipantI think peoples’ issue with it is that it’s not just inaccurate, it’s wildly inaccurate – not just due to limited data, but to incorrect calculations. Maybe someone else knows more about that, I’d like to learn how it values properties.
A friend of mine has a house in Vista with a zestimate of $1.3m (and climbing, according to zillow), and he’d be lucky to get $1m for it today.
I don’t think it will ever threaten appraisers – it doesn’t store enough data about individual homes, and has no way of finding that information out without human intervention.
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January 15, 2008 at 8:37 AM #136325
Raybyrnes
ParticipantI am hard pressed to see the critcism vented about zillow. For a company that is jsut a couple of years old I think that it is a phenomenal tool when used for research purposes. Additoinally as the sight coninues to gather transactional data it will get better at forecasting actual data.
Complaining about zillow is like complaining about computers during their infancy. Anyone think that zillow won’t provide reliable estimates that will threaten the appraisal industry 10 years from now.
Additonally it is FREE. Some people have to have something to complain about.
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January 15, 2008 at 8:37 AM #136359
Raybyrnes
ParticipantI am hard pressed to see the critcism vented about zillow. For a company that is jsut a couple of years old I think that it is a phenomenal tool when used for research purposes. Additoinally as the sight coninues to gather transactional data it will get better at forecasting actual data.
Complaining about zillow is like complaining about computers during their infancy. Anyone think that zillow won’t provide reliable estimates that will threaten the appraisal industry 10 years from now.
Additonally it is FREE. Some people have to have something to complain about.
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January 15, 2008 at 8:37 AM #136384
Raybyrnes
ParticipantI am hard pressed to see the critcism vented about zillow. For a company that is jsut a couple of years old I think that it is a phenomenal tool when used for research purposes. Additoinally as the sight coninues to gather transactional data it will get better at forecasting actual data.
Complaining about zillow is like complaining about computers during their infancy. Anyone think that zillow won’t provide reliable estimates that will threaten the appraisal industry 10 years from now.
Additonally it is FREE. Some people have to have something to complain about.
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January 15, 2008 at 8:37 AM #136426
Raybyrnes
ParticipantI am hard pressed to see the critcism vented about zillow. For a company that is jsut a couple of years old I think that it is a phenomenal tool when used for research purposes. Additoinally as the sight coninues to gather transactional data it will get better at forecasting actual data.
Complaining about zillow is like complaining about computers during their infancy. Anyone think that zillow won’t provide reliable estimates that will threaten the appraisal industry 10 years from now.
Additonally it is FREE. Some people have to have something to complain about.
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