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December 3, 2009 at 2:11 PM #16755December 3, 2009 at 3:02 PM #489921
UCGal
ParticipantI hear you. My employer has the crappiest slim selection of 401k choices possible. It totally sucks.
December 3, 2009 at 3:02 PM #490470UCGal
ParticipantI hear you. My employer has the crappiest slim selection of 401k choices possible. It totally sucks.
December 3, 2009 at 3:02 PM #490789UCGal
ParticipantI hear you. My employer has the crappiest slim selection of 401k choices possible. It totally sucks.
December 3, 2009 at 3:02 PM #490087UCGal
ParticipantI hear you. My employer has the crappiest slim selection of 401k choices possible. It totally sucks.
December 3, 2009 at 3:02 PM #490558UCGal
ParticipantI hear you. My employer has the crappiest slim selection of 401k choices possible. It totally sucks.
December 3, 2009 at 11:33 PM #490006HLS
ParticipantPerhaps it is because the entire 401K premise is a scam? A phony sense of security encouraged by the bandits in govt helped along by lobbyists for Wall Street.
Any idea how much is being raked off the top in management fees regardless of whether the investor ever makes a single penny ?
It’s a serious consideration to put after tax money where you want it rather than being told where to put your pre-tax dollars.
If your 401K money was invested in rental real estate after tax instead in the right areas, the depreciation might rival the lost money.
I’d say that most people really don’t realize how big of a ponzi scheme the stock market is, and have just been brainwashed to believe “diversify & you’re in it for the long run” Wonderful advice from investment “professionals”
December 3, 2009 at 11:33 PM #490874HLS
ParticipantPerhaps it is because the entire 401K premise is a scam? A phony sense of security encouraged by the bandits in govt helped along by lobbyists for Wall Street.
Any idea how much is being raked off the top in management fees regardless of whether the investor ever makes a single penny ?
It’s a serious consideration to put after tax money where you want it rather than being told where to put your pre-tax dollars.
If your 401K money was invested in rental real estate after tax instead in the right areas, the depreciation might rival the lost money.
I’d say that most people really don’t realize how big of a ponzi scheme the stock market is, and have just been brainwashed to believe “diversify & you’re in it for the long run” Wonderful advice from investment “professionals”
December 3, 2009 at 11:33 PM #490643HLS
ParticipantPerhaps it is because the entire 401K premise is a scam? A phony sense of security encouraged by the bandits in govt helped along by lobbyists for Wall Street.
Any idea how much is being raked off the top in management fees regardless of whether the investor ever makes a single penny ?
It’s a serious consideration to put after tax money where you want it rather than being told where to put your pre-tax dollars.
If your 401K money was invested in rental real estate after tax instead in the right areas, the depreciation might rival the lost money.
I’d say that most people really don’t realize how big of a ponzi scheme the stock market is, and have just been brainwashed to believe “diversify & you’re in it for the long run” Wonderful advice from investment “professionals”
December 3, 2009 at 11:33 PM #490555HLS
ParticipantPerhaps it is because the entire 401K premise is a scam? A phony sense of security encouraged by the bandits in govt helped along by lobbyists for Wall Street.
Any idea how much is being raked off the top in management fees regardless of whether the investor ever makes a single penny ?
It’s a serious consideration to put after tax money where you want it rather than being told where to put your pre-tax dollars.
If your 401K money was invested in rental real estate after tax instead in the right areas, the depreciation might rival the lost money.
I’d say that most people really don’t realize how big of a ponzi scheme the stock market is, and have just been brainwashed to believe “diversify & you’re in it for the long run” Wonderful advice from investment “professionals”
December 3, 2009 at 11:33 PM #490172HLS
ParticipantPerhaps it is because the entire 401K premise is a scam? A phony sense of security encouraged by the bandits in govt helped along by lobbyists for Wall Street.
Any idea how much is being raked off the top in management fees regardless of whether the investor ever makes a single penny ?
It’s a serious consideration to put after tax money where you want it rather than being told where to put your pre-tax dollars.
If your 401K money was invested in rental real estate after tax instead in the right areas, the depreciation might rival the lost money.
I’d say that most people really don’t realize how big of a ponzi scheme the stock market is, and have just been brainwashed to believe “diversify & you’re in it for the long run” Wonderful advice from investment “professionals”
December 4, 2009 at 8:00 AM #490899scaredyclassic
Participantwell, hold on. the concept I think is that you’re supposed to be protected from yourself, and to be gently guided into historically safe choices. Move with the herd, and you will probably be ok, the experts say. if the plans offered contrarian choices, or long shots, they might be open to lawsuits for offering crappy advice int he event the contrarian view didn’t pan out. I think it’s just one of those things where the plan, by its very nature, cannot be a free selection, because the plan organizer has a fiduciary duty to educate you and move you toward non-stupid decisions. the problem is, the herd could be running for a cliff.
December 4, 2009 at 8:00 AM #490197scaredyclassic
Participantwell, hold on. the concept I think is that you’re supposed to be protected from yourself, and to be gently guided into historically safe choices. Move with the herd, and you will probably be ok, the experts say. if the plans offered contrarian choices, or long shots, they might be open to lawsuits for offering crappy advice int he event the contrarian view didn’t pan out. I think it’s just one of those things where the plan, by its very nature, cannot be a free selection, because the plan organizer has a fiduciary duty to educate you and move you toward non-stupid decisions. the problem is, the herd could be running for a cliff.
December 4, 2009 at 8:00 AM #490580scaredyclassic
Participantwell, hold on. the concept I think is that you’re supposed to be protected from yourself, and to be gently guided into historically safe choices. Move with the herd, and you will probably be ok, the experts say. if the plans offered contrarian choices, or long shots, they might be open to lawsuits for offering crappy advice int he event the contrarian view didn’t pan out. I think it’s just one of those things where the plan, by its very nature, cannot be a free selection, because the plan organizer has a fiduciary duty to educate you and move you toward non-stupid decisions. the problem is, the herd could be running for a cliff.
December 4, 2009 at 8:00 AM #490668scaredyclassic
Participantwell, hold on. the concept I think is that you’re supposed to be protected from yourself, and to be gently guided into historically safe choices. Move with the herd, and you will probably be ok, the experts say. if the plans offered contrarian choices, or long shots, they might be open to lawsuits for offering crappy advice int he event the contrarian view didn’t pan out. I think it’s just one of those things where the plan, by its very nature, cannot be a free selection, because the plan organizer has a fiduciary duty to educate you and move you toward non-stupid decisions. the problem is, the herd could be running for a cliff.
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