Why I am leaving San Diego

[jstoesz]

First off, I apologize in committing a sort of thread carpet bomb. I have one week to go at my current employer, and I am less than motivated to give it my all. Furthermore, my wife went to bed at 8:30 so I am pretty much left to flame wars on the internet.

Lets engage in a thought exercise.

Disclamer: I am less interested in what the SD market will be and more interested in what it should be. I think in all reality, it will be screwed, where I will always be dissatisfied with what my household’s 95fth percentile income bracket should be able to afford vs. what it will afford.

If every family in SD conformed to the US standard of financial responsibility, where would home prices be? If San Diegons spent within there means in the same way that most midwesterners spent what would home prices be? Do utility bills and prop 13 make up for the prices?

That is the question. If this is out of step in SD, aren’t you nervous about the fiscal future of california?

Is the power of immigrating retirees, prop 13, and the beauty of La Jolla enough to justify the prices in a family oriented community like Clairemont (not a very nice place by midwest standards)?

This is the fact of life that someone from a backwoods unenlightened place like MN is up against. I could have a good, financially secure life, with lots and lots of recreation for an affordable price someplace else. And no jobs in CA do not pay more, this is an absurd fallacy.

Do immigrating retirees, the beach and weather (bullshit), and growth really explain the out of step prices? or is it that s. Californians are really that stupid/financially irresponsible to keep the scam going?

I am going with stupid and financially irresponsible…

[jstoesz]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=Rustico]

Could the real problem here be that your value set might be different than many of your SoCal “peers?”
[/quote]

My value set is different and that is the problem! Now will they ever align? Well, that is extremely doubtful. When we move back to this land of stupidity, I guess I will grin and bear it. Freak…

I hope CA gets some sense before it turns into Detroit…at least it has good weather.

[jstoesz]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=Rustico]

Could the real problem here be that your value set might be different than many of your SoCal “peers?”
[/quote]

My value set is different and that is the problem! Now will they ever align? Well, that is extremely doubtful. When we move back to this land of stupidity, I guess I will grin and bear it. Freak…

I hope CA gets some sense before it turns into Detroit…at least it has good weather.

[jstoesz]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=Rustico]

Could the real problem here be that your value set might be different than many of your SoCal “peers?”
[/quote]

My value set is different and that is the problem! Now will they ever align? Well, that is extremely doubtful. When we move back to this land of stupidity, I guess I will grin and bear it. Freak…

I hope CA gets some sense before it turns into Detroit…at least it has good weather.

[jstoesz]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=Rustico]

Could the real problem here be that your value set might be different than many of your SoCal “peers?”
[/quote]

My value set is different and that is the problem! Now will they ever align? Well, that is extremely doubtful. When we move back to this land of stupidity, I guess I will grin and bear it. Freak…

I hope CA gets some sense before it turns into Detroit…at least it has good weather.

[jstoesz]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=Rustico]

Could the real problem here be that your value set might be different than many of your SoCal “peers?”
[/quote]

My value set is different and that is the problem! Now will they ever align? Well, that is extremely doubtful. When we move back to this land of stupidity, I guess I will grin and bear it. Freak…

I hope CA gets some sense before it turns into Detroit…at least it has good weather.

[jstoesz]

bearishgurl,

I do not hold water for MN residents. To be honest I am always disappointed in their voting history! There is nothing like Jesse the body Ventura and Mark Dayton (a mentally unstable alcoholic) to make you disdain the people of MN. But in comparison, their losses in the housing market are minuscule to CA. MN’s are not without their faults, and I am quite sure you can find more responsible people elsewhere. But the home price in respect to household income is enviable by CA standards without a doubt. Their problems are significant, but in comparison to s. California they are saints.

[jstoesz]

bearishgurl,

I do not hold water for MN residents. To be honest I am always disappointed in their voting history! There is nothing like Jesse the body Ventura and Mark Dayton (a mentally unstable alcoholic) to make you disdain the people of MN. But in comparison, their losses in the housing market are minuscule to CA. MN’s are not without their faults, and I am quite sure you can find more responsible people elsewhere. But the home price in respect to household income is enviable by CA standards without a doubt. Their problems are significant, but in comparison to s. California they are saints.

[jstoesz]

bearishgurl,

I do not hold water for MN residents. To be honest I am always disappointed in their voting history! There is nothing like Jesse the body Ventura and Mark Dayton (a mentally unstable alcoholic) to make you disdain the people of MN. But in comparison, their losses in the housing market are minuscule to CA. MN’s are not without their faults, and I am quite sure you can find more responsible people elsewhere. But the home price in respect to household income is enviable by CA standards without a doubt. Their problems are significant, but in comparison to s. California they are saints.

[jstoesz]

bearishgurl,

I do not hold water for MN residents. To be honest I am always disappointed in their voting history! There is nothing like Jesse the body Ventura and Mark Dayton (a mentally unstable alcoholic) to make you disdain the people of MN. But in comparison, their losses in the housing market are minuscule to CA. MN’s are not without their faults, and I am quite sure you can find more responsible people elsewhere. But the home price in respect to household income is enviable by CA standards without a doubt. Their problems are significant, but in comparison to s. California they are saints.

[jstoesz]

bearishgurl,

I do not hold water for MN residents. To be honest I am always disappointed in their voting history! There is nothing like Jesse the body Ventura and Mark Dayton (a mentally unstable alcoholic) to make you disdain the people of MN. But in comparison, their losses in the housing market are minuscule to CA. MN’s are not without their faults, and I am quite sure you can find more responsible people elsewhere. But the home price in respect to household income is enviable by CA standards without a doubt. Their problems are significant, but in comparison to s. California they are saints.

[jstoesz]

*back to carpet bombing*

I love this city. It in most ways it is far superior to Minneapolis. I have visions of raising my kids competitively sailing in SD bay. Visions of teaching them to surf at pipes. I lived for two years on a boat off shelter Island which is one of the greatest experiences of my life. It is amazing! I would be hard pressed to find a more amazing city in the country. I love it here.

But the cost of living is prohibitive to a family oriented, single income earning, private school provided life style that I badly want to provide. Maybe I will strike it rich in my next company or the one after that.

I badly want to settle here. In many ways more than Minneapolis, but it is filled with fiscal retardation not found in most other places.

[jstoesz]

*back to carpet bombing*

I love this city. It in most ways it is far superior to Minneapolis. I have visions of raising my kids competitively sailing in SD bay. Visions of teaching them to surf at pipes. I lived for two years on a boat off shelter Island which is one of the greatest experiences of my life. It is amazing! I would be hard pressed to find a more amazing city in the country. I love it here.

But the cost of living is prohibitive to a family oriented, single income earning, private school provided life style that I badly want to provide. Maybe I will strike it rich in my next company or the one after that.

I badly want to settle here. In many ways more than Minneapolis, but it is filled with fiscal retardation not found in most other places.

[jstoesz]

*back to carpet bombing*

I love this city. It in most ways it is far superior to Minneapolis. I have visions of raising my kids competitively sailing in SD bay. Visions of teaching them to surf at pipes. I lived for two years on a boat off shelter Island which is one of the greatest experiences of my life. It is amazing! I would be hard pressed to find a more amazing city in the country. I love it here.

But the cost of living is prohibitive to a family oriented, single income earning, private school provided life style that I badly want to provide. Maybe I will strike it rich in my next company or the one after that.

I badly want to settle here. In many ways more than Minneapolis, but it is filled with fiscal retardation not found in most other places.

[jstoesz]

*back to carpet bombing*

I love this city. It in most ways it is far superior to Minneapolis. I have visions of raising my kids competitively sailing in SD bay. Visions of teaching them to surf at pipes. I lived for two years on a boat off shelter Island which is one of the greatest experiences of my life. It is amazing! I would be hard pressed to find a more amazing city in the country. I love it here.

But the cost of living is prohibitive to a family oriented, single income earning, private school provided life style that I badly want to provide. Maybe I will strike it rich in my next company or the one after that.

I badly want to settle here. In many ways more than Minneapolis, but it is filled with fiscal retardation not found in most other places.

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