Why I am leaving San Diego

[UCGal]

[quote=flu]jstoesz,

Good luck to ya. I think being that you have no family,etc entrenched down here, I think it’s positive that you can move around a bit…

I moved a bit around from L.A., tp N.Y to S.D. to Bay Area and back to S.D., only to wan to move back to the Bay Area eventually. I like to see the seasons change and be closer to the slopes during the winter.

Long, long term, Vancouver would be nice too :)[/quote]

I agree with this – before you have kids, you have freedom to move around, but post kids, it’s nice to have family around. Pre kids I left San Diego for B’ham WA, then Philly, then Atlanta, back to Philly,… had a kid, and moved “home” to where my parents and sister were. To handle the in-law issue we built a granny flat and moved them out here too.

Given my druthers – I agree that Vancouver is awesome. I used to go there a lot when I lived in Bellingham. I love that part of the world – even if they say “eh” too much and think Mazda is pronounced Maaahzda. (flat a like in cat.)

[Werewolf]

I have a lot of family in MN. A couple of observations

1) materialism is up in MN (BMW over Buicks) but it is still a lot lower than in CA
2) cost of living in MN is pretty high for the midwest (heating, taxes) so it’s not all roses
3) the twin cities has property that pencils (rent vs own). Wow, that’s novel compared to CA
4) don’t discount the natural beauty in MN (boundary waters, X-country skis in the winter)
5) the boy and toys boat / SUV culture is strong in MN

Placerville is an interesting choice. CA taxes but the mountain lifestyle

[Werewolf]

I have a lot of family in MN. A couple of observations

1) materialism is up in MN (BMW over Buicks) but it is still a lot lower than in CA
2) cost of living in MN is pretty high for the midwest (heating, taxes) so it’s not all roses
3) the twin cities has property that pencils (rent vs own). Wow, that’s novel compared to CA
4) don’t discount the natural beauty in MN (boundary waters, X-country skis in the winter)
5) the boy and toys boat / SUV culture is strong in MN

Placerville is an interesting choice. CA taxes but the mountain lifestyle

[Werewolf]

I have a lot of family in MN. A couple of observations

1) materialism is up in MN (BMW over Buicks) but it is still a lot lower than in CA
2) cost of living in MN is pretty high for the midwest (heating, taxes) so it’s not all roses
3) the twin cities has property that pencils (rent vs own). Wow, that’s novel compared to CA
4) don’t discount the natural beauty in MN (boundary waters, X-country skis in the winter)
5) the boy and toys boat / SUV culture is strong in MN

Placerville is an interesting choice. CA taxes but the mountain lifestyle

[Werewolf]

I have a lot of family in MN. A couple of observations

1) materialism is up in MN (BMW over Buicks) but it is still a lot lower than in CA
2) cost of living in MN is pretty high for the midwest (heating, taxes) so it’s not all roses
3) the twin cities has property that pencils (rent vs own). Wow, that’s novel compared to CA
4) don’t discount the natural beauty in MN (boundary waters, X-country skis in the winter)
5) the boy and toys boat / SUV culture is strong in MN

Placerville is an interesting choice. CA taxes but the mountain lifestyle

[Werewolf]

I have a lot of family in MN. A couple of observations

1) materialism is up in MN (BMW over Buicks) but it is still a lot lower than in CA
2) cost of living in MN is pretty high for the midwest (heating, taxes) so it’s not all roses
3) the twin cities has property that pencils (rent vs own). Wow, that’s novel compared to CA
4) don’t discount the natural beauty in MN (boundary waters, X-country skis in the winter)
5) the boy and toys boat / SUV culture is strong in MN

Placerville is an interesting choice. CA taxes but the mountain lifestyle

[Coronita]

[quote=UCGal][quote=flu]jstoesz,

Good luck to ya. I think being that you have no family,etc entrenched down here, I think it’s positive that you can move around a bit…

I moved a bit around from L.A., tp N.Y to S.D. to Bay Area and back to S.D., only to wan to move back to the Bay Area eventually. I like to see the seasons change and be closer to the slopes during the winter.

Long, long term, Vancouver would be nice too :)[/quote]

I agree with this – before you have kids, you have freedom to move around, but post kids, it’s nice to have family around. Pre kids I left San Diego for B’ham WA, then Philly, then Atlanta, back to Philly,… had a kid, and moved “home” to where my parents and sister were. To handle the in-law issue we built a granny flat and moved them out here too.

Given my druthers – I agree that Vancouver is awesome. I used to go there a lot when I lived in Bellingham. I love that part of the world – even if they say “eh” too much and think Mazda is pronounced Maaahzda. (flat a like in cat.)[/quote]

Crap.. I realized I’m keyboard challenged today….Now that you quoted me, I can’t be a revisionist and hide my errors 🙂

But jstoesz,

The other thing to think about is I think you need to find a place where you and other would love to live irrespective of affordability. Not narking on TX, but I couldn’t imagine myself living there, no matter how affordable housing would be to buy. I guess what I’m trying to say is. you don’t need to buy to enjoy where you live.

When I was up in the Bay Area, cost of living was much much more than in other parts of CA. But in general, I liked being up there, and rarely stayed home anyway. So I didn’t mind living in a hole in the wall place. The other thing is while I could say there are just as many wealthy people up there as probably down here, up there it’s not so much as outwardly per one’s image. The one big drawback about SoCal is it’s very well image conscience. You can’t get away from that. It’s probably not so much as so elsewhere, and not like that up in the Bay Area. L.A. is horrible in that regards, and it’s not necessarily that people are really wealthy there, people just like to keep up appearances…. Bay Area has their fare share of dot.com wealthy people, but quite often they just look like normal people on the street (some are slobby looking frankly)…But that’s kinda good in a certain way.

Seattle is a nice area too IF you don’t mind the rain.

[Coronita]

[quote=UCGal][quote=flu]jstoesz,

Good luck to ya. I think being that you have no family,etc entrenched down here, I think it’s positive that you can move around a bit…

I moved a bit around from L.A., tp N.Y to S.D. to Bay Area and back to S.D., only to wan to move back to the Bay Area eventually. I like to see the seasons change and be closer to the slopes during the winter.

Long, long term, Vancouver would be nice too :)[/quote]

I agree with this – before you have kids, you have freedom to move around, but post kids, it’s nice to have family around. Pre kids I left San Diego for B’ham WA, then Philly, then Atlanta, back to Philly,… had a kid, and moved “home” to where my parents and sister were. To handle the in-law issue we built a granny flat and moved them out here too.

Given my druthers – I agree that Vancouver is awesome. I used to go there a lot when I lived in Bellingham. I love that part of the world – even if they say “eh” too much and think Mazda is pronounced Maaahzda. (flat a like in cat.)[/quote]

Crap.. I realized I’m keyboard challenged today….Now that you quoted me, I can’t be a revisionist and hide my errors 🙂

But jstoesz,

The other thing to think about is I think you need to find a place where you and other would love to live irrespective of affordability. Not narking on TX, but I couldn’t imagine myself living there, no matter how affordable housing would be to buy. I guess what I’m trying to say is. you don’t need to buy to enjoy where you live.

When I was up in the Bay Area, cost of living was much much more than in other parts of CA. But in general, I liked being up there, and rarely stayed home anyway. So I didn’t mind living in a hole in the wall place. The other thing is while I could say there are just as many wealthy people up there as probably down here, up there it’s not so much as outwardly per one’s image. The one big drawback about SoCal is it’s very well image conscience. You can’t get away from that. It’s probably not so much as so elsewhere, and not like that up in the Bay Area. L.A. is horrible in that regards, and it’s not necessarily that people are really wealthy there, people just like to keep up appearances…. Bay Area has their fare share of dot.com wealthy people, but quite often they just look like normal people on the street (some are slobby looking frankly)…But that’s kinda good in a certain way.

Seattle is a nice area too IF you don’t mind the rain.

[Coronita]

[quote=UCGal][quote=flu]jstoesz,

Good luck to ya. I think being that you have no family,etc entrenched down here, I think it’s positive that you can move around a bit…

I moved a bit around from L.A., tp N.Y to S.D. to Bay Area and back to S.D., only to wan to move back to the Bay Area eventually. I like to see the seasons change and be closer to the slopes during the winter.

Long, long term, Vancouver would be nice too :)[/quote]

I agree with this – before you have kids, you have freedom to move around, but post kids, it’s nice to have family around. Pre kids I left San Diego for B’ham WA, then Philly, then Atlanta, back to Philly,… had a kid, and moved “home” to where my parents and sister were. To handle the in-law issue we built a granny flat and moved them out here too.

Given my druthers – I agree that Vancouver is awesome. I used to go there a lot when I lived in Bellingham. I love that part of the world – even if they say “eh” too much and think Mazda is pronounced Maaahzda. (flat a like in cat.)[/quote]

Crap.. I realized I’m keyboard challenged today….Now that you quoted me, I can’t be a revisionist and hide my errors 🙂

But jstoesz,

The other thing to think about is I think you need to find a place where you and other would love to live irrespective of affordability. Not narking on TX, but I couldn’t imagine myself living there, no matter how affordable housing would be to buy. I guess what I’m trying to say is. you don’t need to buy to enjoy where you live.

When I was up in the Bay Area, cost of living was much much more than in other parts of CA. But in general, I liked being up there, and rarely stayed home anyway. So I didn’t mind living in a hole in the wall place. The other thing is while I could say there are just as many wealthy people up there as probably down here, up there it’s not so much as outwardly per one’s image. The one big drawback about SoCal is it’s very well image conscience. You can’t get away from that. It’s probably not so much as so elsewhere, and not like that up in the Bay Area. L.A. is horrible in that regards, and it’s not necessarily that people are really wealthy there, people just like to keep up appearances…. Bay Area has their fare share of dot.com wealthy people, but quite often they just look like normal people on the street (some are slobby looking frankly)…But that’s kinda good in a certain way.

Seattle is a nice area too IF you don’t mind the rain.

[Coronita]

[quote=UCGal][quote=flu]jstoesz,

Good luck to ya. I think being that you have no family,etc entrenched down here, I think it’s positive that you can move around a bit…

I moved a bit around from L.A., tp N.Y to S.D. to Bay Area and back to S.D., only to wan to move back to the Bay Area eventually. I like to see the seasons change and be closer to the slopes during the winter.

Long, long term, Vancouver would be nice too :)[/quote]

I agree with this – before you have kids, you have freedom to move around, but post kids, it’s nice to have family around. Pre kids I left San Diego for B’ham WA, then Philly, then Atlanta, back to Philly,… had a kid, and moved “home” to where my parents and sister were. To handle the in-law issue we built a granny flat and moved them out here too.

Given my druthers – I agree that Vancouver is awesome. I used to go there a lot when I lived in Bellingham. I love that part of the world – even if they say “eh” too much and think Mazda is pronounced Maaahzda. (flat a like in cat.)[/quote]

Crap.. I realized I’m keyboard challenged today….Now that you quoted me, I can’t be a revisionist and hide my errors 🙂

But jstoesz,

The other thing to think about is I think you need to find a place where you and other would love to live irrespective of affordability. Not narking on TX, but I couldn’t imagine myself living there, no matter how affordable housing would be to buy. I guess what I’m trying to say is. you don’t need to buy to enjoy where you live.

When I was up in the Bay Area, cost of living was much much more than in other parts of CA. But in general, I liked being up there, and rarely stayed home anyway. So I didn’t mind living in a hole in the wall place. The other thing is while I could say there are just as many wealthy people up there as probably down here, up there it’s not so much as outwardly per one’s image. The one big drawback about SoCal is it’s very well image conscience. You can’t get away from that. It’s probably not so much as so elsewhere, and not like that up in the Bay Area. L.A. is horrible in that regards, and it’s not necessarily that people are really wealthy there, people just like to keep up appearances…. Bay Area has their fare share of dot.com wealthy people, but quite often they just look like normal people on the street (some are slobby looking frankly)…But that’s kinda good in a certain way.

Seattle is a nice area too IF you don’t mind the rain.

[Coronita]

[quote=UCGal][quote=flu]jstoesz,

Good luck to ya. I think being that you have no family,etc entrenched down here, I think it’s positive that you can move around a bit…

I moved a bit around from L.A., tp N.Y to S.D. to Bay Area and back to S.D., only to wan to move back to the Bay Area eventually. I like to see the seasons change and be closer to the slopes during the winter.

Long, long term, Vancouver would be nice too :)[/quote]

I agree with this – before you have kids, you have freedom to move around, but post kids, it’s nice to have family around. Pre kids I left San Diego for B’ham WA, then Philly, then Atlanta, back to Philly,… had a kid, and moved “home” to where my parents and sister were. To handle the in-law issue we built a granny flat and moved them out here too.

Given my druthers – I agree that Vancouver is awesome. I used to go there a lot when I lived in Bellingham. I love that part of the world – even if they say “eh” too much and think Mazda is pronounced Maaahzda. (flat a like in cat.)[/quote]

Crap.. I realized I’m keyboard challenged today….Now that you quoted me, I can’t be a revisionist and hide my errors 🙂

But jstoesz,

The other thing to think about is I think you need to find a place where you and other would love to live irrespective of affordability. Not narking on TX, but I couldn’t imagine myself living there, no matter how affordable housing would be to buy. I guess what I’m trying to say is. you don’t need to buy to enjoy where you live.

When I was up in the Bay Area, cost of living was much much more than in other parts of CA. But in general, I liked being up there, and rarely stayed home anyway. So I didn’t mind living in a hole in the wall place. The other thing is while I could say there are just as many wealthy people up there as probably down here, up there it’s not so much as outwardly per one’s image. The one big drawback about SoCal is it’s very well image conscience. You can’t get away from that. It’s probably not so much as so elsewhere, and not like that up in the Bay Area. L.A. is horrible in that regards, and it’s not necessarily that people are really wealthy there, people just like to keep up appearances…. Bay Area has their fare share of dot.com wealthy people, but quite often they just look like normal people on the street (some are slobby looking frankly)…But that’s kinda good in a certain way.

Seattle is a nice area too IF you don’t mind the rain.

[NotCranky]

Anything remotely like a tract home is not good enough…you just expect to live better than the 3rd world is all. Explicame… an engineer,who doesn’t care about cars and clothes, with a wife making a lot more than an engineer, willing to buy a fixer , could have it pretty good in San Diego. Rationale doesn’t make sense to me. You could live in a lot of places that are walkable, not “track home hell”, and pay for private school.What do you do with that engineering salary plus another salary that is a lot more than an engineering salary?

[NotCranky]

Anything remotely like a tract home is not good enough…you just expect to live better than the 3rd world is all. Explicame… an engineer,who doesn’t care about cars and clothes, with a wife making a lot more than an engineer, willing to buy a fixer , could have it pretty good in San Diego. Rationale doesn’t make sense to me. You could live in a lot of places that are walkable, not “track home hell”, and pay for private school.What do you do with that engineering salary plus another salary that is a lot more than an engineering salary?

[NotCranky]

Anything remotely like a tract home is not good enough…you just expect to live better than the 3rd world is all. Explicame… an engineer,who doesn’t care about cars and clothes, with a wife making a lot more than an engineer, willing to buy a fixer , could have it pretty good in San Diego. Rationale doesn’t make sense to me. You could live in a lot of places that are walkable, not “track home hell”, and pay for private school.What do you do with that engineering salary plus another salary that is a lot more than an engineering salary?

[NotCranky]

Anything remotely like a tract home is not good enough…you just expect to live better than the 3rd world is all. Explicame… an engineer,who doesn’t care about cars and clothes, with a wife making a lot more than an engineer, willing to buy a fixer , could have it pretty good in San Diego. Rationale doesn’t make sense to me. You could live in a lot of places that are walkable, not “track home hell”, and pay for private school.What do you do with that engineering salary plus another salary that is a lot more than an engineering salary?

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