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October 3, 2015 at 2:21 AM #789826October 3, 2015 at 2:00 PM #789841
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Participantsometimes Donald Trump may be over the top and one gets a little nervous about the way he presents himself BUT it’s not like we have any better alternatives… are any of the others doing any better of a job?? No.
So, we have absolutely NOTHING TO LOSE by giving this man a chance, he’s different – does not have a political background and perhaps we could see if a businessman can turn things around. The other candidates out there are going to screw everything up anyway so why not give Trump a chance.
One thing about Trump that I like is that people dislike him, yes, that is what I like about him because all the other lying, cheating, deceiving politicians hoodwink the public into liking them by saying what people want to hear. All of these politicians are expert liars. Donald Trump at least says what is on his mind without caring to be “politically correct”.
October 4, 2015 at 4:05 AM #789861spdrun
ParticipantAlternatives? Sanders. Also not in the pocket of Wall St scum.
October 4, 2015 at 8:54 AM #789870CA renter
Participant[quote=spdrun]Alternatives? Sanders. Also not in the pocket of Wall St scum.[/quote]
+1, spdrun.
Bernie Sanders is the most ethical candidate running for president, IMHO. His record speaks for itself.
If you doubt that he is anti-establishment, ask yourself why the mainstream media has done everything to ignore him even though he’s attracting the largest crowds, by far, of any candidate from any party; has the greatest number of volunteers; the greatest number of small-dollar donors; and has the most enthusiastic and energized supporters of all the candidates…and it is all totally grassroots. Also ask why the ONE TV personality who gave him any airtime (Ed Schultz) was pulled off the air shortly after Bernie agreed to run for president.
The DNC has even structured the debates to favor Hillary and give Bernie as little exposure as possible. He is absolutely not part of the establishment.
He doesn’t take money from Super PACs and is pushing to get money out of politics. He’s one of the poorest politicians in congress — no fraud.
Talk to people from Vermont…you’ll never hear a more enthusiastic and devoted group of people talk about a politician. Vermonters absolutely LOVE Bernie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7L9V7oGRv8
Here he is taking on Alan Greenspan:
Bernie on the war in Iraq (he voted against it from day one):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p35NmUnMsY
His position on the bank bailouts and the financial deregulation that caused the credit bubble and ensuing financial crisis.
His voting record:
https://votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/27110/bernie-sanders#.VhFJVyvWjfY
October 5, 2015 at 1:36 PM #789909FlyerInHi
GuestDo Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump support transpacific trade partnership? I support. I don’t want us to become isolationist.
October 6, 2015 at 8:36 AM #789930Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]Do Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump support transpacific trade partnership? I support. I don’t want us to become isolationist.[/quote]
Don’t know about Trump’s position, but Bernie Sanders is opposed to the TPP. He’s opposed to forcing workers to race to the bottom. He wants workers to be able to make a decent, respectable living.
October 9, 2015 at 9:12 PM #790102ParticipantPure consistency, dedication, and integrity…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxRCnwqUrc8&feature=youtu.be
October 13, 2015 at 10:18 PM #790199utcsox
ParticipantBump. David Brook, Op-Ed Columnist of the NY Times is fed up with the GOP and Trump.
October 14, 2015 at 9:58 AM #790204Guest[quote=utcsox]Bump. David Brook, Op-Ed Columnist of the NY Times is fed up with the GOP and Trump.
[/quote]Interesting article. Here, I pretty much agree with David Brooks, who I mostly find reasonable but sometimes transparently partisan. He’s on PBS Newhour every Friday. His counterpart, Mark Shields is more intellectually honest.
Brooks is right that traditional conservatism was somewhat dull, elitist, and country club. Very good at institutional preservation and building.
Today, conservatives are trash-talkers, enraged, revolutionary pitchfork peasants with no manners, contemptuous of education and reason. They talk traditional marriage but very few have well-adjusted, wholesome relationships.
October 14, 2015 at 3:02 PM #790207PCinSD
Guest[quote=FlyerInHi]
Today, conservatives are trash-talkers, enraged, revolutionary pitchfork peasants with no manners, contemptuous of education and reason. They talk traditional marriage but very few have well-adjusted, wholesome relationships.[/quote]
Huh.
Then judging by you, todays progressives are pathetic, self-loathing homosexuals, who lie about who they are, where they live, so they can continue to troll on a website where they have been banned for posting the bullshit you just posted. Am I right?
October 14, 2015 at 3:37 PM #790208GuestPCinSD, you have to read what I said in the context of the Brooks op-ed which I commented on.
October 14, 2015 at 3:47 PM #790209flyer
ParticipantFunny, but we don’t know any of the type of people about whom the right or the left generalize. Perhaps people need to expand their network of friends and acquaintances in order to better perceive reality.
October 14, 2015 at 3:53 PM #790210Guest[quote=FlyerInHi]PCinSD, you have to read what I said in the context of the Brooks op-ed which I commented on.[/quote]
I did. But this is just more of the same from you. You’re just trying to be more stealthy about it. You weren’t quoting the op-ed. You are simply parroting the same bullshit you always have.
October 14, 2015 at 4:13 PM #790211GuestFlyer, I’m sure that that people in Rancho Santa Fe or La Jolla are quite different from people in Lakeside or Jamul. By sheer numbers, the demographics speak from themselves.
David Brooks touched on a very interesting point. It took courage for him to write this piece. And he must be worried about his party to air out the dirty laundry for all to see.
Conservatives that I knew when I was growing up were upstanding people who always behaved well. Their personal lives may not have been the greatest but they made sacrifices for family and children and reputation. They would never have considered a rude loudmouth drug addict Rush Limbaugh one of their own.
Now, in conservative areas, divorce is endemic, as are children born out of wedlock; substance abuse is rampant, etc… Again, the demographic stats bear this out.
October 14, 2015 at 4:28 PM #790212ParticipantI haven’t fact checked this, but I would imagine the demo stats for liberals, and for everyone in between, if carefully examined, would reveal more of the same with regard to divorce, substance abuse, etc.
Personally, from reading many financial stats, I think much of the population in this country, right or left, should be far more concerned about what those stats reveal when it comes to long-term financial survival for themselves and their families. That’s just my opinion.
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