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August 9, 2015 at 9:40 PM #788559August 10, 2015 at 1:19 AM #788561
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ParticipantMaybe Trump is putting on an act for the Republican Party. Part of a larger plan?
August 10, 2015 at 6:40 AM #788562SK in CV
Participant[quote=paramount]Maybe Trump is putting on an act for the Republican Party. Part of a larger plan?[/quote]
Yep. First guy out of the clown car.
August 10, 2015 at 11:57 AM #788569urbanrealtor
Participant[quote=SK in CV][quote=paramount]Maybe Trump is putting on an act for the Republican Party. Part of a larger plan?[/quote]
Yep. First guy out of the clown car.[/quote]
I so very much want this to be true
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ed-klein-bill-clinton-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/2015/08/09/id/669253/August 10, 2015 at 12:02 PM #788570ParticipantAlso, there is this:
August 10, 2015 at 2:09 PM #788572La Jolla Renter
ParticipantUrbanrealtor, a little bit of both.
August 10, 2015 at 3:42 PM #788573XBoxBoy
Participant[quote=urbanrealtor]
I so very much want this to be true
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ed-klein-bill-clinton-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/2015/08/09/id/669253/%5B/quote%5DWhether or not Bill Clinton had the foresight to see what Trump would do to the Republicans, you have to admit that this is huge plus for Hillary. The more disarray there is in Republican ranks, the more the candidates must move to the right to gain the support of the conservative base. That allows Hillary to move to the center which makes her position that much stronger.
And at this point the Republicans have a very difficult position. It’s unlikely that Donald Trump will drop from the race gracefully, which means he either gets the nomination or splits the party. Either case is a big win for the Democrats.
August 10, 2015 at 4:04 PM #788574poorgradstudent
Participant[quote=XBoxBoy][quote=urbanrealtor]
I so very much want this to be true
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ed-klein-bill-clinton-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/2015/08/09/id/669253/%5B/quote%5DWhether or not Bill Clinton had the foresight to see what Trump would do to the Republicans, you have to admit that this is huge plus for Hillary. The more disarray there is in Republican ranks, the more the candidates must move to the right to gain the support of the conservative base. That allows Hillary to move to the center which makes her position that much stronger.
And at this point the Republicans have a very difficult position. It’s unlikely that Donald Trump will drop from the race gracefully, which means he either gets the nomination or splits the party. Either case is a big win for the Democrats.[/quote]
It also disrupts the Anti-Hillary narrative that I’m sure the RNC wanted to dominate the news cycle at this point. Meanwhile, you’ve got Bernie Sanders running around making Hillary look more moderate by comparison. Maybe the Clintons really are that crafty?
August 10, 2015 at 6:29 PM #788575Participant[quote=paramount]Maybe Trump is putting on an act for the Republican Party. Part of a larger plan?[/quote]
For himself? or for the RNC?
[Cynically]… If the RNC (and DNC for that matter) were that smart, they would just find/groom better candidates. Instead, they just slap more lipstick on their flim-flam politcal pigs, drink a few more double lattes and start believing there own bull shit.
August 10, 2015 at 6:53 PM #788576scaredyclassic
Participant[quote=XBoxBoy][quote=urbanrealtor]
I so very much want this to be true
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ed-klein-bill-clinton-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/2015/08/09/id/669253/%5B/quote%5DWhether or not Bill Clinton had the foresight to see what Trump would do to the Republicans, you have to admit that this is huge plus for Hillary. The more disarray there is in Republican ranks, the more the candidates must move to the right to gain the support of the conservative base. That allows Hillary to move to the center which makes her position that much stronger.
And at this point the Republicans have a very difficult position. It’s unlikely that Donald Trump will drop from the race gracefully, which means he either gets the nomination or splits the party. Either case is a big win for the Democrats.[/quote]
Unless…trump wins…and I bet it’d be close v hillary
August 10, 2015 at 8:13 PM #788577ParticipantThe powers that be that control Fox have it in for Trump, and Megan Kelly was their latest useful idiot.
August 10, 2015 at 8:38 PM #788578moneymaker
ParticipantMegyn Kelly is a fox and I hope Trump’s next ex moves here to San Diego, maybe it will increase real estate values.
August 10, 2015 at 10:21 PM #788579Participant[quote=XBoxBoy][quote=urbanrealtor]
I so very much want this to be true
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ed-klein-bill-clinton-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/2015/08/09/id/669253/%5B/quote%5DWhether or not Bill Clinton had the foresight to see what Trump would do to the Republicans, you have to admit that this is huge plus for Hillary. The more disarray there is in Republican ranks, the more the candidates must move to the right to gain the support of the conservative base. That allows Hillary to move to the center which makes her position that much stronger.
And at this point the Republicans have a very difficult position. It’s unlikely that Donald Trump will drop from the race gracefully, which means he either gets the nomination or splits the party. Either case is a big win for the Democrats.[/quote]
I don’t see the big win you see. The Clinton’s will under estimate Trump just like the Republicans did.
August 10, 2015 at 10:44 PM #788580ParticipantThis is a great video. Say what you want about Alex Jones, but he often gets it right:
As the World Burns: Megyn/Trump:
August 10, 2015 at 11:24 PM #788581ParticipantAs a liberal, I find this post weird.
It has me:
-Agreeing with xboxboy
-Arguing that Donald Trump is both relevant and important
-Pointing out the intelligence of Fox News
-Pointing out how sneaky and conniving the Democrats can beUgh
Xboxboy is right that it is a big win for house Clinton.
The strength of Obama was not his leanings (liberal) or vision (big).
It was his discipline (in both message and in tone).
Note:
This has, at times, served him badly in that lots of people distrust how much he masks his true emotions.
Consider the absurdity that so many reactionary conservatives constantly question his honesty even though there have been no verifiable integrity issues raised of a professional (eg WMD’S) or personal (eg Lewinsky) nature.Trump is highly relevant in that he really epitomizes the emotion and anger that Obama never is willing to show.
Fox news is brilliant in that is serves the mission of pointing out policy differences in a condescending way (same as MSNBC but better) that makes liberals seem dumb.
The Clintons are goddamn brilliant (and kinda evil) because they have turned this into an epic polemic of a dumb and angry conservative versus sober and intelligent liberal.
I think all would agree those associations don’t always go together. People like Howard Dean (reactionary and liberal) and Bill Krystol (intelligent and a rabid neo-con) really prove how muddy it gets.
When Jeb gets up to bat (which I think is inevitable) he will spend his time shoring up annoyed intelligent moderates who were thinking of voting Libertarian or (gasp) democrat instead of running a campaign. Hillary will already have the country discussing free college and public daycare and looking presidential while Jeb is trying to hire an education liaison.
I am honestly astounded by the evil brilliance.
Still not sure she will win.
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