WAY Off Topic: iPhones

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http://www.cringely.com/2010/05/death-by-foxconn/

What we do know is the annual suicide rate per 100,000 people in China is about 13.5, with slightly more women than men taking their own lives (the only major country where that is the case, by the way). That means the Foxconn factory, with 300,000 workers, ought to be experiencing almost 40 suicides per year, while the reported numbers are a lot less than that.

This story says more about the press than it does about Foxconn, because I’ve read about it for months and nobody else seems to have done the math, which isn’t hard to do. But doing the math makes the story weaker, so of course it isn’t mentioned.

Foxconn may be Hell for all I know, but it doesn’t appear to be killing people.

[meadandale]

[quote=afx114]Well, it still works. Just a little slow, as to be expected. You certainly had the option to not install it. I know that I personally research any new software that is “pushed” to me before installing it because I like to know what’s being installed on my devices.[/quote]

It’s not a little slow. It’s a lot slow. It’s like running Windows XP on a pentium II with 64MB of ram.

[meadandale]

[quote=afx114]Well, it still works. Just a little slow, as to be expected. You certainly had the option to not install it. I know that I personally research any new software that is “pushed” to me before installing it because I like to know what’s being installed on my devices.[/quote]

It’s not a little slow. It’s a lot slow. It’s like running Windows XP on a pentium II with 64MB of ram.

[meadandale]

[quote=afx114]Well, it still works. Just a little slow, as to be expected. You certainly had the option to not install it. I know that I personally research any new software that is “pushed” to me before installing it because I like to know what’s being installed on my devices.[/quote]

It’s not a little slow. It’s a lot slow. It’s like running Windows XP on a pentium II with 64MB of ram.

[meadandale]

[quote=afx114]Well, it still works. Just a little slow, as to be expected. You certainly had the option to not install it. I know that I personally research any new software that is “pushed” to me before installing it because I like to know what’s being installed on my devices.[/quote]

It’s not a little slow. It’s a lot slow. It’s like running Windows XP on a pentium II with 64MB of ram.

[meadandale]

[quote=afx114]Well, it still works. Just a little slow, as to be expected. You certainly had the option to not install it. I know that I personally research any new software that is “pushed” to me before installing it because I like to know what’s being installed on my devices.[/quote]

It’s not a little slow. It’s a lot slow. It’s like running Windows XP on a pentium II with 64MB of ram.

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[quote=meadandale]It’s not a little slow. It’s a lot slow. It’s like running Windows XP on a pentium II with 64MB of ram.[/quote]

Have you updated to 4.0.1? It seemed to speed things up for me. Also do a hard-reset to clear your cache and tmp files. Hold down Home + Power simultaneously for about 6 seconds (ignore “Slide to power off”) until you see the silver Apple logo then release the buttons.

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[quote=meadandale]It’s not a little slow. It’s a lot slow. It’s like running Windows XP on a pentium II with 64MB of ram.[/quote]

Have you updated to 4.0.1? It seemed to speed things up for me. Also do a hard-reset to clear your cache and tmp files. Hold down Home + Power simultaneously for about 6 seconds (ignore “Slide to power off”) until you see the silver Apple logo then release the buttons.

[afx114]

[quote=meadandale]It’s not a little slow. It’s a lot slow. It’s like running Windows XP on a pentium II with 64MB of ram.[/quote]

Have you updated to 4.0.1? It seemed to speed things up for me. Also do a hard-reset to clear your cache and tmp files. Hold down Home + Power simultaneously for about 6 seconds (ignore “Slide to power off”) until you see the silver Apple logo then release the buttons.

[afx114]

[quote=meadandale]It’s not a little slow. It’s a lot slow. It’s like running Windows XP on a pentium II with 64MB of ram.[/quote]

Have you updated to 4.0.1? It seemed to speed things up for me. Also do a hard-reset to clear your cache and tmp files. Hold down Home + Power simultaneously for about 6 seconds (ignore “Slide to power off”) until you see the silver Apple logo then release the buttons.

[afx114]

[quote=meadandale]It’s not a little slow. It’s a lot slow. It’s like running Windows XP on a pentium II with 64MB of ram.[/quote]

Have you updated to 4.0.1? It seemed to speed things up for me. Also do a hard-reset to clear your cache and tmp files. Hold down Home + Power simultaneously for about 6 seconds (ignore “Slide to power off”) until you see the silver Apple logo then release the buttons.

[PKMAN]

[quote=flu]
Those shop are contract for hire. So it depends on who the ultimate driver of the schedule is. And sorry, several of the other major players do not contract with the same company.

HTC phones are built in taiwan. Samsung has their own facility as well.

Apple is a one big monopoly bully…period…[/quote]
So what you’re saying is that when Foxconn is making Apple’s products, workers are miserable and they jump. When making other people’s products, workers are happy and not jumping? Do you know for a fact that all suicides resulted from workers that were making exclusively Apple’s products at that time?

HTC is an engineering/branding company, much like Apple. They contract manufacturing to OEM makers, including Foxconn, but not exclusively. This is a common practice in the CE world. Not too many companies put all their eggs into one basket by signing exclusive contract-manufacturing deal with just one OEM maker. Apple too, has OEM deals with other companies, so it’s unfair to these other OEM makers when you generalize by saying that Apple makes workers jump out of building.

By the way, while HTC is a Taiwanese company, its phone are made in both Taiwan and China, not exclusively Taiwan.

Samsung does have its own facilities worldwide but they too, have OEM deals.

Apple may be a bully but how is it a monopoly? Is it their fault that competitors’ products are just not as attractive, appealing and/or user-friendly? Do you not have a choice on mp3 player, desktop, laptop and smartphone?

[PKMAN]

[quote=flu]
Those shop are contract for hire. So it depends on who the ultimate driver of the schedule is. And sorry, several of the other major players do not contract with the same company.

HTC phones are built in taiwan. Samsung has their own facility as well.

Apple is a one big monopoly bully…period…[/quote]
So what you’re saying is that when Foxconn is making Apple’s products, workers are miserable and they jump. When making other people’s products, workers are happy and not jumping? Do you know for a fact that all suicides resulted from workers that were making exclusively Apple’s products at that time?

HTC is an engineering/branding company, much like Apple. They contract manufacturing to OEM makers, including Foxconn, but not exclusively. This is a common practice in the CE world. Not too many companies put all their eggs into one basket by signing exclusive contract-manufacturing deal with just one OEM maker. Apple too, has OEM deals with other companies, so it’s unfair to these other OEM makers when you generalize by saying that Apple makes workers jump out of building.

By the way, while HTC is a Taiwanese company, its phone are made in both Taiwan and China, not exclusively Taiwan.

Samsung does have its own facilities worldwide but they too, have OEM deals.

Apple may be a bully but how is it a monopoly? Is it their fault that competitors’ products are just not as attractive, appealing and/or user-friendly? Do you not have a choice on mp3 player, desktop, laptop and smartphone?

[PKMAN]

[quote=flu]
Those shop are contract for hire. So it depends on who the ultimate driver of the schedule is. And sorry, several of the other major players do not contract with the same company.

HTC phones are built in taiwan. Samsung has their own facility as well.

Apple is a one big monopoly bully…period…[/quote]
So what you’re saying is that when Foxconn is making Apple’s products, workers are miserable and they jump. When making other people’s products, workers are happy and not jumping? Do you know for a fact that all suicides resulted from workers that were making exclusively Apple’s products at that time?

HTC is an engineering/branding company, much like Apple. They contract manufacturing to OEM makers, including Foxconn, but not exclusively. This is a common practice in the CE world. Not too many companies put all their eggs into one basket by signing exclusive contract-manufacturing deal with just one OEM maker. Apple too, has OEM deals with other companies, so it’s unfair to these other OEM makers when you generalize by saying that Apple makes workers jump out of building.

By the way, while HTC is a Taiwanese company, its phone are made in both Taiwan and China, not exclusively Taiwan.

Samsung does have its own facilities worldwide but they too, have OEM deals.

Apple may be a bully but how is it a monopoly? Is it their fault that competitors’ products are just not as attractive, appealing and/or user-friendly? Do you not have a choice on mp3 player, desktop, laptop and smartphone?

[PKMAN]

[quote=flu]
Those shop are contract for hire. So it depends on who the ultimate driver of the schedule is. And sorry, several of the other major players do not contract with the same company.

HTC phones are built in taiwan. Samsung has their own facility as well.

Apple is a one big monopoly bully…period…[/quote]
So what you’re saying is that when Foxconn is making Apple’s products, workers are miserable and they jump. When making other people’s products, workers are happy and not jumping? Do you know for a fact that all suicides resulted from workers that were making exclusively Apple’s products at that time?

HTC is an engineering/branding company, much like Apple. They contract manufacturing to OEM makers, including Foxconn, but not exclusively. This is a common practice in the CE world. Not too many companies put all their eggs into one basket by signing exclusive contract-manufacturing deal with just one OEM maker. Apple too, has OEM deals with other companies, so it’s unfair to these other OEM makers when you generalize by saying that Apple makes workers jump out of building.

By the way, while HTC is a Taiwanese company, its phone are made in both Taiwan and China, not exclusively Taiwan.

Samsung does have its own facilities worldwide but they too, have OEM deals.

Apple may be a bully but how is it a monopoly? Is it their fault that competitors’ products are just not as attractive, appealing and/or user-friendly? Do you not have a choice on mp3 player, desktop, laptop and smartphone?

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