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August 30, 2006 at 11:00 AM #33981August 30, 2006 at 11:00 AM #33982zkParticipant
“In defense of powayseller, selling one’s own property is different than selling properties for a living.”
That may be true in general, but for the purposes of this discussion, it’s the same thing. To illustrate why, I’ll use PS’ own words:
“I would feel like each deal someone is losing money for my gain. I could never do it.”Sure, the subject she’s talking about is being a realtor, but that sentiment is the crux of her argument. And, if she felt like she couldn’t do a deal where someone is losing money for her gain, then how does she justify selling her house? Did she tell the buyer, “in a few years, this house will be worth half what you paid for it,” or did she not? Sure, it’s not her job to tell them that. But she claims some moral aversion to someone losing money for her gain. So she should have told them that whether it was her job to or not. Or she shouldn’t claim to have such compunctions.
Why do I care? I don’t. What I really wanted to address was this:
“If you really think about it, everything in life could be considered a scam.”
If you really think that, and you use it to defend unethical behavior, then you should probably consider taking an ethics class or otherwise educating yourself.
August 30, 2006 at 12:55 PM #34001PerryChaseParticipantpowayseller’s first obligation is to her family. She didn’t push her home directly onto the buyer. Her Realtor and the buyer’s Realtor handled the sale.
I’m not defending unethical behavior. I’m just saying that life in full of moral/ethical contradictions. If you don’t see that then you’ve not been examining life.
I believe in free markets. Buyers and sellers should do their own research. Realtors only facilitate the transactions. I see no ethical issue in being a Realtor in an up or a down market.
August 30, 2006 at 1:07 PM #34004anParticipantsame can be said about realtor. Their first obligation is to their families. If they don’t sell the house, their families can’t eat. So your argument swing both ways. Realtor didn’t go knock on the buyer’s door and ask them if they wanted to buy.
Let he who has no sin cast the first stone. Don’t be so quick to crucified others when all of us do the same thing, one way or another.
August 30, 2006 at 3:56 PM #34029zkParticipant“powayseller’s first obligation is to her family. She didn’t push her home directly onto the buyer.”
That’s got nothing to do with anything. She claims to not be able to do something that would be her gain at another’s loss, yet she did just that.
“I’m not defending unethical behavior. I’m just saying that CVf you really think about it, everything in life could be considered a scam. If you don’t see that then you’ve not been examining life.”
If you think that I said or implied that I don’t think that life is full of moral/ethical contradictions, then you’ve not been examining my posts.
“If you really think about it, everything in life could be considered a scam.” is a long, long way from, “life is full of moral/ethical contradictions,”
Just because I disagree with the former doesn’t mean I disagree with the latter.
August 30, 2006 at 4:21 PM #34032JESParticipantPowayseller did claim to not be able to do something that would be her gain and another’s loss, and yet did that very thing. What is even more puzzling is why anyone would even consider these actions unethical, and why she even has a problem with them in the first place! Services of honest realtors are required even in a down market. Furthermore, in the broader business world, millions of deals are made every day where both sides evaluate the information available and take risks that could lead to one side losing and another winning. When I place a bet at Del Mar and win and the track loses the law does not consider that unethical behavior, even if I bet on the horse with the worst odds. It wouldn’t even be unethical for someone to advise me to bet on that horse so long as the are upfront with me about the risks.
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