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March 19, 2020 at 2:23 PM #815776March 19, 2020 at 8:29 PM #815784
svelteParticipantShit’s getting real now! Fresh off the press, Californians ordered to stay home:
March 19, 2020 at 8:33 PM #815785
svelteParticipantAn easier to read format:
https://covid19.ca.gov/stay-home-except-for-essential-needs/
March 19, 2020 at 9:20 PM #815786
CoronitaParticipantI just bought groceriesonline from Costco, and they use instacart to deliver. Costco doesn’t charge that much more, and includes a tip for the instacart driver.
She was a very nice lady, totally OCD wearing glove and masks and starts out saying, don’t worry I already wiped everything down with a disinfectant wipe.
Turns out she’s thankful for being able to find this job. She was in her mid-40ies and was already having a tough time finding a job at restaurants/shops, and now that they are closed, she found this and has a steady paycheck. She delivered everything at 9pm as promised.
I think the economy has changed drastically, some old jobs will be replaced by new jobs. A lot of personal errand runners, etc. Helps to have a car. Won’t work with public transportation.
March 19, 2020 at 10:41 PM #815788outtamojo
Participant[quote=svelte]Shit’s getting real now! Fresh off the press, Californians ordered to stay home:
I wonder how much of that $3K I am going to qualify for…
March 19, 2020 at 11:35 PM #815789sdduuuude
Participant[quote=zk][quote=sdduuuude] The structure of government where they take your money and tell you what to do is destined to fail every time, even if you get to vote.[/quote]
Am I mistaken, or is that all governments? Even “small” ones?[/quote]
You are not misaken.
Bigger (higher % of GDP is govt spending) is worse, though.March 19, 2020 at 11:36 PM #815790sdduuuude
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=sdduuuude]
My rejection of big government is far from “mindless”.
I have studied the ramifications of “voluntary social systems” for over 30 years now, starting in college. The structure of government where they take your money and tell you what to do is destined to fail every time, even if you get to vote.[/quote]
In your estimation, has the USA reached big government?[/quote]
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March 19, 2020 at 11:38 PM #815791sdduuuude
Participant[quote=svelte]An easier to read format:
https://covid19.ca.gov/stay-home-except-for-essential-needs/%5B/quote%5D
I have to say I think this is going too far, making the cure worse than the disease.
March 19, 2020 at 11:55 PM #815794FlyerInHi
GuestThis a Japanese documentary on how China did it in one city — Nanjing. I’m impressed by how fast they ramped up with software and logistics.
March 20, 2020 at 4:17 AM #815797The-Shoveler
Participant[quote=sdduuuude][quote=svelte]An easier to read format:
https://covid19.ca.gov/stay-home-except-for-essential-needs/%5B/quote%5D
I have to say I think this is going too far, making the cure worse than the disease.[/quote]
+1
March 20, 2020 at 7:33 AM #815798
svelteParticipantI’m not sure what to think. A bit of overreaction is better than underreaction, but have we went waaay over?
I just don’t know. Luckily I don’t have to decide because I’m not calling the shots. I’m jezz doing as I’m told, as usual.
I just wish it was a little warmer when all of this happened so I could spend more of this time in the back yard chillin by the BBQ.
March 20, 2020 at 8:41 AM #815801
CoronitaParticipant[quote=svelte]I’m not sure what to think. A bit of overreaction is better than underreaction, but have we went waaay over?
I just don’t know. Luckily I don’t have to decide because I’m not calling the shots. I’m jezz doing as I’m told, as usual.
I just wish it was a little warmer when all of this happened so I could spend more of this time in the back yard chillin by the BBQ.[/quote]
there is probably lots of projects you can think of.
I’m trying to restore one of my cars and was going to start to primer and paint and realize I probably shouldn’t because after I’m done I probably have to change the respirator filters and I don’t think I can find replacement cartridges tight now. But there’s plenty of other things on the list of things to do.
I ordered a quickjack from Costco . unfortunately my garage ceiling is still too low to put in a real lift.
https://www.costco.com/quickjack-5%2C000-lb-capacity-portable-car-lift-.product.100460313.html
March 20, 2020 at 9:01 AM #815800zk
Participant[quote=sdduuuude][quote=zk][quote=sdduuuude] The structure of government where they take your money and tell you what to do is destined to fail every time, even if you get to vote.[/quote]
Am I mistaken, or is that all governments? Even “small” ones?[/quote]
You are not misaken.
Bigger (higher % of GDP is govt spending) is worse, though.[/quote]So you’re saying all governments are destined to fail.
But if it takes several hundred years or more to fail (which in many cases it has), then you can’t really say that it was necessarily an inherent fault in the nature of the system. There are no human systems (on the scale of a government, anyway – even the smallest one) that won’t fail at some point, if you give them five hundred years. That’s not necessarily because said system was fatally flawed. Circumstances change. Other countries invade. Humans screw things up. Anything can happen.
March 20, 2020 at 9:11 AM #815802sdduuuude
Participant[quote=zk][quote=sdduuuude][quote=zk][quote=sdduuuude] The structure of government where they take your money and tell you what to do is destined to fail every time, even if you get to vote.[/quote]
Am I mistaken, or is that all governments? Even “small” ones?[/quote]
You are not misaken.
Bigger (higher % of GDP is govt spending) is worse, though.[/quote]So you’re saying all governments are destined to fail.
But if it takes several hundred years or more to fail (which in many cases it has), then you can’t really say that it was necessarily an inherent fault in the nature of the system. There are no human systems (on the scale of a government, anyway – even the smallest one) that won’t fail at some point, if you give them five hundred years. That’s not necessarily because said system was fatally flawed. Circumstances change. Other countries invade. Humans screw things up. Anything can happen.[/quote]
Any government that makes too many decisions for it’s people, other than restricting coercive behavior, yes. An interesting topic for another thread.
March 20, 2020 at 10:13 AM #815809sdduuuude
Participant[quote=The-Shoveler][quote=sdduuuude][quote=svelte]An easier to read format:
https://covid19.ca.gov/stay-home-except-for-essential-needs/%5B/quote%5D
I have to say I think this is going too far, making the cure worse than the disease.[/quote]
+1[/quote]
The marginal gain from “social distancing” to “stay at home” seem minimal. Things are still exponential but the effects of social distancing won’t be seen until the 30th or so.
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