Off topic “coronavirus”

[The-Shoveler]

Basically China is trying to quarantine an area and a population the size of L.A.
Note sure the death toll is quite accurate.

I wish them well, in the mean time “1” case in L.A. and one in Seattle (not sure how many were on the planes)
Take weeks to show symptoms.

[Coronita]

I think we should temporarily ban travelers to and from China. For the safety of people in the US. It’s the right thing to do, and other countries are already thinking of doing similar things. This is potentially a public health crisis.

You know how people got this right? People initially got it from eatting snakes. Come on now, really? Geesh. Talk about uncivilized. Just one more fxcked up thing to come out of China. It figures.

[zk]

[quote=flu] People initially got it from eatting snakes. Come on now, really? Geesh. Talk about uncivilized. [/quote]

Why is it less civilized to eat snakes than to eat, say, cows?

[The-Shoveler]

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[Coronita]

[quote=zk][quote=flu] People initially got it from eatting snakes. Come on now, really? Geesh. Talk about uncivilized. [/quote]

Why is it less civilized to eat snakes than to eat, say, cows?[/quote]

Because animals like snakes, bats, rats, possums that are eaten are not inspected and being wild, they also are.known animals to have a propensity.of carrying diseases, not just limited to rabies.

[Coronita]

[quote=zk][quote=flu] People initially got it from eatting snakes. Come on now, really? Geesh. Talk about uncivilized. [/quote]

Why is it less civilized to eat snakes than to eat, say, cows?[/quote]

Because animals like snakes, bats, rats, possums that are eaten are not inspected and being wild, they also are known animals to have a propensity of carrying diseases, not just limited to rabies.

[spdrun]

People eat fish from the ocean — that’s a wild animal. People eat venison that they hunt — it’s a delicacy to some. Every food comes with some risk. Intensive (“civilized”) pig and chicken farming is probably more responsible for spreading illness than eating snake meat.

[gzz]

Pigs are the major meat animal most closely related to human beings and thus the largest disease risk.

Primates are sporadically consumed for meat in Africa and Asia, sometimes called “bush meat.” This is how HIV first infected human beings, likely in Congo in the 1950s.

[Coronita]

[quote=gzz]Pigs are the major meat animal most closely related to human beings and thus the largest disease risk.

Primates are sporadically consumed for meat in Africa and Asia, sometimes called “bush meat.” This is how HIV first infected human beings, likely in Congo in the 1950s.[/quote]

yes but you have something here that actually inspects meat here. And it’s unlikely you will find fish here that is preserved in Mercury bath unlike China .

I think you guys are missing the point. The analogy would be if you caught a bunch of squirrels or wild rabbits in your backyard, killed them, and took them to the local swap meet to sell them as food without any sort of inspection.

[zk]

[quote=flu]

I think you guys are missing the point. The analogy would be if you caught a bunch of squirrels or wild rabbits in your backyard, killed them, and took them to the local swap meet to sell them as food without any sort of inspection.[/quote]

If the current republican administration has its way, some of the responsibility for slaughterhouse food safety will be transferred to those who could save (make more) money by cutting corners. Which could be as (or more) dangerous than (obviously far more widespread than) selling wild squirrels at the market.

Efficient government is good. Slashing government in mindless pursuit of small government is not.

[Coronita]

[quote=zk][quote=flu]

I think you guys are missing the point. The analogy would be if you caught a bunch of squirrels or wild rabbits in your backyard, killed them, and took them to the local swap meet to sell them as food without any sort of inspection.[/quote]

If the current republican administration has its way, some of the responsibility for slaughterhouse food safety will be transferred to those who could save (make more) money by cutting corners. Which could be as (or more) dangerous than (obviously far more widespread than) selling wild squirrels at the market.

Efficient government is good. Slashing government in mindless pursuit of small government is not.[/quote]

really zk? Another political bent ? We are so far away from the (lack of ) food safety in China it’s not even close. not by a long mile.

Watch

There’s a reason why some Chinese people here refuse to buy any food that was made in China or from China

[zk]

[quote=flu] We are so far away from the (lack of ) food safety in China it’s not even close. not by a long mile.
[/quote]

Totally beside the point. You indicated that eating uninspected food is uncivilized. I pointed out that the political party you seem to support thinks that leaving inspection up to the wolves running the henhouse (and thus probably eating uninspected food) is ok.

Of course, just because you (seem to) support the republican party in general doesn’t mean you support all their policies. If you think eating uninspected food is uncivilized, it seems like you’d be against that particular proposal.

[Coronita]

[quote=zk][quote=flu] We are so far away from the (lack of ) food safety in China it’s not even close. not by a long mile.
[/quote]

Totally beside the point. You indicated that eating uninspected food is uncivilized. I pointed out that the political party you seem to support thinks that leaving inspection up to the wolves running the henhouse (and thus probably eating uninspected food) is ok.

Of course, just because you (seem to) support the republican party in general doesn’t mean you support all their policies. If you think eating uninspected food is uncivilized, it seems like you’d be against that particular proposal.[/quote]

No, I said the entire food system in China is uncivilized
including everything

1) eating wild uninspected animals

2) being able to sell wild uninspected animals on the free market

3) having virtually no food product safety standard enforced at the local level because of all the Corruption

4) people accepting this as acceptable.

You brought up the unrelated bent on Republicans and which had nothing to do with China’s problem. This isn’t the first time China had such a widespread public health issue. First it was SARS and their pathetic attempt to cover up the severity it. And then it was the melamine that the government also covered up and downplayed the severity.

You are crazy if you comparing the Chinese government to the Republicans… The worst Republicans and Progressives are still light years ahead of the shit that goes on in China.

None of you people have any idea how bad things are there, because most of you who see the Chinese here in the US are the top 1% of the privileged population.

Anyway, I don’t care if you want to go eat food manufactured in China. If you want to take a chance, by all means go for it. Your life, your choice. It’s just bizzare to see people even attempt to make comparisons to politicians here versus in China.

[zk]

[quote=flu]
No, I said the entire food system in China is uncivilized

[/quote]
That’s not what you said. you said eating snakes is uncivilized:

[quote=flu]
People initially got it from eatting snakes. Come on now, really? Geesh. Talk about uncivilized.

[/quote]

[quote=flu]
You are crazy if you comparing the Chinese government to the Republicans… The worst Republicans and Progressives are still light years ahead of the shit that goes on in China.

[/quote]

I’m not comparing the Chinese government to the republicans. I’m saying that if you think eating uninspected food is uncivilized, you should disagree with republicans’ attempts to leave oversight of inspection to those who can profit from the lack thereof.

[FlyerInHi]

I had snake in Taiwan. Not really my thing. But not bad.
I had alligator in Florida. You can have bison at Ted’s Montana Grill.

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