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  • January 31, 2009 at 3:17 PM #339910
    HLS
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    I’m copying this from another post of mine…

    Markets repeat themselves. The DOW hit 1000 for the first time around 1965 and didn’t break out above that until 1984. NINETEEN YEARS..There was opportunity in between if your timing was right.

    In every market, people chase performance. It usually doesn’t work.

    Corresponding to the breakout of the stock market in the 1980’s was the inception of 401K’s starting in 1980… the market didn’t break out for no reason…..

    The fuel for igniting the stock market to DOW 15,000 was not 1500% growth in America, it was manipulation and greed combined with the explosive contributions of clueless people putting money into something that they did not understand, EXACTLY LIKE BUYING HOUSES.

    Stocks have only pulled back about 40%+ from the recent peak, so far.

    It’s a different world today and comparisons to peak prices in either houses or stocks are simply foolish. Neither mean ANYTHING, except what a foolish person paid EXPECTING that it would go up more…

    Markets are fueled by fear and greed, nothing more. It doesn’t matter what the product is.
    Without manipulation of SOME SORT, markets don’t rise by themselves.

    The worst is yet to come. Buckle your seat belt, it’s going to be a rough ride.

    DOW Stock Market History:
    http://www.creatingwealth.co.nz/history_…

    January 31, 2009 at 3:57 PM #339392
    4plexowner
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    “period from 2000 to 2003”

    IMO that is when the bear market SHOULD have begun – the markets would have corrected by now and we would likely have a healthy, growing economy today

    instead, our politicians and bankers fueled the next bubbles by taking interest rates to 1% and holding them there

    now we get to correct the original bull market plus the past 8 years of artificial stimulus

    that is, unless they succeed in fueling another bubble even bigger than the equity and RE bubbles – I’m not holding my breath

    January 31, 2009 at 3:57 PM #339718
    4plexowner
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    “period from 2000 to 2003”

    IMO that is when the bear market SHOULD have begun – the markets would have corrected by now and we would likely have a healthy, growing economy today

    instead, our politicians and bankers fueled the next bubbles by taking interest rates to 1% and holding them there

    now we get to correct the original bull market plus the past 8 years of artificial stimulus

    that is, unless they succeed in fueling another bubble even bigger than the equity and RE bubbles – I’m not holding my breath

    January 31, 2009 at 3:57 PM #339814
    4plexowner
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    “period from 2000 to 2003”

    IMO that is when the bear market SHOULD have begun – the markets would have corrected by now and we would likely have a healthy, growing economy today

    instead, our politicians and bankers fueled the next bubbles by taking interest rates to 1% and holding them there

    now we get to correct the original bull market plus the past 8 years of artificial stimulus

    that is, unless they succeed in fueling another bubble even bigger than the equity and RE bubbles – I’m not holding my breath

    January 31, 2009 at 3:57 PM #339841
    4plexowner
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    “period from 2000 to 2003”

    IMO that is when the bear market SHOULD have begun – the markets would have corrected by now and we would likely have a healthy, growing economy today

    instead, our politicians and bankers fueled the next bubbles by taking interest rates to 1% and holding them there

    now we get to correct the original bull market plus the past 8 years of artificial stimulus

    that is, unless they succeed in fueling another bubble even bigger than the equity and RE bubbles – I’m not holding my breath

    January 31, 2009 at 3:57 PM #339935
    4plexowner
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    “period from 2000 to 2003”

    IMO that is when the bear market SHOULD have begun – the markets would have corrected by now and we would likely have a healthy, growing economy today

    instead, our politicians and bankers fueled the next bubbles by taking interest rates to 1% and holding them there

    now we get to correct the original bull market plus the past 8 years of artificial stimulus

    that is, unless they succeed in fueling another bubble even bigger than the equity and RE bubbles – I’m not holding my breath

    January 31, 2009 at 5:29 PM #339442
    anxvariety
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    Have you ever lost 100% on a trade? Like the ticker just disappears… well you should try it, with like $100. Whether you lose $100 or $10,000 it’s the same feeling (I know). Why would you get in right now? Do you think it’s going to skyrocket? If so and you feel like you have a good pulse on the timing – consider options? To get the type of upside you want without risking a lot of dough. I still think a lot of shares are just going to disappear for the average shareholder..

    January 31, 2009 at 5:29 PM #339768
    anxvariety
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    Have you ever lost 100% on a trade? Like the ticker just disappears… well you should try it, with like $100. Whether you lose $100 or $10,000 it’s the same feeling (I know). Why would you get in right now? Do you think it’s going to skyrocket? If so and you feel like you have a good pulse on the timing – consider options? To get the type of upside you want without risking a lot of dough. I still think a lot of shares are just going to disappear for the average shareholder..

    January 31, 2009 at 5:29 PM #339864
    anxvariety
    Participant

    Have you ever lost 100% on a trade? Like the ticker just disappears… well you should try it, with like $100. Whether you lose $100 or $10,000 it’s the same feeling (I know). Why would you get in right now? Do you think it’s going to skyrocket? If so and you feel like you have a good pulse on the timing – consider options? To get the type of upside you want without risking a lot of dough. I still think a lot of shares are just going to disappear for the average shareholder..

    January 31, 2009 at 5:29 PM #339891
    anxvariety
    Participant

    Have you ever lost 100% on a trade? Like the ticker just disappears… well you should try it, with like $100. Whether you lose $100 or $10,000 it’s the same feeling (I know). Why would you get in right now? Do you think it’s going to skyrocket? If so and you feel like you have a good pulse on the timing – consider options? To get the type of upside you want without risking a lot of dough. I still think a lot of shares are just going to disappear for the average shareholder..

    January 31, 2009 at 5:29 PM #339985
    anxvariety
    Participant

    Have you ever lost 100% on a trade? Like the ticker just disappears… well you should try it, with like $100. Whether you lose $100 or $10,000 it’s the same feeling (I know). Why would you get in right now? Do you think it’s going to skyrocket? If so and you feel like you have a good pulse on the timing – consider options? To get the type of upside you want without risking a lot of dough. I still think a lot of shares are just going to disappear for the average shareholder..

    January 31, 2009 at 5:41 PM #339452
    HLS
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    Why stop at 100% loss…. open a margin acct and lose more than 100% ~

    It is possible to make money in the stock market, but it’s not a real profit until you actually sell and get out.

    Until the next bull run, which could be 10 or 20 years, it’s just a legalized casino.
    If the bull run is only 10 or 20 months away, you may do OK…
    Do you feel lucky ?

    Writing options is a “conservative risky” way to generate income when you are right and a way to lose money when you are wrong.

    Sounds like a casino to me !~ …HLS

    January 31, 2009 at 5:41 PM #339778
    HLS
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    Why stop at 100% loss…. open a margin acct and lose more than 100% ~

    It is possible to make money in the stock market, but it’s not a real profit until you actually sell and get out.

    Until the next bull run, which could be 10 or 20 years, it’s just a legalized casino.
    If the bull run is only 10 or 20 months away, you may do OK…
    Do you feel lucky ?

    Writing options is a “conservative risky” way to generate income when you are right and a way to lose money when you are wrong.

    Sounds like a casino to me !~ …HLS

    January 31, 2009 at 5:41 PM #339874
    HLS
    Participant

    Why stop at 100% loss…. open a margin acct and lose more than 100% ~

    It is possible to make money in the stock market, but it’s not a real profit until you actually sell and get out.

    Until the next bull run, which could be 10 or 20 years, it’s just a legalized casino.
    If the bull run is only 10 or 20 months away, you may do OK…
    Do you feel lucky ?

    Writing options is a “conservative risky” way to generate income when you are right and a way to lose money when you are wrong.

    Sounds like a casino to me !~ …HLS

    January 31, 2009 at 5:41 PM #339901
    HLS
    Participant

    Why stop at 100% loss…. open a margin acct and lose more than 100% ~

    It is possible to make money in the stock market, but it’s not a real profit until you actually sell and get out.

    Until the next bull run, which could be 10 or 20 years, it’s just a legalized casino.
    If the bull run is only 10 or 20 months away, you may do OK…
    Do you feel lucky ?

    Writing options is a “conservative risky” way to generate income when you are right and a way to lose money when you are wrong.

    Sounds like a casino to me !~ …HLS

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