Time for Jeff Bridges to dump Hyundai

[Coronita]

[quote=Rt.66]Flu did I say the Audi unintended acceleration cases were valid? No I did not.

As so often is the case, you went off on a fabricated tangent and missed the point entirely, blinded by your dislike for my posts. [/quote]

I think it was pretty clear where you were trying to go with your post about “quality” of foreign makes.

Again, the best way for GM to win back customers is…um build products that appeal to more people. Nothing you and I can do to change that. Ball is completely in GM’s court. If there’s anything to prove, GM needs to build cars that have demand more like the current Camaro, where on average people are paying $5k ABOVE MSRP, and where the inventory is less than 7 days.

People don’t give a shit whether it has a GM/Ford/Honda/Toyota label if you build a product that appeals to demographics. The problem with GM right now is that they have some serious product gaps.

Find me an equivalent car that is similar in size AND driving dynamics as a Bimmer/Audi/Mercedes C…And please, don’t mention the CTS, please that isn’t close, despite how much I respect the CTS Spec V. It’s a good car, handling ok, but big, and beefy. Find me something that was built to the size of a catera (remember those?), something that has tighter suspension, and doesn’t have the “bling bling, yo I’m a gangster” look.

[an]

[quote=flu]
Find me an equivalent car that is similar in size AND driving dynamics as a Bimmer/Audi/Mercedes C…And please, don’t mention the CTS, please that isn’t close, despite how much I respect the CTS Spec V. It’s a good car, handling ok, but big, and beefy. Find me something that was built to the size of a catera (remember those?), something that has tighter suspension, and doesn’t have the “bling bling, yo I’m a gangster” look.
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GM actually already have one, just not here in the US. It’s called the BLS. It’s being sold in Europe. CTS is really a E-class/A6/5-series competitor, not the C-class/A4/3-series competitor, although it’s priced like the later. GM have many nice cars in Europe, they just choose not to bring them here for some reason. I love their Saturn division, since it’s basically an re-badged Opal. I wish they didn’t kill the Sky/Solstice.

[an]

[quote=flu]
Find me an equivalent car that is similar in size AND driving dynamics as a Bimmer/Audi/Mercedes C…And please, don’t mention the CTS, please that isn’t close, despite how much I respect the CTS Spec V. It’s a good car, handling ok, but big, and beefy. Find me something that was built to the size of a catera (remember those?), something that has tighter suspension, and doesn’t have the “bling bling, yo I’m a gangster” look.
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GM actually already have one, just not here in the US. It’s called the BLS. It’s being sold in Europe. CTS is really a E-class/A6/5-series competitor, not the C-class/A4/3-series competitor, although it’s priced like the later. GM have many nice cars in Europe, they just choose not to bring them here for some reason. I love their Saturn division, since it’s basically an re-badged Opal. I wish they didn’t kill the Sky/Solstice.

[an]

[quote=flu]
Find me an equivalent car that is similar in size AND driving dynamics as a Bimmer/Audi/Mercedes C…And please, don’t mention the CTS, please that isn’t close, despite how much I respect the CTS Spec V. It’s a good car, handling ok, but big, and beefy. Find me something that was built to the size of a catera (remember those?), something that has tighter suspension, and doesn’t have the “bling bling, yo I’m a gangster” look.
[/quote]
GM actually already have one, just not here in the US. It’s called the BLS. It’s being sold in Europe. CTS is really a E-class/A6/5-series competitor, not the C-class/A4/3-series competitor, although it’s priced like the later. GM have many nice cars in Europe, they just choose not to bring them here for some reason. I love their Saturn division, since it’s basically an re-badged Opal. I wish they didn’t kill the Sky/Solstice.

[an]

[quote=flu]
Find me an equivalent car that is similar in size AND driving dynamics as a Bimmer/Audi/Mercedes C…And please, don’t mention the CTS, please that isn’t close, despite how much I respect the CTS Spec V. It’s a good car, handling ok, but big, and beefy. Find me something that was built to the size of a catera (remember those?), something that has tighter suspension, and doesn’t have the “bling bling, yo I’m a gangster” look.
[/quote]
GM actually already have one, just not here in the US. It’s called the BLS. It’s being sold in Europe. CTS is really a E-class/A6/5-series competitor, not the C-class/A4/3-series competitor, although it’s priced like the later. GM have many nice cars in Europe, they just choose not to bring them here for some reason. I love their Saturn division, since it’s basically an re-badged Opal. I wish they didn’t kill the Sky/Solstice.

[an]

[quote=flu]
Find me an equivalent car that is similar in size AND driving dynamics as a Bimmer/Audi/Mercedes C…And please, don’t mention the CTS, please that isn’t close, despite how much I respect the CTS Spec V. It’s a good car, handling ok, but big, and beefy. Find me something that was built to the size of a catera (remember those?), something that has tighter suspension, and doesn’t have the “bling bling, yo I’m a gangster” look.
[/quote]
GM actually already have one, just not here in the US. It’s called the BLS. It’s being sold in Europe. CTS is really a E-class/A6/5-series competitor, not the C-class/A4/3-series competitor, although it’s priced like the later. GM have many nice cars in Europe, they just choose not to bring them here for some reason. I love their Saturn division, since it’s basically an re-badged Opal. I wish they didn’t kill the Sky/Solstice.

[Coronita]

[quote=AN][quote=flu]
Find me an equivalent car that is similar in size AND driving dynamics as a Bimmer/Audi/Mercedes C…And please, don’t mention the CTS, please that isn’t close, despite how much I respect the CTS Spec V. It’s a good car, handling ok, but big, and beefy. Find me something that was built to the size of a catera (remember those?), something that has tighter suspension, and doesn’t have the “bling bling, yo I’m a gangster” look.
[/quote]
GM actually already have one, just not here in the US. It’s called the BLS. It’s being sold in Europe. CTS is really a E-class/A6/5-series competitor, not the C-class/A4/3-series competitor, although it’s priced like the later. GM have many nice cars in Europe, they just choose not to bring them here for some reason. I love their Saturn division, since it’s basically an re-badged Opal. I wish they didn’t kill the Sky/Solstice.[/quote]

I know…I was surprised they canned saturn. And Opel won’t be part of GM moving forward…Sigh.

[Coronita]

[quote=AN][quote=flu]
Find me an equivalent car that is similar in size AND driving dynamics as a Bimmer/Audi/Mercedes C…And please, don’t mention the CTS, please that isn’t close, despite how much I respect the CTS Spec V. It’s a good car, handling ok, but big, and beefy. Find me something that was built to the size of a catera (remember those?), something that has tighter suspension, and doesn’t have the “bling bling, yo I’m a gangster” look.
[/quote]
GM actually already have one, just not here in the US. It’s called the BLS. It’s being sold in Europe. CTS is really a E-class/A6/5-series competitor, not the C-class/A4/3-series competitor, although it’s priced like the later. GM have many nice cars in Europe, they just choose not to bring them here for some reason. I love their Saturn division, since it’s basically an re-badged Opal. I wish they didn’t kill the Sky/Solstice.[/quote]

I know…I was surprised they canned saturn. And Opel won’t be part of GM moving forward…Sigh.

[Coronita]

[quote=AN][quote=flu]
Find me an equivalent car that is similar in size AND driving dynamics as a Bimmer/Audi/Mercedes C…And please, don’t mention the CTS, please that isn’t close, despite how much I respect the CTS Spec V. It’s a good car, handling ok, but big, and beefy. Find me something that was built to the size of a catera (remember those?), something that has tighter suspension, and doesn’t have the “bling bling, yo I’m a gangster” look.
[/quote]
GM actually already have one, just not here in the US. It’s called the BLS. It’s being sold in Europe. CTS is really a E-class/A6/5-series competitor, not the C-class/A4/3-series competitor, although it’s priced like the later. GM have many nice cars in Europe, they just choose not to bring them here for some reason. I love their Saturn division, since it’s basically an re-badged Opal. I wish they didn’t kill the Sky/Solstice.[/quote]

I know…I was surprised they canned saturn. And Opel won’t be part of GM moving forward…Sigh.

[Coronita]

[quote=AN][quote=flu]
Find me an equivalent car that is similar in size AND driving dynamics as a Bimmer/Audi/Mercedes C…And please, don’t mention the CTS, please that isn’t close, despite how much I respect the CTS Spec V. It’s a good car, handling ok, but big, and beefy. Find me something that was built to the size of a catera (remember those?), something that has tighter suspension, and doesn’t have the “bling bling, yo I’m a gangster” look.
[/quote]
GM actually already have one, just not here in the US. It’s called the BLS. It’s being sold in Europe. CTS is really a E-class/A6/5-series competitor, not the C-class/A4/3-series competitor, although it’s priced like the later. GM have many nice cars in Europe, they just choose not to bring them here for some reason. I love their Saturn division, since it’s basically an re-badged Opal. I wish they didn’t kill the Sky/Solstice.[/quote]

I know…I was surprised they canned saturn. And Opel won’t be part of GM moving forward…Sigh.

[Coronita]

[quote=AN][quote=flu]
Find me an equivalent car that is similar in size AND driving dynamics as a Bimmer/Audi/Mercedes C…And please, don’t mention the CTS, please that isn’t close, despite how much I respect the CTS Spec V. It’s a good car, handling ok, but big, and beefy. Find me something that was built to the size of a catera (remember those?), something that has tighter suspension, and doesn’t have the “bling bling, yo I’m a gangster” look.
[/quote]
GM actually already have one, just not here in the US. It’s called the BLS. It’s being sold in Europe. CTS is really a E-class/A6/5-series competitor, not the C-class/A4/3-series competitor, although it’s priced like the later. GM have many nice cars in Europe, they just choose not to bring them here for some reason. I love their Saturn division, since it’s basically an re-badged Opal. I wish they didn’t kill the Sky/Solstice.[/quote]

I know…I was surprised they canned saturn. And Opel won’t be part of GM moving forward…Sigh.

[Rt.66]

[quote=CONCHO]Rt.66 I’m afraid you’re not going to change any minds here. This country is toast. The tent cities in my neighborhood grow by the day and now there are children in them (I’ve lived here 8 years and never seen that before). The people here will blame George Bush, they’ll blame Al Gore, they’ll blame Republicans and Democrats and conservatives and liberals and illegal immigrants and hippies and anyone else they can think of, but they will never blame the man in the mirror… (A little shout out to our fallen homie MJ there. Hee heeeeee!)

We are heading straight to the bottom. The lifeboats left some time ago and only us numbskulls are left on the tilting deck, arguing about who’s stateroom is better and who got the best price on the ticket.[/quote]

Well said and wise words.

Your post would make a nice bookend for this thread.

[Rt.66]

[quote=CONCHO]Rt.66 I’m afraid you’re not going to change any minds here. This country is toast. The tent cities in my neighborhood grow by the day and now there are children in them (I’ve lived here 8 years and never seen that before). The people here will blame George Bush, they’ll blame Al Gore, they’ll blame Republicans and Democrats and conservatives and liberals and illegal immigrants and hippies and anyone else they can think of, but they will never blame the man in the mirror… (A little shout out to our fallen homie MJ there. Hee heeeeee!)

We are heading straight to the bottom. The lifeboats left some time ago and only us numbskulls are left on the tilting deck, arguing about who’s stateroom is better and who got the best price on the ticket.[/quote]

Well said and wise words.

Your post would make a nice bookend for this thread.

[Rt.66]

[quote=CONCHO]Rt.66 I’m afraid you’re not going to change any minds here. This country is toast. The tent cities in my neighborhood grow by the day and now there are children in them (I’ve lived here 8 years and never seen that before). The people here will blame George Bush, they’ll blame Al Gore, they’ll blame Republicans and Democrats and conservatives and liberals and illegal immigrants and hippies and anyone else they can think of, but they will never blame the man in the mirror… (A little shout out to our fallen homie MJ there. Hee heeeeee!)

We are heading straight to the bottom. The lifeboats left some time ago and only us numbskulls are left on the tilting deck, arguing about who’s stateroom is better and who got the best price on the ticket.[/quote]

Well said and wise words.

Your post would make a nice bookend for this thread.

[Rt.66]

[quote=CONCHO]Rt.66 I’m afraid you’re not going to change any minds here. This country is toast. The tent cities in my neighborhood grow by the day and now there are children in them (I’ve lived here 8 years and never seen that before). The people here will blame George Bush, they’ll blame Al Gore, they’ll blame Republicans and Democrats and conservatives and liberals and illegal immigrants and hippies and anyone else they can think of, but they will never blame the man in the mirror… (A little shout out to our fallen homie MJ there. Hee heeeeee!)

We are heading straight to the bottom. The lifeboats left some time ago and only us numbskulls are left on the tilting deck, arguing about who’s stateroom is better and who got the best price on the ticket.[/quote]

Well said and wise words.

Your post would make a nice bookend for this thread.

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