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[davelj]

[quote=Russell]It wasn’t that I was right or wrong, I didn’t want to be bothered to expalin myself. I just don’t feel like this is the place or that you are the person to try to be fully sincere with on this topic. I am surprised that you care.[/quote]

I care exactly to the extent that I bother posting, although I don’t care “deeply” (and I doubt anyone here does – nor should they). Obviously you care to some degree yourself or you wouldn’t bother posting at all. In fact, you’ve bothered to attempt to explain yourself at great length in some instances… until confronted with uncomfortable inconsistencies. And it’s obviously your prerogative to avoid – or be not be “bothered” – addressing them. So be it.

[davelj]

[quote=UCGal][quote=davelj]On a related but different subject, does anyone else find it interesting that there really is no male equivalent to Groupies – whether they be of the musician, athlete, or other variety? I’m not saying that there aren’t some dudes who would hang around Britney Spears’ trailer to try to get in her pants, but… in a general sense, the population of folks who would be considered groupies is probably comprised 95%+ of females.[/quote]

Hasn’t Cher had her share of groupies. Rob Camilletti, her 22 year old bartender boyfriend comes to mind.

But it does seem to be quite a bit rarer. Chrissie Hynde (pretenders) commented that she’s never been approached by a male groupie. I challenge you to find any comparable MALE rocker that could make the claim of no groupies.[/quote]

The difference with Cher is that when she was dating the bartender (way back when), she was – in the eyes of many men (albeit, not me) – still an attractive woman from a physical standpoint. (I don’t think that can still be said today.) Likewise, there are attractive women in their 40s hanging out in Del Mar (the Couger set, as it were) that can still haul in young guys. It has little to do with celebrity, but rather pure physical attraction. In my view, the bartender was not a groupie – per se – but rather just a young guy that found Cher attractive. And I’m sure the creature comforts that came with dating Cher weren’t too bad, either.

Now, compare that with Keith Richards (and his ilk) and the young women available to him…

[davelj]

[quote=UCGal][quote=davelj]On a related but different subject, does anyone else find it interesting that there really is no male equivalent to Groupies – whether they be of the musician, athlete, or other variety? I’m not saying that there aren’t some dudes who would hang around Britney Spears’ trailer to try to get in her pants, but… in a general sense, the population of folks who would be considered groupies is probably comprised 95%+ of females.[/quote]

Hasn’t Cher had her share of groupies. Rob Camilletti, her 22 year old bartender boyfriend comes to mind.

But it does seem to be quite a bit rarer. Chrissie Hynde (pretenders) commented that she’s never been approached by a male groupie. I challenge you to find any comparable MALE rocker that could make the claim of no groupies.[/quote]

The difference with Cher is that when she was dating the bartender (way back when), she was – in the eyes of many men (albeit, not me) – still an attractive woman from a physical standpoint. (I don’t think that can still be said today.) Likewise, there are attractive women in their 40s hanging out in Del Mar (the Couger set, as it were) that can still haul in young guys. It has little to do with celebrity, but rather pure physical attraction. In my view, the bartender was not a groupie – per se – but rather just a young guy that found Cher attractive. And I’m sure the creature comforts that came with dating Cher weren’t too bad, either.

Now, compare that with Keith Richards (and his ilk) and the young women available to him…

[davelj]

[quote=UCGal][quote=davelj]On a related but different subject, does anyone else find it interesting that there really is no male equivalent to Groupies – whether they be of the musician, athlete, or other variety? I’m not saying that there aren’t some dudes who would hang around Britney Spears’ trailer to try to get in her pants, but… in a general sense, the population of folks who would be considered groupies is probably comprised 95%+ of females.[/quote]

Hasn’t Cher had her share of groupies. Rob Camilletti, her 22 year old bartender boyfriend comes to mind.

But it does seem to be quite a bit rarer. Chrissie Hynde (pretenders) commented that she’s never been approached by a male groupie. I challenge you to find any comparable MALE rocker that could make the claim of no groupies.[/quote]

The difference with Cher is that when she was dating the bartender (way back when), she was – in the eyes of many men (albeit, not me) – still an attractive woman from a physical standpoint. (I don’t think that can still be said today.) Likewise, there are attractive women in their 40s hanging out in Del Mar (the Couger set, as it were) that can still haul in young guys. It has little to do with celebrity, but rather pure physical attraction. In my view, the bartender was not a groupie – per se – but rather just a young guy that found Cher attractive. And I’m sure the creature comforts that came with dating Cher weren’t too bad, either.

Now, compare that with Keith Richards (and his ilk) and the young women available to him…

[davelj]

[quote=UCGal][quote=davelj]On a related but different subject, does anyone else find it interesting that there really is no male equivalent to Groupies – whether they be of the musician, athlete, or other variety? I’m not saying that there aren’t some dudes who would hang around Britney Spears’ trailer to try to get in her pants, but… in a general sense, the population of folks who would be considered groupies is probably comprised 95%+ of females.[/quote]

Hasn’t Cher had her share of groupies. Rob Camilletti, her 22 year old bartender boyfriend comes to mind.

But it does seem to be quite a bit rarer. Chrissie Hynde (pretenders) commented that she’s never been approached by a male groupie. I challenge you to find any comparable MALE rocker that could make the claim of no groupies.[/quote]

The difference with Cher is that when she was dating the bartender (way back when), she was – in the eyes of many men (albeit, not me) – still an attractive woman from a physical standpoint. (I don’t think that can still be said today.) Likewise, there are attractive women in their 40s hanging out in Del Mar (the Couger set, as it were) that can still haul in young guys. It has little to do with celebrity, but rather pure physical attraction. In my view, the bartender was not a groupie – per se – but rather just a young guy that found Cher attractive. And I’m sure the creature comforts that came with dating Cher weren’t too bad, either.

Now, compare that with Keith Richards (and his ilk) and the young women available to him…

[davelj]

[quote=UCGal][quote=davelj]On a related but different subject, does anyone else find it interesting that there really is no male equivalent to Groupies – whether they be of the musician, athlete, or other variety? I’m not saying that there aren’t some dudes who would hang around Britney Spears’ trailer to try to get in her pants, but… in a general sense, the population of folks who would be considered groupies is probably comprised 95%+ of females.[/quote]

Hasn’t Cher had her share of groupies. Rob Camilletti, her 22 year old bartender boyfriend comes to mind.

But it does seem to be quite a bit rarer. Chrissie Hynde (pretenders) commented that she’s never been approached by a male groupie. I challenge you to find any comparable MALE rocker that could make the claim of no groupies.[/quote]

The difference with Cher is that when she was dating the bartender (way back when), she was – in the eyes of many men (albeit, not me) – still an attractive woman from a physical standpoint. (I don’t think that can still be said today.) Likewise, there are attractive women in their 40s hanging out in Del Mar (the Couger set, as it were) that can still haul in young guys. It has little to do with celebrity, but rather pure physical attraction. In my view, the bartender was not a groupie – per se – but rather just a young guy that found Cher attractive. And I’m sure the creature comforts that came with dating Cher weren’t too bad, either.

Now, compare that with Keith Richards (and his ilk) and the young women available to him…

[NotCranky]

[quote=davelj][quote=Russell]It wasn’t that I was right or wrong, I didn’t want to be bothered to expalin myself. I just don’t feel like this is the place or that you are the person to try to be fully sincere with on this topic. I am surprised that you care.[/quote]

I care exactly to the extent that I bother posting, although I don’t care “deeply” (and I doubt anyone here does – nor should they). Obviously you care to some degree yourself or you wouldn’t bother posting at all. In fact, you’ve bothered to attempt to explain yourself at great length in some instances… until confronted with uncomfortable inconsistencies. And it’s obviously your prerogative to avoid – or be not be “bothered” – addressing them. So be it.[/quote]

O.K. Have a good day, Dave.

[NotCranky]

[quote=davelj][quote=Russell]It wasn’t that I was right or wrong, I didn’t want to be bothered to expalin myself. I just don’t feel like this is the place or that you are the person to try to be fully sincere with on this topic. I am surprised that you care.[/quote]

I care exactly to the extent that I bother posting, although I don’t care “deeply” (and I doubt anyone here does – nor should they). Obviously you care to some degree yourself or you wouldn’t bother posting at all. In fact, you’ve bothered to attempt to explain yourself at great length in some instances… until confronted with uncomfortable inconsistencies. And it’s obviously your prerogative to avoid – or be not be “bothered” – addressing them. So be it.[/quote]

O.K. Have a good day, Dave.

[NotCranky]

[quote=davelj][quote=Russell]It wasn’t that I was right or wrong, I didn’t want to be bothered to expalin myself. I just don’t feel like this is the place or that you are the person to try to be fully sincere with on this topic. I am surprised that you care.[/quote]

I care exactly to the extent that I bother posting, although I don’t care “deeply” (and I doubt anyone here does – nor should they). Obviously you care to some degree yourself or you wouldn’t bother posting at all. In fact, you’ve bothered to attempt to explain yourself at great length in some instances… until confronted with uncomfortable inconsistencies. And it’s obviously your prerogative to avoid – or be not be “bothered” – addressing them. So be it.[/quote]

O.K. Have a good day, Dave.

[NotCranky]

[quote=davelj][quote=Russell]It wasn’t that I was right or wrong, I didn’t want to be bothered to expalin myself. I just don’t feel like this is the place or that you are the person to try to be fully sincere with on this topic. I am surprised that you care.[/quote]

I care exactly to the extent that I bother posting, although I don’t care “deeply” (and I doubt anyone here does – nor should they). Obviously you care to some degree yourself or you wouldn’t bother posting at all. In fact, you’ve bothered to attempt to explain yourself at great length in some instances… until confronted with uncomfortable inconsistencies. And it’s obviously your prerogative to avoid – or be not be “bothered” – addressing them. So be it.[/quote]

O.K. Have a good day, Dave.

[NotCranky]

[quote=davelj][quote=Russell]It wasn’t that I was right or wrong, I didn’t want to be bothered to expalin myself. I just don’t feel like this is the place or that you are the person to try to be fully sincere with on this topic. I am surprised that you care.[/quote]

I care exactly to the extent that I bother posting, although I don’t care “deeply” (and I doubt anyone here does – nor should they). Obviously you care to some degree yourself or you wouldn’t bother posting at all. In fact, you’ve bothered to attempt to explain yourself at great length in some instances… until confronted with uncomfortable inconsistencies. And it’s obviously your prerogative to avoid – or be not be “bothered” – addressing them. So be it.[/quote]

O.K. Have a good day, Dave.

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