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January 26, 2009 at 1:27 PM #337019January 26, 2009 at 4:23 PM #336600eclipxeParticipant
[quote=paramount]In the 2+ years I have been on this board, I have never read such dire predictions from so many rational and smart people.
I think a key will be timing, there may be a point when you will need to get out of town – if you wait to long you could be in trouble.
Temecula has a great escape route to the east if things got that bad.
On the other hand, maybe a hidden underground bunker is the way to go.[/quote]
I’ll add that to my list of “why Temecula is awesome”
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5. Rainbow Gap
6. Great escape route to the east in case of collapse of society
….I’ll setup the first Piggs outpost at the intersection of Rancho Cal and Butterfield. We’ll rendezvous there then head East as a group. Who wants to bring the tacos? TG has the cigars I assume? We can stop by the wineries on our way out and stock up.
See you guys this Summer!
January 26, 2009 at 4:23 PM #336928eclipxeParticipant[quote=paramount]In the 2+ years I have been on this board, I have never read such dire predictions from so many rational and smart people.
I think a key will be timing, there may be a point when you will need to get out of town – if you wait to long you could be in trouble.
Temecula has a great escape route to the east if things got that bad.
On the other hand, maybe a hidden underground bunker is the way to go.[/quote]
I’ll add that to my list of “why Temecula is awesome”
….
5. Rainbow Gap
6. Great escape route to the east in case of collapse of society
….I’ll setup the first Piggs outpost at the intersection of Rancho Cal and Butterfield. We’ll rendezvous there then head East as a group. Who wants to bring the tacos? TG has the cigars I assume? We can stop by the wineries on our way out and stock up.
See you guys this Summer!
January 26, 2009 at 4:23 PM #337017eclipxeParticipant[quote=paramount]In the 2+ years I have been on this board, I have never read such dire predictions from so many rational and smart people.
I think a key will be timing, there may be a point when you will need to get out of town – if you wait to long you could be in trouble.
Temecula has a great escape route to the east if things got that bad.
On the other hand, maybe a hidden underground bunker is the way to go.[/quote]
I’ll add that to my list of “why Temecula is awesome”
….
5. Rainbow Gap
6. Great escape route to the east in case of collapse of society
….I’ll setup the first Piggs outpost at the intersection of Rancho Cal and Butterfield. We’ll rendezvous there then head East as a group. Who wants to bring the tacos? TG has the cigars I assume? We can stop by the wineries on our way out and stock up.
See you guys this Summer!
January 26, 2009 at 4:23 PM #337045eclipxeParticipant[quote=paramount]In the 2+ years I have been on this board, I have never read such dire predictions from so many rational and smart people.
I think a key will be timing, there may be a point when you will need to get out of town – if you wait to long you could be in trouble.
Temecula has a great escape route to the east if things got that bad.
On the other hand, maybe a hidden underground bunker is the way to go.[/quote]
I’ll add that to my list of “why Temecula is awesome”
….
5. Rainbow Gap
6. Great escape route to the east in case of collapse of society
….I’ll setup the first Piggs outpost at the intersection of Rancho Cal and Butterfield. We’ll rendezvous there then head East as a group. Who wants to bring the tacos? TG has the cigars I assume? We can stop by the wineries on our way out and stock up.
See you guys this Summer!
January 26, 2009 at 4:23 PM #337133eclipxeParticipant[quote=paramount]In the 2+ years I have been on this board, I have never read such dire predictions from so many rational and smart people.
I think a key will be timing, there may be a point when you will need to get out of town – if you wait to long you could be in trouble.
Temecula has a great escape route to the east if things got that bad.
On the other hand, maybe a hidden underground bunker is the way to go.[/quote]
I’ll add that to my list of “why Temecula is awesome”
….
5. Rainbow Gap
6. Great escape route to the east in case of collapse of society
….I’ll setup the first Piggs outpost at the intersection of Rancho Cal and Butterfield. We’ll rendezvous there then head East as a group. Who wants to bring the tacos? TG has the cigars I assume? We can stop by the wineries on our way out and stock up.
See you guys this Summer!
January 26, 2009 at 5:03 PM #336625partypupParticipant[quote=jficquette][quote=TheBreeze]I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: If society collapses, I’d rather have an infinite supply of canned goods and clean drinking water than an infinite supply of gold. You can’t eat gold.
Gold is nice to have in relatively stable societies, but I can’t see it having much value in a period of chaos.[/quote]
I agree. That’s why I never considered buying Gold.
In true times of chaos, bottled water, bullets, cans of food will be the currency of choice.
John[/quote]
John, don’t forget that a collapse doesn’t happen overnight. You will need gold or silver for the period that PRECEDES the collapse. There will be plenty of opportunities to take advantage of, and gold may very well enable you to build that stockpile of bottled water, bullets and canned food after the dollar becomes worthless. I don’t know how long that period of time will be, but once our economy finally gives way under the weight of its own excess I don’t think we will be going immediately to a barter economy. Gold may be handy to have in the *transition* period before people actually come around to accepting that the future will require us all to start doing more things on our own (growing food, making clothes — and making beer! I LOVE that part!)
January 26, 2009 at 5:03 PM #336953partypupParticipant[quote=jficquette][quote=TheBreeze]I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: If society collapses, I’d rather have an infinite supply of canned goods and clean drinking water than an infinite supply of gold. You can’t eat gold.
Gold is nice to have in relatively stable societies, but I can’t see it having much value in a period of chaos.[/quote]
I agree. That’s why I never considered buying Gold.
In true times of chaos, bottled water, bullets, cans of food will be the currency of choice.
John[/quote]
John, don’t forget that a collapse doesn’t happen overnight. You will need gold or silver for the period that PRECEDES the collapse. There will be plenty of opportunities to take advantage of, and gold may very well enable you to build that stockpile of bottled water, bullets and canned food after the dollar becomes worthless. I don’t know how long that period of time will be, but once our economy finally gives way under the weight of its own excess I don’t think we will be going immediately to a barter economy. Gold may be handy to have in the *transition* period before people actually come around to accepting that the future will require us all to start doing more things on our own (growing food, making clothes — and making beer! I LOVE that part!)
January 26, 2009 at 5:03 PM #337042partypupParticipant[quote=jficquette][quote=TheBreeze]I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: If society collapses, I’d rather have an infinite supply of canned goods and clean drinking water than an infinite supply of gold. You can’t eat gold.
Gold is nice to have in relatively stable societies, but I can’t see it having much value in a period of chaos.[/quote]
I agree. That’s why I never considered buying Gold.
In true times of chaos, bottled water, bullets, cans of food will be the currency of choice.
John[/quote]
John, don’t forget that a collapse doesn’t happen overnight. You will need gold or silver for the period that PRECEDES the collapse. There will be plenty of opportunities to take advantage of, and gold may very well enable you to build that stockpile of bottled water, bullets and canned food after the dollar becomes worthless. I don’t know how long that period of time will be, but once our economy finally gives way under the weight of its own excess I don’t think we will be going immediately to a barter economy. Gold may be handy to have in the *transition* period before people actually come around to accepting that the future will require us all to start doing more things on our own (growing food, making clothes — and making beer! I LOVE that part!)
January 26, 2009 at 5:03 PM #337070partypupParticipant[quote=jficquette][quote=TheBreeze]I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: If society collapses, I’d rather have an infinite supply of canned goods and clean drinking water than an infinite supply of gold. You can’t eat gold.
Gold is nice to have in relatively stable societies, but I can’t see it having much value in a period of chaos.[/quote]
I agree. That’s why I never considered buying Gold.
In true times of chaos, bottled water, bullets, cans of food will be the currency of choice.
John[/quote]
John, don’t forget that a collapse doesn’t happen overnight. You will need gold or silver for the period that PRECEDES the collapse. There will be plenty of opportunities to take advantage of, and gold may very well enable you to build that stockpile of bottled water, bullets and canned food after the dollar becomes worthless. I don’t know how long that period of time will be, but once our economy finally gives way under the weight of its own excess I don’t think we will be going immediately to a barter economy. Gold may be handy to have in the *transition* period before people actually come around to accepting that the future will require us all to start doing more things on our own (growing food, making clothes — and making beer! I LOVE that part!)
January 26, 2009 at 5:03 PM #337158partypupParticipant[quote=jficquette][quote=TheBreeze]I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: If society collapses, I’d rather have an infinite supply of canned goods and clean drinking water than an infinite supply of gold. You can’t eat gold.
Gold is nice to have in relatively stable societies, but I can’t see it having much value in a period of chaos.[/quote]
I agree. That’s why I never considered buying Gold.
In true times of chaos, bottled water, bullets, cans of food will be the currency of choice.
John[/quote]
John, don’t forget that a collapse doesn’t happen overnight. You will need gold or silver for the period that PRECEDES the collapse. There will be plenty of opportunities to take advantage of, and gold may very well enable you to build that stockpile of bottled water, bullets and canned food after the dollar becomes worthless. I don’t know how long that period of time will be, but once our economy finally gives way under the weight of its own excess I don’t think we will be going immediately to a barter economy. Gold may be handy to have in the *transition* period before people actually come around to accepting that the future will require us all to start doing more things on our own (growing food, making clothes — and making beer! I LOVE that part!)
January 26, 2009 at 5:34 PM #336630blahblahblahParticipantI love the whole “we’ll use gold to buy necessities when the Mad Max scenario hits” idea. Let’s see how this works:
1) Walk to the store with some of your gold coins and buy food.
2) Your starving neighbors notice the one guy on the street carrying food back to his house and surmise that he must have some gold.
3) Your starving neighbors storm your house and steal all of your food and gold. You shoot a couple of them before they overrun and kill you.
There is also the alternate scenario in which private ownership of gold is again outlawed by the federal government as happened under FDR. In that scenario the story goes like this:
1) Walk to the store with some of your gold coins and try to buy food.
2) The clerk freaks out when he sees gold coins instead of the federally-issued emergency ration coupons and presses the button under his cash register.
3) Blackwater goons attached to the store (to prevent rioting) grab you, throw a hood over your head and load you into a truck to be taken to a FEMA camp for some extreme sports activities like waterboarding.
Maybe you think you can escape the Mad Max world of Southern California and carry your gold coins off to someplace safer like Costa Rica or Australia? That scenario is quite entertaining as well:
1) Walk through a federal checkpoint X-Ray machine in an airport or at a border (could even be state or city borders if the SRHTF) on your way out of town.
2) Ding ding ding goes the metal detector.
3) The TSA gangstaz confiscate all of your gold coins which they then melt down to make new grillz for their teeth. Just for fun they take your shoes too.
Sorry I just ain’t buying it — now having a garden and some chickens and goats I can see. Having stores of food and water, I see that. Having a gun and some bullets and basically laying low for a while, I see that too. Walking down the street with gold doubloons in your pocket? Not so much but hey if you think it’ll work more power to you.
January 26, 2009 at 5:34 PM #336958blahblahblahParticipantI love the whole “we’ll use gold to buy necessities when the Mad Max scenario hits” idea. Let’s see how this works:
1) Walk to the store with some of your gold coins and buy food.
2) Your starving neighbors notice the one guy on the street carrying food back to his house and surmise that he must have some gold.
3) Your starving neighbors storm your house and steal all of your food and gold. You shoot a couple of them before they overrun and kill you.
There is also the alternate scenario in which private ownership of gold is again outlawed by the federal government as happened under FDR. In that scenario the story goes like this:
1) Walk to the store with some of your gold coins and try to buy food.
2) The clerk freaks out when he sees gold coins instead of the federally-issued emergency ration coupons and presses the button under his cash register.
3) Blackwater goons attached to the store (to prevent rioting) grab you, throw a hood over your head and load you into a truck to be taken to a FEMA camp for some extreme sports activities like waterboarding.
Maybe you think you can escape the Mad Max world of Southern California and carry your gold coins off to someplace safer like Costa Rica or Australia? That scenario is quite entertaining as well:
1) Walk through a federal checkpoint X-Ray machine in an airport or at a border (could even be state or city borders if the SRHTF) on your way out of town.
2) Ding ding ding goes the metal detector.
3) The TSA gangstaz confiscate all of your gold coins which they then melt down to make new grillz for their teeth. Just for fun they take your shoes too.
Sorry I just ain’t buying it — now having a garden and some chickens and goats I can see. Having stores of food and water, I see that. Having a gun and some bullets and basically laying low for a while, I see that too. Walking down the street with gold doubloons in your pocket? Not so much but hey if you think it’ll work more power to you.
January 26, 2009 at 5:34 PM #337047blahblahblahParticipantI love the whole “we’ll use gold to buy necessities when the Mad Max scenario hits” idea. Let’s see how this works:
1) Walk to the store with some of your gold coins and buy food.
2) Your starving neighbors notice the one guy on the street carrying food back to his house and surmise that he must have some gold.
3) Your starving neighbors storm your house and steal all of your food and gold. You shoot a couple of them before they overrun and kill you.
There is also the alternate scenario in which private ownership of gold is again outlawed by the federal government as happened under FDR. In that scenario the story goes like this:
1) Walk to the store with some of your gold coins and try to buy food.
2) The clerk freaks out when he sees gold coins instead of the federally-issued emergency ration coupons and presses the button under his cash register.
3) Blackwater goons attached to the store (to prevent rioting) grab you, throw a hood over your head and load you into a truck to be taken to a FEMA camp for some extreme sports activities like waterboarding.
Maybe you think you can escape the Mad Max world of Southern California and carry your gold coins off to someplace safer like Costa Rica or Australia? That scenario is quite entertaining as well:
1) Walk through a federal checkpoint X-Ray machine in an airport or at a border (could even be state or city borders if the SRHTF) on your way out of town.
2) Ding ding ding goes the metal detector.
3) The TSA gangstaz confiscate all of your gold coins which they then melt down to make new grillz for their teeth. Just for fun they take your shoes too.
Sorry I just ain’t buying it — now having a garden and some chickens and goats I can see. Having stores of food and water, I see that. Having a gun and some bullets and basically laying low for a while, I see that too. Walking down the street with gold doubloons in your pocket? Not so much but hey if you think it’ll work more power to you.
January 26, 2009 at 5:34 PM #337075blahblahblahParticipantI love the whole “we’ll use gold to buy necessities when the Mad Max scenario hits” idea. Let’s see how this works:
1) Walk to the store with some of your gold coins and buy food.
2) Your starving neighbors notice the one guy on the street carrying food back to his house and surmise that he must have some gold.
3) Your starving neighbors storm your house and steal all of your food and gold. You shoot a couple of them before they overrun and kill you.
There is also the alternate scenario in which private ownership of gold is again outlawed by the federal government as happened under FDR. In that scenario the story goes like this:
1) Walk to the store with some of your gold coins and try to buy food.
2) The clerk freaks out when he sees gold coins instead of the federally-issued emergency ration coupons and presses the button under his cash register.
3) Blackwater goons attached to the store (to prevent rioting) grab you, throw a hood over your head and load you into a truck to be taken to a FEMA camp for some extreme sports activities like waterboarding.
Maybe you think you can escape the Mad Max world of Southern California and carry your gold coins off to someplace safer like Costa Rica or Australia? That scenario is quite entertaining as well:
1) Walk through a federal checkpoint X-Ray machine in an airport or at a border (could even be state or city borders if the SRHTF) on your way out of town.
2) Ding ding ding goes the metal detector.
3) The TSA gangstaz confiscate all of your gold coins which they then melt down to make new grillz for their teeth. Just for fun they take your shoes too.
Sorry I just ain’t buying it — now having a garden and some chickens and goats I can see. Having stores of food and water, I see that. Having a gun and some bullets and basically laying low for a while, I see that too. Walking down the street with gold doubloons in your pocket? Not so much but hey if you think it’ll work more power to you.
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