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December 9, 2007 at 7:19 PM #11147December 9, 2007 at 7:21 PM #112529farbetParticipant
Savings and loan debacle round 2
December 9, 2007 at 7:21 PM #112646farbetParticipantSavings and loan debacle round 2
December 9, 2007 at 7:21 PM #112687farbetParticipantSavings and loan debacle round 2
December 9, 2007 at 7:21 PM #112694farbetParticipantSavings and loan debacle round 2
December 9, 2007 at 7:21 PM #112728farbetParticipantSavings and loan debacle round 2
December 9, 2007 at 7:44 PM #112540farbetParticipantfamous quotes from the press today
“Right now I think it takes a brave soul to buy a home because there’s so much chatter about housing prices dropping,” Toll said
The government-led initiative may “reduce the severity of the decline,” said Robert Shiller, chief economist at MacroMarkets LLC and a professor at Yale University in New Haven, Connecticut. Still, “if past cycles are a guide, we could have weak or declining markets for five to 10 years,” Shiller said.
It’ll be the biggest housing recession we’ve known,” said Allen Sinai, chief global economist at New York-based Decision Economics Inc. “Even if we figure this part of it out, we are not through it.”
“At best, it may stop some of the hemorrhaging of the housing market, but it doesn’t necessarily turn things around,” said Nicolas Retsinas, director of Harvard University’s Joint Center for Housing Studies in Cambridge, Massachusetts. “The fundamental problem with housing is oversupply
December 9, 2007 at 7:44 PM #112655farbetParticipantfamous quotes from the press today
“Right now I think it takes a brave soul to buy a home because there’s so much chatter about housing prices dropping,” Toll said
The government-led initiative may “reduce the severity of the decline,” said Robert Shiller, chief economist at MacroMarkets LLC and a professor at Yale University in New Haven, Connecticut. Still, “if past cycles are a guide, we could have weak or declining markets for five to 10 years,” Shiller said.
It’ll be the biggest housing recession we’ve known,” said Allen Sinai, chief global economist at New York-based Decision Economics Inc. “Even if we figure this part of it out, we are not through it.”
“At best, it may stop some of the hemorrhaging of the housing market, but it doesn’t necessarily turn things around,” said Nicolas Retsinas, director of Harvard University’s Joint Center for Housing Studies in Cambridge, Massachusetts. “The fundamental problem with housing is oversupply
December 9, 2007 at 7:44 PM #112697farbetParticipantfamous quotes from the press today
“Right now I think it takes a brave soul to buy a home because there’s so much chatter about housing prices dropping,” Toll said
The government-led initiative may “reduce the severity of the decline,” said Robert Shiller, chief economist at MacroMarkets LLC and a professor at Yale University in New Haven, Connecticut. Still, “if past cycles are a guide, we could have weak or declining markets for five to 10 years,” Shiller said.
It’ll be the biggest housing recession we’ve known,” said Allen Sinai, chief global economist at New York-based Decision Economics Inc. “Even if we figure this part of it out, we are not through it.”
“At best, it may stop some of the hemorrhaging of the housing market, but it doesn’t necessarily turn things around,” said Nicolas Retsinas, director of Harvard University’s Joint Center for Housing Studies in Cambridge, Massachusetts. “The fundamental problem with housing is oversupply
December 9, 2007 at 7:44 PM #112704farbetParticipantfamous quotes from the press today
“Right now I think it takes a brave soul to buy a home because there’s so much chatter about housing prices dropping,” Toll said
The government-led initiative may “reduce the severity of the decline,” said Robert Shiller, chief economist at MacroMarkets LLC and a professor at Yale University in New Haven, Connecticut. Still, “if past cycles are a guide, we could have weak or declining markets for five to 10 years,” Shiller said.
It’ll be the biggest housing recession we’ve known,” said Allen Sinai, chief global economist at New York-based Decision Economics Inc. “Even if we figure this part of it out, we are not through it.”
“At best, it may stop some of the hemorrhaging of the housing market, but it doesn’t necessarily turn things around,” said Nicolas Retsinas, director of Harvard University’s Joint Center for Housing Studies in Cambridge, Massachusetts. “The fundamental problem with housing is oversupply
December 9, 2007 at 7:44 PM #112738farbetParticipantfamous quotes from the press today
“Right now I think it takes a brave soul to buy a home because there’s so much chatter about housing prices dropping,” Toll said
The government-led initiative may “reduce the severity of the decline,” said Robert Shiller, chief economist at MacroMarkets LLC and a professor at Yale University in New Haven, Connecticut. Still, “if past cycles are a guide, we could have weak or declining markets for five to 10 years,” Shiller said.
It’ll be the biggest housing recession we’ve known,” said Allen Sinai, chief global economist at New York-based Decision Economics Inc. “Even if we figure this part of it out, we are not through it.”
“At best, it may stop some of the hemorrhaging of the housing market, but it doesn’t necessarily turn things around,” said Nicolas Retsinas, director of Harvard University’s Joint Center for Housing Studies in Cambridge, Massachusetts. “The fundamental problem with housing is oversupply
December 9, 2007 at 7:45 PM #1125504plexownerParticipantThe savings and loan bailout was petty cash compared to today’s crisis
There are at least $450 trillion dollars worth of derivatives floating around the planet right now – some portion of this paper mountain is currently shaking and bankers and politicians are running scared as a result
We are currently only hearing about the $20 trillion dollars worth of derivatives written on top of mortgage debt (MBS, CDOs, etc) – we don’t know if the fear being displayed by our ‘leaders’ is only caused by the $20 trillion or if they are reacting to something bigger that we aren’t aware of yet
All of the same financial games were played with derivatives written against auto loans and credit card debt and who knows what else – some analysts think we will start hearing about the collapse of derivatives based on auto loans and credit card debt very soon since late payments and defaults are increasing with both those categories of debt – perhaps we will have a freeze on credit card payments and a moratorium on auto repossessions in 2008?
Ultimately, this whole $450+ trillion mountain of derivatives will have to be marked down to some value that is much, much lower than today – 20 to 30 cents on the dollar seems to be the current value of an MBS – the next few years are certain to be interesting
December 9, 2007 at 7:45 PM #1126654plexownerParticipantThe savings and loan bailout was petty cash compared to today’s crisis
There are at least $450 trillion dollars worth of derivatives floating around the planet right now – some portion of this paper mountain is currently shaking and bankers and politicians are running scared as a result
We are currently only hearing about the $20 trillion dollars worth of derivatives written on top of mortgage debt (MBS, CDOs, etc) – we don’t know if the fear being displayed by our ‘leaders’ is only caused by the $20 trillion or if they are reacting to something bigger that we aren’t aware of yet
All of the same financial games were played with derivatives written against auto loans and credit card debt and who knows what else – some analysts think we will start hearing about the collapse of derivatives based on auto loans and credit card debt very soon since late payments and defaults are increasing with both those categories of debt – perhaps we will have a freeze on credit card payments and a moratorium on auto repossessions in 2008?
Ultimately, this whole $450+ trillion mountain of derivatives will have to be marked down to some value that is much, much lower than today – 20 to 30 cents on the dollar seems to be the current value of an MBS – the next few years are certain to be interesting
December 9, 2007 at 7:45 PM #1127054plexownerParticipantThe savings and loan bailout was petty cash compared to today’s crisis
There are at least $450 trillion dollars worth of derivatives floating around the planet right now – some portion of this paper mountain is currently shaking and bankers and politicians are running scared as a result
We are currently only hearing about the $20 trillion dollars worth of derivatives written on top of mortgage debt (MBS, CDOs, etc) – we don’t know if the fear being displayed by our ‘leaders’ is only caused by the $20 trillion or if they are reacting to something bigger that we aren’t aware of yet
All of the same financial games were played with derivatives written against auto loans and credit card debt and who knows what else – some analysts think we will start hearing about the collapse of derivatives based on auto loans and credit card debt very soon since late payments and defaults are increasing with both those categories of debt – perhaps we will have a freeze on credit card payments and a moratorium on auto repossessions in 2008?
Ultimately, this whole $450+ trillion mountain of derivatives will have to be marked down to some value that is much, much lower than today – 20 to 30 cents on the dollar seems to be the current value of an MBS – the next few years are certain to be interesting
December 9, 2007 at 7:45 PM #1127144plexownerParticipantThe savings and loan bailout was petty cash compared to today’s crisis
There are at least $450 trillion dollars worth of derivatives floating around the planet right now – some portion of this paper mountain is currently shaking and bankers and politicians are running scared as a result
We are currently only hearing about the $20 trillion dollars worth of derivatives written on top of mortgage debt (MBS, CDOs, etc) – we don’t know if the fear being displayed by our ‘leaders’ is only caused by the $20 trillion or if they are reacting to something bigger that we aren’t aware of yet
All of the same financial games were played with derivatives written against auto loans and credit card debt and who knows what else – some analysts think we will start hearing about the collapse of derivatives based on auto loans and credit card debt very soon since late payments and defaults are increasing with both those categories of debt – perhaps we will have a freeze on credit card payments and a moratorium on auto repossessions in 2008?
Ultimately, this whole $450+ trillion mountain of derivatives will have to be marked down to some value that is much, much lower than today – 20 to 30 cents on the dollar seems to be the current value of an MBS – the next few years are certain to be interesting
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