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December 11, 2013 at 6:19 PM #768982December 11, 2013 at 6:46 PM #768983spdrunParticipant
It’s also a philosophy of deep (stupid?) pessimism. Let’s throw everything out, house, spouse, and all, because things will never turn around and get better.
Instead of renting out some rooms, going minimalist, and holding out for better times.
December 11, 2013 at 7:30 PM #768984scaredyclassicParticipantEven at the end she’s taking them out to taco bell cause she can’t afford islands. Why not spaghetti?
It’s difficult for me not to impose my own sense of how I’d react. Maybe this is the ultimate endgame of “shop till you drop”
December 11, 2013 at 8:02 PM #768985njtosdParticipant[quote=ocrenter]
#6. Her chubbiness and the kids’ chubby ways. Did you see her using her EBT card to buy sugary drinks and processed food??? Of course still likely without insurance and we’ll have to pay for their health care costs down the road.[/quote]I believe there is another thread that dealt with this issue pretty extensively. However, her (their) bad “life habits” may not ever cost anyone a dime – whereas his impulsive choice to take off, uninsured, on a motorcycle on unfamiliar roads at night for a “little trip” cost hundreds of thousands. Unless we can penalize people for all of their bad choices that lead to health problems, I don’t think focusing on the standard litany of smoking, drinking and eating is fair. In fact, insurance was designed to spread the burden across society, but that doesn’t seem to be the way we’re going.
December 11, 2013 at 8:44 PM #768988AnonymousGuest[quote=6packscaredy]Even at the end she’s taking them out to taco bell cause she can’t afford islands. Why not spaghetti?[/quote]
I wouldn’t read too much into the details.
Most everything people say on these shows is scripted.
December 11, 2013 at 8:49 PM #768989njtosdParticipant[quote=flu]So side question.
If people are anti-investing (which a lot of that seems to be the case even on piggington), what’s the alternative for people like this who depend on back-breaking self-employed labor and now are older and probably can’t do the samething anymore?
Some people, if they are wiped out with the savings/investings have the option of going back to work and rebuilding even if they are older…
In this particular situation, this person counted on his job as a contractor, didn’t save/invest. Can he reasonably “go back to work” in what he is doing, given his current age and physical condition? What options does he have?[/quote]In his case, not a lot judging from his listing on Linkedin. He appears to be attempting to put together a website for victims of motorcycle accidents and pursuing his old business. But, frankly, between his history and the information that he has entered there (lots of errors in terms of punctuation and grammar, etc.) it’s not going to go well. In terms of people like him, they have to realize when they are young that (1) they can’t do physical labor forever, and (2) businesses fail for all kinds of unpredictable reasons (look at Proformance Apparel and Leucadia Pizzeria who were the victims of embezzlement). People in his position need to gain experience or education in an area that is in demand, or run the risk of disaster.
December 11, 2013 at 8:56 PM #768991scaredyclassicParticipantI’m reading a book (out loud with my wife at bedtime) called the watchmakers daughter. It’s a truly laugh out loud comical memoir about growing up with 2 holocaust survivor parents.
The dad was a watchmaker who survived the death camps repairing Nazi watches while other Jewish lawyers and doctors were gassed.Good point there; true unique skills can carry you a long way. I think I should learn something. BButwhat?
December 11, 2013 at 8:57 PM #768990spdrunParticipantAs far as point (1), he at least used to have employees, so he knows to hire others to do the heavy lifting.
December 12, 2013 at 10:46 AM #768998CoronitaParticipant[quote=6packscaredy]I’m reading a book (out loud with my wife at bedtime) called the watchmakers daughter. It’s a truly laugh out loud comical memoir about growing up with 2 holocaust survivor parents.
The dad was a watchmaker who survived the death camps repairing Nazi watches while other Jewish lawyers and doctors were gassed.Good point there; true unique skills can carry you a long way. I think I should learn something. BButwhat?[/quote]
Well as a lawyer you can safely practice all the way until you start needing to wear Depends garments…
Mobile enginerds will probably get brain tumors by the time we’re that age…
December 12, 2013 at 10:52 AM #768999spdrunParticipantSadly, lawyers qualify as part of the intelligentsia, so they’d probably be first to be sent to a camp or shot if it came to dictatorship. OTOH, enginerds are too valuable to a war/surveillance machine to not be used — they may end up working in a “sharashka.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharashka
My advice: it hasn’t happened in the US for 200+ years, and it’s unlikely to happen. If it does, have enough capital to get out of Dodge. If you end up waiting tables in a cafe in a foreign city, it’s still better than death or imprisonment.
December 12, 2013 at 11:02 AM #769001scaredyclassicParticipantI don’t see why a mere diaper should interrupt my legal career.
In terms of skills though, layering has a useless feel during regime change by I ts very nature.
December 12, 2013 at 1:06 PM #769010no_such_realityParticipant[quote=6packscaredy]I don’t see why a mere diaper should interrupt my legal career.
In terms of skills though, layering has a useless feel during regime change by I ts very nature.[/quote]
LOL, the most effective coups are the legal ones. Venezuela comes to mind.
December 13, 2013 at 12:58 AM #769043CA renterParticipant[quote=6packscaredy]i finished the video. it made me so sad … it just has the feeling of fakeness. perhaps that feeling of inauthenticity is what compelled him to buy genuine boulders for his pool. there was just too much pretend. i don’t know what the answer is. it just fills me with a sense of despair.
perhaps all relationships are to some degree like this. we only love other people for how they make us feel, for what they can do for us. Perhaps love has no independent basis, nothing other than the meals we share, the physicality of what we do for one another. my kid was saying thatpa, I love you because you are good to me. on the one hand, it is true, and perhaps inevitable, thatwe love others for impure worldly reasons. But we like to beleive that there is something more, something deeper, or more spiritual, something more “real”.
i don’t know if there is anything more real. but it seems like there’s got to be a more real commitment, more real appreciation for others. More profound in terms of what it means to the individual. this just seems like, fuck, if the good times contoinued to roll, there wouldve been no problem, they wouldve partied on, and there would be no issue. that’s depressing in itself. it’s all about money…
maybe all marriage is is a financial arragngement for the production and support of offspring. and everything else is the story we tell to keep it all together…
we can call this philosophy, “Sadowskiism.” or “brutal realism” if you’re so inclined.
does it really make sense from a survival viewpt for mrs sadowski to stand by her man? his prospects are not good. she’s a bit over the hill but might be able to land an older fellow with some assets. if this were the animal kingdom, i’d say she’d best be served by looking for another provider and protector…[/quote]
The fact that Mrs. Sadowski wanted to leave her husband the moment he stopped being a “good provider” disturbed me, too. I was thinking that there had to be something more to it, though. The fact that he bought a motorcycle without her input (and hid it, probably with other stuff, in a “secret” storage unit) indicates that he is very dishonest, deceptive, and conniving. Personally, I would never leave my husband because his job prospects were poor, but I’d leave in an instant if I discovered he was lying about fairly big issues. Trust is too important in a marriage…far more important than whether or not someone is a “good provider,” IMHO.
Mrs. Sadowski, if she’s like most any other woman, would probably start wondering about other things that her husband was hiding after she found out about the motorcycle. Deceptive liars tend to be that way about more than one thing. What other things, or people, might he be lying about?
If you think about it that way, she doesn’t come across as an uncaring and materialistic b-word.
December 13, 2013 at 7:46 AM #769046scaredyclassicParticipantA guy really does need more than 1 type motorcycle.
December 13, 2013 at 7:47 AM #769047scaredyclassicParticipantAs secrets go it may be the tip of the iceberg. But if it’s not it doesn’t seem that crazy since they were s pending loosely
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