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March 12, 2011 at 6:43 AM #677456March 12, 2011 at 3:35 PM #676419ocrenterParticipant
[quote=CA renter][quote=AN]I hate those type of houses and would never buy them. They also seem to be very tightly packed together too.[/quote]
Could not agree more.
We would not live in one of those sardine cans, even if we could get it for free. The whole point of buying a SFH is to have a yard and private space.
Those “courtyards” are maybe acceptable for storing a BBQ, but nothing else.
It is all about maximizing profits for the builders/developers. Hopefully, more buyers will turn their noses up at these disasters so that builders never attempt to force them on us, again.[/quote]
this price segment was a disaster in the 80’s/90’s with extremely close zero-lot-line garages with homes attached with almost no driveways and minimal curbside. this ended up creating neighborhoods with chronic parking problems that always look very crowded.
I’m glad the builders put in some innovative efforts and revamped this whole segment.
my feeling after living in both the updated ’00 variety with the backloading garages as well as the ’80-’90 variety with front loading garages but no driveway and minimal curbs, the updated backloading variety definitely wins and will also age a lot better.
and compared to attached townhomes, this is still way better.
March 12, 2011 at 3:35 PM #676476ocrenterParticipant[quote=CA renter][quote=AN]I hate those type of houses and would never buy them. They also seem to be very tightly packed together too.[/quote]
Could not agree more.
We would not live in one of those sardine cans, even if we could get it for free. The whole point of buying a SFH is to have a yard and private space.
Those “courtyards” are maybe acceptable for storing a BBQ, but nothing else.
It is all about maximizing profits for the builders/developers. Hopefully, more buyers will turn their noses up at these disasters so that builders never attempt to force them on us, again.[/quote]
this price segment was a disaster in the 80’s/90’s with extremely close zero-lot-line garages with homes attached with almost no driveways and minimal curbside. this ended up creating neighborhoods with chronic parking problems that always look very crowded.
I’m glad the builders put in some innovative efforts and revamped this whole segment.
my feeling after living in both the updated ’00 variety with the backloading garages as well as the ’80-’90 variety with front loading garages but no driveway and minimal curbs, the updated backloading variety definitely wins and will also age a lot better.
and compared to attached townhomes, this is still way better.
March 12, 2011 at 3:35 PM #677085ocrenterParticipant[quote=CA renter][quote=AN]I hate those type of houses and would never buy them. They also seem to be very tightly packed together too.[/quote]
Could not agree more.
We would not live in one of those sardine cans, even if we could get it for free. The whole point of buying a SFH is to have a yard and private space.
Those “courtyards” are maybe acceptable for storing a BBQ, but nothing else.
It is all about maximizing profits for the builders/developers. Hopefully, more buyers will turn their noses up at these disasters so that builders never attempt to force them on us, again.[/quote]
this price segment was a disaster in the 80’s/90’s with extremely close zero-lot-line garages with homes attached with almost no driveways and minimal curbside. this ended up creating neighborhoods with chronic parking problems that always look very crowded.
I’m glad the builders put in some innovative efforts and revamped this whole segment.
my feeling after living in both the updated ’00 variety with the backloading garages as well as the ’80-’90 variety with front loading garages but no driveway and minimal curbs, the updated backloading variety definitely wins and will also age a lot better.
and compared to attached townhomes, this is still way better.
March 12, 2011 at 3:35 PM #677220ocrenterParticipant[quote=CA renter][quote=AN]I hate those type of houses and would never buy them. They also seem to be very tightly packed together too.[/quote]
Could not agree more.
We would not live in one of those sardine cans, even if we could get it for free. The whole point of buying a SFH is to have a yard and private space.
Those “courtyards” are maybe acceptable for storing a BBQ, but nothing else.
It is all about maximizing profits for the builders/developers. Hopefully, more buyers will turn their noses up at these disasters so that builders never attempt to force them on us, again.[/quote]
this price segment was a disaster in the 80’s/90’s with extremely close zero-lot-line garages with homes attached with almost no driveways and minimal curbside. this ended up creating neighborhoods with chronic parking problems that always look very crowded.
I’m glad the builders put in some innovative efforts and revamped this whole segment.
my feeling after living in both the updated ’00 variety with the backloading garages as well as the ’80-’90 variety with front loading garages but no driveway and minimal curbs, the updated backloading variety definitely wins and will also age a lot better.
and compared to attached townhomes, this is still way better.
March 12, 2011 at 3:35 PM #677570ocrenterParticipant[quote=CA renter][quote=AN]I hate those type of houses and would never buy them. They also seem to be very tightly packed together too.[/quote]
Could not agree more.
We would not live in one of those sardine cans, even if we could get it for free. The whole point of buying a SFH is to have a yard and private space.
Those “courtyards” are maybe acceptable for storing a BBQ, but nothing else.
It is all about maximizing profits for the builders/developers. Hopefully, more buyers will turn their noses up at these disasters so that builders never attempt to force them on us, again.[/quote]
this price segment was a disaster in the 80’s/90’s with extremely close zero-lot-line garages with homes attached with almost no driveways and minimal curbside. this ended up creating neighborhoods with chronic parking problems that always look very crowded.
I’m glad the builders put in some innovative efforts and revamped this whole segment.
my feeling after living in both the updated ’00 variety with the backloading garages as well as the ’80-’90 variety with front loading garages but no driveway and minimal curbs, the updated backloading variety definitely wins and will also age a lot better.
and compared to attached townhomes, this is still way better.
March 12, 2011 at 10:01 PM #676504anParticipant[quote=sdrealtor]Clearly not for you but they are for some folks who dont share your need for a big lot but want a newer house. Or those that cant afford the house on the big lot. They fill a niche between an attached townhouse and more typical SFR. While not for me, I am glad that option is out there for people that it works for.[/quote]
Oh, I have no doubt that a lot of people don’t care too much about lot size. That’s why Maybeck in 4S can sell at almost comparable price to other 4S houses with a backyard. I was just saying it wasn’t for me and I would never buy such a house.ocrenter, I also prefer these type of houses over the detached condo with front facing garage as well. However, if given a choice, I’d rather choose a smaller house with a front and back yard and a front facing garage on a similar lot size.
March 12, 2011 at 10:01 PM #676560anParticipant[quote=sdrealtor]Clearly not for you but they are for some folks who dont share your need for a big lot but want a newer house. Or those that cant afford the house on the big lot. They fill a niche between an attached townhouse and more typical SFR. While not for me, I am glad that option is out there for people that it works for.[/quote]
Oh, I have no doubt that a lot of people don’t care too much about lot size. That’s why Maybeck in 4S can sell at almost comparable price to other 4S houses with a backyard. I was just saying it wasn’t for me and I would never buy such a house.ocrenter, I also prefer these type of houses over the detached condo with front facing garage as well. However, if given a choice, I’d rather choose a smaller house with a front and back yard and a front facing garage on a similar lot size.
March 12, 2011 at 10:01 PM #677168anParticipant[quote=sdrealtor]Clearly not for you but they are for some folks who dont share your need for a big lot but want a newer house. Or those that cant afford the house on the big lot. They fill a niche between an attached townhouse and more typical SFR. While not for me, I am glad that option is out there for people that it works for.[/quote]
Oh, I have no doubt that a lot of people don’t care too much about lot size. That’s why Maybeck in 4S can sell at almost comparable price to other 4S houses with a backyard. I was just saying it wasn’t for me and I would never buy such a house.ocrenter, I also prefer these type of houses over the detached condo with front facing garage as well. However, if given a choice, I’d rather choose a smaller house with a front and back yard and a front facing garage on a similar lot size.
March 12, 2011 at 10:01 PM #677305anParticipant[quote=sdrealtor]Clearly not for you but they are for some folks who dont share your need for a big lot but want a newer house. Or those that cant afford the house on the big lot. They fill a niche between an attached townhouse and more typical SFR. While not for me, I am glad that option is out there for people that it works for.[/quote]
Oh, I have no doubt that a lot of people don’t care too much about lot size. That’s why Maybeck in 4S can sell at almost comparable price to other 4S houses with a backyard. I was just saying it wasn’t for me and I would never buy such a house.ocrenter, I also prefer these type of houses over the detached condo with front facing garage as well. However, if given a choice, I’d rather choose a smaller house with a front and back yard and a front facing garage on a similar lot size.
March 12, 2011 at 10:01 PM #677655anParticipant[quote=sdrealtor]Clearly not for you but they are for some folks who dont share your need for a big lot but want a newer house. Or those that cant afford the house on the big lot. They fill a niche between an attached townhouse and more typical SFR. While not for me, I am glad that option is out there for people that it works for.[/quote]
Oh, I have no doubt that a lot of people don’t care too much about lot size. That’s why Maybeck in 4S can sell at almost comparable price to other 4S houses with a backyard. I was just saying it wasn’t for me and I would never buy such a house.ocrenter, I also prefer these type of houses over the detached condo with front facing garage as well. However, if given a choice, I’d rather choose a smaller house with a front and back yard and a front facing garage on a similar lot size.
March 13, 2011 at 7:22 AM #676534ocrenterParticipant[quote=AN]
ocrenter, I also prefer these type of houses over the detached condo with front facing garage as well. However, if given a choice, I’d rather choose a smaller house with a front and back yard and a front facing garage on a similar lot size.[/quote]
the problem with that is the value of the house is largely sqft and # of room driven, the size of the lot plays a lesser role in general. therefore it is to the builder’s advantage to maximize sqft on a given lot size.
I think we will see more of these backloaders in general.
March 13, 2011 at 7:22 AM #676589ocrenterParticipant[quote=AN]
ocrenter, I also prefer these type of houses over the detached condo with front facing garage as well. However, if given a choice, I’d rather choose a smaller house with a front and back yard and a front facing garage on a similar lot size.[/quote]
the problem with that is the value of the house is largely sqft and # of room driven, the size of the lot plays a lesser role in general. therefore it is to the builder’s advantage to maximize sqft on a given lot size.
I think we will see more of these backloaders in general.
March 13, 2011 at 7:22 AM #677198ocrenterParticipant[quote=AN]
ocrenter, I also prefer these type of houses over the detached condo with front facing garage as well. However, if given a choice, I’d rather choose a smaller house with a front and back yard and a front facing garage on a similar lot size.[/quote]
the problem with that is the value of the house is largely sqft and # of room driven, the size of the lot plays a lesser role in general. therefore it is to the builder’s advantage to maximize sqft on a given lot size.
I think we will see more of these backloaders in general.
March 13, 2011 at 7:22 AM #677335ocrenterParticipant[quote=AN]
ocrenter, I also prefer these type of houses over the detached condo with front facing garage as well. However, if given a choice, I’d rather choose a smaller house with a front and back yard and a front facing garage on a similar lot size.[/quote]
the problem with that is the value of the house is largely sqft and # of room driven, the size of the lot plays a lesser role in general. therefore it is to the builder’s advantage to maximize sqft on a given lot size.
I think we will see more of these backloaders in general.
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