The movie 21 Please explain the math.

[Anonymous]

Right, I understand it better now. If the host picks the door knowing there is a goat behind it, you are better off changing your mind. If the door(s) with goats are opened through random activity, then your chances are 50/50… meaning my original example is simply a matter of random revelation…

But what is the systematic, or even metaphysical, implications when one is better off making selections where knowledge (or perhaps truth-selection) is simply -merely- involved? Such is the case when the host, a knowledgeable system, is involved.

[Rockemsock]

But what if you have determined that the goat is a better prize than the car because the high cost of gas and the incredibly eco-friendly and sustainable milk supply in the goat make it the better choice?

So then the odds of getting the goat would be 66% if you DON’T switch.

[Rockemsock]

But what if you have determined that the goat is a better prize than the car because the high cost of gas and the incredibly eco-friendly and sustainable milk supply in the goat make it the better choice?

So then the odds of getting the goat would be 66% if you DON’T switch.

[Rockemsock]

But what if you have determined that the goat is a better prize than the car because the high cost of gas and the incredibly eco-friendly and sustainable milk supply in the goat make it the better choice?

So then the odds of getting the goat would be 66% if you DON’T switch.

[Rockemsock]

But what if you have determined that the goat is a better prize than the car because the high cost of gas and the incredibly eco-friendly and sustainable milk supply in the goat make it the better choice?

So then the odds of getting the goat would be 66% if you DON’T switch.

[Rockemsock]

But what if you have determined that the goat is a better prize than the car because the high cost of gas and the incredibly eco-friendly and sustainable milk supply in the goat make it the better choice?

So then the odds of getting the goat would be 66% if you DON’T switch.

[sdduuuude]

[quote=Neveov]I believe the oddity comes, not from the elimination in all cases of the sort, but only in the case of the knowledgeable “host” entity performing the elimination process.[/quote]

That is exactly right. I remember exacly the words my professor used (with a pretty thick Asian accent) “We have new information!” And that new information comes from the host who gets to make a decision based on what he sees and what we don’t.

vegas – glad to see you come around.

I consider this problem more of a personality test than an IQ test. Very few people understand it intuitively, but people who are patient, who strive for the truth, who are humble enough to admit they were wrong, and have good instincts about who knows what the hell they are talking about can come around.

[sdduuuude]

[quote=Neveov]I believe the oddity comes, not from the elimination in all cases of the sort, but only in the case of the knowledgeable “host” entity performing the elimination process.[/quote]

That is exactly right. I remember exacly the words my professor used (with a pretty thick Asian accent) “We have new information!” And that new information comes from the host who gets to make a decision based on what he sees and what we don’t.

vegas – glad to see you come around.

I consider this problem more of a personality test than an IQ test. Very few people understand it intuitively, but people who are patient, who strive for the truth, who are humble enough to admit they were wrong, and have good instincts about who knows what the hell they are talking about can come around.

[sdduuuude]

[quote=Neveov]I believe the oddity comes, not from the elimination in all cases of the sort, but only in the case of the knowledgeable “host” entity performing the elimination process.[/quote]

That is exactly right. I remember exacly the words my professor used (with a pretty thick Asian accent) “We have new information!” And that new information comes from the host who gets to make a decision based on what he sees and what we don’t.

vegas – glad to see you come around.

I consider this problem more of a personality test than an IQ test. Very few people understand it intuitively, but people who are patient, who strive for the truth, who are humble enough to admit they were wrong, and have good instincts about who knows what the hell they are talking about can come around.

[sdduuuude]

[quote=Neveov]I believe the oddity comes, not from the elimination in all cases of the sort, but only in the case of the knowledgeable “host” entity performing the elimination process.[/quote]

That is exactly right. I remember exacly the words my professor used (with a pretty thick Asian accent) “We have new information!” And that new information comes from the host who gets to make a decision based on what he sees and what we don’t.

vegas – glad to see you come around.

I consider this problem more of a personality test than an IQ test. Very few people understand it intuitively, but people who are patient, who strive for the truth, who are humble enough to admit they were wrong, and have good instincts about who knows what the hell they are talking about can come around.

[sdduuuude]

[quote=Neveov]I believe the oddity comes, not from the elimination in all cases of the sort, but only in the case of the knowledgeable “host” entity performing the elimination process.[/quote]

That is exactly right. I remember exacly the words my professor used (with a pretty thick Asian accent) “We have new information!” And that new information comes from the host who gets to make a decision based on what he sees and what we don’t.

vegas – glad to see you come around.

I consider this problem more of a personality test than an IQ test. Very few people understand it intuitively, but people who are patient, who strive for the truth, who are humble enough to admit they were wrong, and have good instincts about who knows what the hell they are talking about can come around.

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