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March 11, 2008 at 7:43 PM #12074
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March 11, 2008 at 7:48 PM #167794
luxuryglow
ParticipantHow long will this last?
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March 11, 2008 at 7:48 PM #168121
luxuryglow
ParticipantHow long will this last?
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March 11, 2008 at 7:48 PM #168124
luxuryglow
ParticipantHow long will this last?
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March 11, 2008 at 7:48 PM #168154
luxuryglow
ParticipantHow long will this last?
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March 11, 2008 at 7:48 PM #168223
luxuryglow
ParticipantHow long will this last?
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March 11, 2008 at 8:01 PM #167799
CAwireman
Participant“How long will this last?”
Until the Fed runs out of money?
HiggyBaby
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March 11, 2008 at 8:10 PM #167804
hipmatt
ParticipantThe fed is out of money, at this point they are just printing new money that will likely NEVER get repaid back. This won’t solve any problems at all, just create new ones like inflation and the increase in the cost of living.
Ron Paul summarizes it very well.
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March 11, 2008 at 8:10 PM #168131
hipmatt
ParticipantThe fed is out of money, at this point they are just printing new money that will likely NEVER get repaid back. This won’t solve any problems at all, just create new ones like inflation and the increase in the cost of living.
Ron Paul summarizes it very well.
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March 11, 2008 at 8:10 PM #168134
hipmatt
ParticipantThe fed is out of money, at this point they are just printing new money that will likely NEVER get repaid back. This won’t solve any problems at all, just create new ones like inflation and the increase in the cost of living.
Ron Paul summarizes it very well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHKF0hcF5hs -
March 11, 2008 at 8:10 PM #168164
hipmatt
ParticipantThe fed is out of money, at this point they are just printing new money that will likely NEVER get repaid back. This won’t solve any problems at all, just create new ones like inflation and the increase in the cost of living.
Ron Paul summarizes it very well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHKF0hcF5hs -
March 11, 2008 at 8:10 PM #168233
hipmatt
ParticipantThe fed is out of money, at this point they are just printing new money that will likely NEVER get repaid back. This won’t solve any problems at all, just create new ones like inflation and the increase in the cost of living.
Ron Paul summarizes it very well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHKF0hcF5hs
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March 11, 2008 at 8:01 PM #168126
CAwireman
Participant“How long will this last?”
Until the Fed runs out of money?
HiggyBaby
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March 11, 2008 at 8:01 PM #168129
CAwireman
Participant“How long will this last?”
Until the Fed runs out of money?
HiggyBaby
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March 11, 2008 at 8:01 PM #168159
CAwireman
Participant“How long will this last?”
Until the Fed runs out of money?
HiggyBaby
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March 11, 2008 at 8:01 PM #168228
CAwireman
Participant“How long will this last?”
Until the Fed runs out of money?
HiggyBaby
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March 11, 2008 at 8:23 PM #167819
CAwireman
ParticipantNice Utube interview
“All the country’s are willing to debase their currencys…”
Ron PaulThat says it all!
HiggyBaby
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March 11, 2008 at 10:28 PM #167864
Deal Hunter
ParticipantAs long as there are tax payers the FED will never run out of money. They print it and hand it out and tax payers pay the interest on it. The $200 billion is in the form of T-bills and bank entry credit (which is the same thing).
The FED is not taking bad loans off the bank’s books (that is totally inaccurate). They are creating a market for subprime based derivatives. Since no one is buying these loan based investment products on the secondary market anymore, they announced that Investment banks could use their inventory of subprime mortgages as collateral for credit/cash.
In other words, since no investors would continue to buy these derivative products, they created a way for tax payers to buy them instead – hoping it would unplug the credit blockage.
This should enrage all tax payers since the FED is not a government agency answerable to tax payers. What right do they have to pledge our full faith and credit in this manner? Oh yeah, The Federal Reserve Act of 1914.
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March 11, 2008 at 10:54 PM #167874
patientlywaiting
ParticipantCould it be because Wall Street is celebrating Spitzer’s downfall? What’s the big deal anyway? An escort is a lot cheaper than a mistress.
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March 12, 2008 at 5:47 AM #167929
Chris Scoreboard Johnston
ParticipantMy condolences to the people in here following a day like that, you must really hate these types of days. Maybe this will lead you to study what really drives the markets, and get off your arbitrary opinions which do not correlate at all to the real forces behind market moves?
One day does not a low make, but this should alert you to why this market is close to launching upward. If not that is your own fault.
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March 12, 2008 at 6:13 AM #167934
LA_Renter
ParticipantIf you ask me yesterday was a classic textbook example of a short squeeze. There has been a very large amount of short interest in the market. Bear market rallies are to be expected in bear markets. They usually come in the form of violent upswings. Remember the 600 point advance (in one day) off the low in Jan. This last rally is the same one we have seen about 50 times in the last 9 months. Since they can’t use saving AMBAC as an excuse any more, they had to come up with something new…i.e. $200 Billion in Fed lending against junk paper. I could be wrong as the markets are oh so humbling to us all but i don’t see an inflection point here just yet. The S&P is still forecasting 20% growth in earnings during the second half of 08, I ain’t buying that. I hope this rally has some strong legs because I have my eye on several puts that are looking cheap in sectors that I follow. I will say this the juice on the downside will only get less and less as time passes. it’s just my opinion that there is going to be a more significant low during 2008. We will see good luck to all.
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March 14, 2008 at 7:38 AM #169322
LA_Renter
ParticipantI don’ t think Bear Stearns basically admitting they are insolvent is such a big deal. It’s just a flesh wound. It’s stuff like this that keeps me bearish on the market. It is very simple really, there is just way too much bad paper floating around out there and the source of that bad paper (housing bust) shows no signs of a bottom. The FED only has so many bullets they can shoot here and they are running low. There are going to be more Bear Stearns before this is all over, and the Govt will step in with a massive bailout. This is truly getting scary.
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March 14, 2008 at 7:38 AM #169653
LA_Renter
ParticipantI don’ t think Bear Stearns basically admitting they are insolvent is such a big deal. It’s just a flesh wound. It’s stuff like this that keeps me bearish on the market. It is very simple really, there is just way too much bad paper floating around out there and the source of that bad paper (housing bust) shows no signs of a bottom. The FED only has so many bullets they can shoot here and they are running low. There are going to be more Bear Stearns before this is all over, and the Govt will step in with a massive bailout. This is truly getting scary.
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March 14, 2008 at 7:38 AM #169659
LA_Renter
ParticipantI don’ t think Bear Stearns basically admitting they are insolvent is such a big deal. It’s just a flesh wound. It’s stuff like this that keeps me bearish on the market. It is very simple really, there is just way too much bad paper floating around out there and the source of that bad paper (housing bust) shows no signs of a bottom. The FED only has so many bullets they can shoot here and they are running low. There are going to be more Bear Stearns before this is all over, and the Govt will step in with a massive bailout. This is truly getting scary.
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March 14, 2008 at 7:38 AM #169680
LA_Renter
ParticipantI don’ t think Bear Stearns basically admitting they are insolvent is such a big deal. It’s just a flesh wound. It’s stuff like this that keeps me bearish on the market. It is very simple really, there is just way too much bad paper floating around out there and the source of that bad paper (housing bust) shows no signs of a bottom. The FED only has so many bullets they can shoot here and they are running low. There are going to be more Bear Stearns before this is all over, and the Govt will step in with a massive bailout. This is truly getting scary.
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March 14, 2008 at 7:38 AM #169757
LA_Renter
ParticipantI don’ t think Bear Stearns basically admitting they are insolvent is such a big deal. It’s just a flesh wound. It’s stuff like this that keeps me bearish on the market. It is very simple really, there is just way too much bad paper floating around out there and the source of that bad paper (housing bust) shows no signs of a bottom. The FED only has so many bullets they can shoot here and they are running low. There are going to be more Bear Stearns before this is all over, and the Govt will step in with a massive bailout. This is truly getting scary.
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March 12, 2008 at 6:13 AM #168262
LA_Renter
ParticipantIf you ask me yesterday was a classic textbook example of a short squeeze. There has been a very large amount of short interest in the market. Bear market rallies are to be expected in bear markets. They usually come in the form of violent upswings. Remember the 600 point advance (in one day) off the low in Jan. This last rally is the same one we have seen about 50 times in the last 9 months. Since they can’t use saving AMBAC as an excuse any more, they had to come up with something new…i.e. $200 Billion in Fed lending against junk paper. I could be wrong as the markets are oh so humbling to us all but i don’t see an inflection point here just yet. The S&P is still forecasting 20% growth in earnings during the second half of 08, I ain’t buying that. I hope this rally has some strong legs because I have my eye on several puts that are looking cheap in sectors that I follow. I will say this the juice on the downside will only get less and less as time passes. it’s just my opinion that there is going to be a more significant low during 2008. We will see good luck to all.
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March 12, 2008 at 6:13 AM #168267
LA_Renter
ParticipantIf you ask me yesterday was a classic textbook example of a short squeeze. There has been a very large amount of short interest in the market. Bear market rallies are to be expected in bear markets. They usually come in the form of violent upswings. Remember the 600 point advance (in one day) off the low in Jan. This last rally is the same one we have seen about 50 times in the last 9 months. Since they can’t use saving AMBAC as an excuse any more, they had to come up with something new…i.e. $200 Billion in Fed lending against junk paper. I could be wrong as the markets are oh so humbling to us all but i don’t see an inflection point here just yet. The S&P is still forecasting 20% growth in earnings during the second half of 08, I ain’t buying that. I hope this rally has some strong legs because I have my eye on several puts that are looking cheap in sectors that I follow. I will say this the juice on the downside will only get less and less as time passes. it’s just my opinion that there is going to be a more significant low during 2008. We will see good luck to all.
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March 12, 2008 at 6:13 AM #168294
LA_Renter
ParticipantIf you ask me yesterday was a classic textbook example of a short squeeze. There has been a very large amount of short interest in the market. Bear market rallies are to be expected in bear markets. They usually come in the form of violent upswings. Remember the 600 point advance (in one day) off the low in Jan. This last rally is the same one we have seen about 50 times in the last 9 months. Since they can’t use saving AMBAC as an excuse any more, they had to come up with something new…i.e. $200 Billion in Fed lending against junk paper. I could be wrong as the markets are oh so humbling to us all but i don’t see an inflection point here just yet. The S&P is still forecasting 20% growth in earnings during the second half of 08, I ain’t buying that. I hope this rally has some strong legs because I have my eye on several puts that are looking cheap in sectors that I follow. I will say this the juice on the downside will only get less and less as time passes. it’s just my opinion that there is going to be a more significant low during 2008. We will see good luck to all.
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March 12, 2008 at 6:13 AM #168363
LA_Renter
ParticipantIf you ask me yesterday was a classic textbook example of a short squeeze. There has been a very large amount of short interest in the market. Bear market rallies are to be expected in bear markets. They usually come in the form of violent upswings. Remember the 600 point advance (in one day) off the low in Jan. This last rally is the same one we have seen about 50 times in the last 9 months. Since they can’t use saving AMBAC as an excuse any more, they had to come up with something new…i.e. $200 Billion in Fed lending against junk paper. I could be wrong as the markets are oh so humbling to us all but i don’t see an inflection point here just yet. The S&P is still forecasting 20% growth in earnings during the second half of 08, I ain’t buying that. I hope this rally has some strong legs because I have my eye on several puts that are looking cheap in sectors that I follow. I will say this the juice on the downside will only get less and less as time passes. it’s just my opinion that there is going to be a more significant low during 2008. We will see good luck to all.
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March 12, 2008 at 5:47 AM #168257
Chris Scoreboard Johnston
ParticipantMy condolences to the people in here following a day like that, you must really hate these types of days. Maybe this will lead you to study what really drives the markets, and get off your arbitrary opinions which do not correlate at all to the real forces behind market moves?
One day does not a low make, but this should alert you to why this market is close to launching upward. If not that is your own fault.
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March 12, 2008 at 5:47 AM #168261
Chris Scoreboard Johnston
ParticipantMy condolences to the people in here following a day like that, you must really hate these types of days. Maybe this will lead you to study what really drives the markets, and get off your arbitrary opinions which do not correlate at all to the real forces behind market moves?
One day does not a low make, but this should alert you to why this market is close to launching upward. If not that is your own fault.
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March 12, 2008 at 5:47 AM #168289
Chris Scoreboard Johnston
ParticipantMy condolences to the people in here following a day like that, you must really hate these types of days. Maybe this will lead you to study what really drives the markets, and get off your arbitrary opinions which do not correlate at all to the real forces behind market moves?
One day does not a low make, but this should alert you to why this market is close to launching upward. If not that is your own fault.
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March 12, 2008 at 5:47 AM #168358
Chris Scoreboard Johnston
ParticipantMy condolences to the people in here following a day like that, you must really hate these types of days. Maybe this will lead you to study what really drives the markets, and get off your arbitrary opinions which do not correlate at all to the real forces behind market moves?
One day does not a low make, but this should alert you to why this market is close to launching upward. If not that is your own fault.
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March 11, 2008 at 10:54 PM #168200
patientlywaiting
ParticipantCould it be because Wall Street is celebrating Spitzer’s downfall? What’s the big deal anyway? An escort is a lot cheaper than a mistress.
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March 11, 2008 at 10:54 PM #168207
patientlywaiting
ParticipantCould it be because Wall Street is celebrating Spitzer’s downfall? What’s the big deal anyway? An escort is a lot cheaper than a mistress.
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March 11, 2008 at 10:54 PM #168234
patientlywaiting
ParticipantCould it be because Wall Street is celebrating Spitzer’s downfall? What’s the big deal anyway? An escort is a lot cheaper than a mistress.
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March 11, 2008 at 10:54 PM #168303
patientlywaiting
ParticipantCould it be because Wall Street is celebrating Spitzer’s downfall? What’s the big deal anyway? An escort is a lot cheaper than a mistress.
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March 11, 2008 at 10:28 PM #168190
Deal Hunter
ParticipantAs long as there are tax payers the FED will never run out of money. They print it and hand it out and tax payers pay the interest on it. The $200 billion is in the form of T-bills and bank entry credit (which is the same thing).
The FED is not taking bad loans off the bank’s books (that is totally inaccurate). They are creating a market for subprime based derivatives. Since no one is buying these loan based investment products on the secondary market anymore, they announced that Investment banks could use their inventory of subprime mortgages as collateral for credit/cash.
In other words, since no investors would continue to buy these derivative products, they created a way for tax payers to buy them instead – hoping it would unplug the credit blockage.
This should enrage all tax payers since the FED is not a government agency answerable to tax payers. What right do they have to pledge our full faith and credit in this manner? Oh yeah, The Federal Reserve Act of 1914.
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March 11, 2008 at 10:28 PM #168197
Deal Hunter
ParticipantAs long as there are tax payers the FED will never run out of money. They print it and hand it out and tax payers pay the interest on it. The $200 billion is in the form of T-bills and bank entry credit (which is the same thing).
The FED is not taking bad loans off the bank’s books (that is totally inaccurate). They are creating a market for subprime based derivatives. Since no one is buying these loan based investment products on the secondary market anymore, they announced that Investment banks could use their inventory of subprime mortgages as collateral for credit/cash.
In other words, since no investors would continue to buy these derivative products, they created a way for tax payers to buy them instead – hoping it would unplug the credit blockage.
This should enrage all tax payers since the FED is not a government agency answerable to tax payers. What right do they have to pledge our full faith and credit in this manner? Oh yeah, The Federal Reserve Act of 1914.
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March 11, 2008 at 10:28 PM #168224
Deal Hunter
ParticipantAs long as there are tax payers the FED will never run out of money. They print it and hand it out and tax payers pay the interest on it. The $200 billion is in the form of T-bills and bank entry credit (which is the same thing).
The FED is not taking bad loans off the bank’s books (that is totally inaccurate). They are creating a market for subprime based derivatives. Since no one is buying these loan based investment products on the secondary market anymore, they announced that Investment banks could use their inventory of subprime mortgages as collateral for credit/cash.
In other words, since no investors would continue to buy these derivative products, they created a way for tax payers to buy them instead – hoping it would unplug the credit blockage.
This should enrage all tax payers since the FED is not a government agency answerable to tax payers. What right do they have to pledge our full faith and credit in this manner? Oh yeah, The Federal Reserve Act of 1914.
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March 11, 2008 at 10:28 PM #168293
Deal Hunter
ParticipantAs long as there are tax payers the FED will never run out of money. They print it and hand it out and tax payers pay the interest on it. The $200 billion is in the form of T-bills and bank entry credit (which is the same thing).
The FED is not taking bad loans off the bank’s books (that is totally inaccurate). They are creating a market for subprime based derivatives. Since no one is buying these loan based investment products on the secondary market anymore, they announced that Investment banks could use their inventory of subprime mortgages as collateral for credit/cash.
In other words, since no investors would continue to buy these derivative products, they created a way for tax payers to buy them instead – hoping it would unplug the credit blockage.
This should enrage all tax payers since the FED is not a government agency answerable to tax payers. What right do they have to pledge our full faith and credit in this manner? Oh yeah, The Federal Reserve Act of 1914.
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March 11, 2008 at 8:23 PM #168145
CAwireman
ParticipantNice Utube interview
“All the country’s are willing to debase their currencys…”
Ron PaulThat says it all!
HiggyBaby
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March 11, 2008 at 8:23 PM #168152
CAwireman
ParticipantNice Utube interview
“All the country’s are willing to debase their currencys…”
Ron PaulThat says it all!
HiggyBaby
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March 11, 2008 at 8:23 PM #168179
CAwireman
ParticipantNice Utube interview
“All the country’s are willing to debase their currencys…”
Ron PaulThat says it all!
HiggyBaby
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March 11, 2008 at 8:23 PM #168248
CAwireman
ParticipantNice Utube interview
“All the country’s are willing to debase their currencys…”
Ron PaulThat says it all!
HiggyBaby
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