Terrorism

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Pri: There are reports emerging that he actually did have a plan and either was in contact with al-Qaeda or attempting contact with al-Qaeda.

Following from CNN (lest I’m perceived as having a bias from the Leftists on the board):

http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2009/11/09/do-you-think-ft-hood-shootings-were-an-act-of-terrorism/

I also spoke with a former buddy of mine, who is still active RA and he indicates that there is a lot more being held back at present.

If the stated purpose of terrorism is to terrorize: Then, by definition, he’s a terrorist.

And, I couldn’t agree more about executing him. After extensively interrogating (not torturing) him, of course.

[briansd1]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Shelve your moronic partisan politics for a second [/quote]

I only said not to blame Obama because the referenced article blames Obama.

My point was that this isn’t a partisan issue.

Obama is being measured in his response just like the military is being circumspect. That response is very appropriate as the facts are still being investigated.

Obama doesn’t directly control the investigation in Texas.

[briansd1]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Shelve your moronic partisan politics for a second [/quote]

I only said not to blame Obama because the referenced article blames Obama.

My point was that this isn’t a partisan issue.

Obama is being measured in his response just like the military is being circumspect. That response is very appropriate as the facts are still being investigated.

Obama doesn’t directly control the investigation in Texas.

[briansd1]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Shelve your moronic partisan politics for a second [/quote]

I only said not to blame Obama because the referenced article blames Obama.

My point was that this isn’t a partisan issue.

Obama is being measured in his response just like the military is being circumspect. That response is very appropriate as the facts are still being investigated.

Obama doesn’t directly control the investigation in Texas.

[briansd1]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Shelve your moronic partisan politics for a second [/quote]

I only said not to blame Obama because the referenced article blames Obama.

My point was that this isn’t a partisan issue.

Obama is being measured in his response just like the military is being circumspect. That response is very appropriate as the facts are still being investigated.

Obama doesn’t directly control the investigation in Texas.

[briansd1]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Shelve your moronic partisan politics for a second [/quote]

I only said not to blame Obama because the referenced article blames Obama.

My point was that this isn’t a partisan issue.

Obama is being measured in his response just like the military is being circumspect. That response is very appropriate as the facts are still being investigated.

Obama doesn’t directly control the investigation in Texas.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=briansd1][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Shelve your moronic partisan politics for a second [/quote]

I only said not to blame Obama because the referenced article blames Obama.

My point was that this isn’t a partisan issue.

Obama is being measured in his response just like the military is being circumspect. That response is very appropriate as the facts are still being investigated.

Obama doesn’t directly control the investigation in Texas.[/quote]

Brian: Agreed on all. To blame Obama for this is asinine, obviously.

I heard quite a few people take issue with his remarks following, with the main observation that they were passionless. Having not watched, I cannot comment, but to blame him adds insult to injury.

The Army is pushing strongly to bring more Arabic speakers into the fold and is taking more of a low-key approach as a result. Also, there is apparently a good deal more to this than meets the eye and I’ve heard from two good friends who are both still in, one a LTC in the Regular Army and one a MAJ in the Reserves.

Where Hasan parts company with McVeigh is in religious denomination only. If a “White Christian” were to undertake the same action (and wasn’t McVeigh a “White Christian”), it would be terrorism as well.

Cheap partisanship and shrill rhetoric at this accomplish nothing.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=briansd1][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Shelve your moronic partisan politics for a second [/quote]

I only said not to blame Obama because the referenced article blames Obama.

My point was that this isn’t a partisan issue.

Obama is being measured in his response just like the military is being circumspect. That response is very appropriate as the facts are still being investigated.

Obama doesn’t directly control the investigation in Texas.[/quote]

Brian: Agreed on all. To blame Obama for this is asinine, obviously.

I heard quite a few people take issue with his remarks following, with the main observation that they were passionless. Having not watched, I cannot comment, but to blame him adds insult to injury.

The Army is pushing strongly to bring more Arabic speakers into the fold and is taking more of a low-key approach as a result. Also, there is apparently a good deal more to this than meets the eye and I’ve heard from two good friends who are both still in, one a LTC in the Regular Army and one a MAJ in the Reserves.

Where Hasan parts company with McVeigh is in religious denomination only. If a “White Christian” were to undertake the same action (and wasn’t McVeigh a “White Christian”), it would be terrorism as well.

Cheap partisanship and shrill rhetoric at this accomplish nothing.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=briansd1][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Shelve your moronic partisan politics for a second [/quote]

I only said not to blame Obama because the referenced article blames Obama.

My point was that this isn’t a partisan issue.

Obama is being measured in his response just like the military is being circumspect. That response is very appropriate as the facts are still being investigated.

Obama doesn’t directly control the investigation in Texas.[/quote]

Brian: Agreed on all. To blame Obama for this is asinine, obviously.

I heard quite a few people take issue with his remarks following, with the main observation that they were passionless. Having not watched, I cannot comment, but to blame him adds insult to injury.

The Army is pushing strongly to bring more Arabic speakers into the fold and is taking more of a low-key approach as a result. Also, there is apparently a good deal more to this than meets the eye and I’ve heard from two good friends who are both still in, one a LTC in the Regular Army and one a MAJ in the Reserves.

Where Hasan parts company with McVeigh is in religious denomination only. If a “White Christian” were to undertake the same action (and wasn’t McVeigh a “White Christian”), it would be terrorism as well.

Cheap partisanship and shrill rhetoric at this accomplish nothing.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=briansd1][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Shelve your moronic partisan politics for a second [/quote]

I only said not to blame Obama because the referenced article blames Obama.

My point was that this isn’t a partisan issue.

Obama is being measured in his response just like the military is being circumspect. That response is very appropriate as the facts are still being investigated.

Obama doesn’t directly control the investigation in Texas.[/quote]

Brian: Agreed on all. To blame Obama for this is asinine, obviously.

I heard quite a few people take issue with his remarks following, with the main observation that they were passionless. Having not watched, I cannot comment, but to blame him adds insult to injury.

The Army is pushing strongly to bring more Arabic speakers into the fold and is taking more of a low-key approach as a result. Also, there is apparently a good deal more to this than meets the eye and I’ve heard from two good friends who are both still in, one a LTC in the Regular Army and one a MAJ in the Reserves.

Where Hasan parts company with McVeigh is in religious denomination only. If a “White Christian” were to undertake the same action (and wasn’t McVeigh a “White Christian”), it would be terrorism as well.

Cheap partisanship and shrill rhetoric at this accomplish nothing.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=briansd1][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Shelve your moronic partisan politics for a second [/quote]

I only said not to blame Obama because the referenced article blames Obama.

My point was that this isn’t a partisan issue.

Obama is being measured in his response just like the military is being circumspect. That response is very appropriate as the facts are still being investigated.

Obama doesn’t directly control the investigation in Texas.[/quote]

Brian: Agreed on all. To blame Obama for this is asinine, obviously.

I heard quite a few people take issue with his remarks following, with the main observation that they were passionless. Having not watched, I cannot comment, but to blame him adds insult to injury.

The Army is pushing strongly to bring more Arabic speakers into the fold and is taking more of a low-key approach as a result. Also, there is apparently a good deal more to this than meets the eye and I’ve heard from two good friends who are both still in, one a LTC in the Regular Army and one a MAJ in the Reserves.

Where Hasan parts company with McVeigh is in religious denomination only. If a “White Christian” were to undertake the same action (and wasn’t McVeigh a “White Christian”), it would be terrorism as well.

Cheap partisanship and shrill rhetoric at this accomplish nothing.

[Arraya]

[quote=CONCHO]It is worth nothing (although he may very well be guilty) that all of the early reports of this tragedy indicated multiple shooters, multiple suspects and that this guy is one of them. Also I hate to have to say this, but this is the USA. People are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law here. I remember 1995 when everyone was immediately blaming the Aye-rabs and it turned out to be McVeigh.

As an aside, I find it hard to believe that a psychologist was able to shoot 43 people on an Army base full of trained soldiers before being taken down. My suspicion is that there were multiple shooters and that this guy may have been one of them. They may be keeping the identities of the other suspects secret for security reasons.[/quote]

Yeah, it went from 3 shooters to 2 to 1 shooter. The governor of texas said there were three shooters with one dead and two in custody. Numerous agencies said there were three with one dead.

Two bloomberg articles stated it was him who was killed.

And this gem from CNN regarding accomplices.

The senior officer said he ducked into a nearby house for cover as 30 to 40 cars carrying MPs approached.
He said he saw a soldier in battle-dress uniform, his hands in the air. The MPs ordered him to lie on the ground and open his uniform, presumably to ensure he was not carrying explosives, the senior officer said.
He said an MP told him that authorities considered the man to be a suspect in the shootings after having overheard the man say he was with the shooter.
The man was surrounded for 25 to 30 minutes, until a convoy of vehicles arrived, led by a Ford Crown Victoria and carrying men in suits, and he was taken away, the senior officer said.

More to this story than meets the eye. Men in black come to pick up his accomplices. hmmmm

[Arraya]

[quote=CONCHO]It is worth nothing (although he may very well be guilty) that all of the early reports of this tragedy indicated multiple shooters, multiple suspects and that this guy is one of them. Also I hate to have to say this, but this is the USA. People are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law here. I remember 1995 when everyone was immediately blaming the Aye-rabs and it turned out to be McVeigh.

As an aside, I find it hard to believe that a psychologist was able to shoot 43 people on an Army base full of trained soldiers before being taken down. My suspicion is that there were multiple shooters and that this guy may have been one of them. They may be keeping the identities of the other suspects secret for security reasons.[/quote]

Yeah, it went from 3 shooters to 2 to 1 shooter. The governor of texas said there were three shooters with one dead and two in custody. Numerous agencies said there were three with one dead.

Two bloomberg articles stated it was him who was killed.

And this gem from CNN regarding accomplices.

The senior officer said he ducked into a nearby house for cover as 30 to 40 cars carrying MPs approached.
He said he saw a soldier in battle-dress uniform, his hands in the air. The MPs ordered him to lie on the ground and open his uniform, presumably to ensure he was not carrying explosives, the senior officer said.
He said an MP told him that authorities considered the man to be a suspect in the shootings after having overheard the man say he was with the shooter.
The man was surrounded for 25 to 30 minutes, until a convoy of vehicles arrived, led by a Ford Crown Victoria and carrying men in suits, and he was taken away, the senior officer said.

More to this story than meets the eye. Men in black come to pick up his accomplices. hmmmm

[Arraya]

[quote=CONCHO]It is worth nothing (although he may very well be guilty) that all of the early reports of this tragedy indicated multiple shooters, multiple suspects and that this guy is one of them. Also I hate to have to say this, but this is the USA. People are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law here. I remember 1995 when everyone was immediately blaming the Aye-rabs and it turned out to be McVeigh.

As an aside, I find it hard to believe that a psychologist was able to shoot 43 people on an Army base full of trained soldiers before being taken down. My suspicion is that there were multiple shooters and that this guy may have been one of them. They may be keeping the identities of the other suspects secret for security reasons.[/quote]

Yeah, it went from 3 shooters to 2 to 1 shooter. The governor of texas said there were three shooters with one dead and two in custody. Numerous agencies said there were three with one dead.

Two bloomberg articles stated it was him who was killed.

And this gem from CNN regarding accomplices.

The senior officer said he ducked into a nearby house for cover as 30 to 40 cars carrying MPs approached.
He said he saw a soldier in battle-dress uniform, his hands in the air. The MPs ordered him to lie on the ground and open his uniform, presumably to ensure he was not carrying explosives, the senior officer said.
He said an MP told him that authorities considered the man to be a suspect in the shootings after having overheard the man say he was with the shooter.
The man was surrounded for 25 to 30 minutes, until a convoy of vehicles arrived, led by a Ford Crown Victoria and carrying men in suits, and he was taken away, the senior officer said.

More to this story than meets the eye. Men in black come to pick up his accomplices. hmmmm

[Arraya]

[quote=CONCHO]It is worth nothing (although he may very well be guilty) that all of the early reports of this tragedy indicated multiple shooters, multiple suspects and that this guy is one of them. Also I hate to have to say this, but this is the USA. People are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law here. I remember 1995 when everyone was immediately blaming the Aye-rabs and it turned out to be McVeigh.

As an aside, I find it hard to believe that a psychologist was able to shoot 43 people on an Army base full of trained soldiers before being taken down. My suspicion is that there were multiple shooters and that this guy may have been one of them. They may be keeping the identities of the other suspects secret for security reasons.[/quote]

Yeah, it went from 3 shooters to 2 to 1 shooter. The governor of texas said there were three shooters with one dead and two in custody. Numerous agencies said there were three with one dead.

Two bloomberg articles stated it was him who was killed.

And this gem from CNN regarding accomplices.

The senior officer said he ducked into a nearby house for cover as 30 to 40 cars carrying MPs approached.
He said he saw a soldier in battle-dress uniform, his hands in the air. The MPs ordered him to lie on the ground and open his uniform, presumably to ensure he was not carrying explosives, the senior officer said.
He said an MP told him that authorities considered the man to be a suspect in the shootings after having overheard the man say he was with the shooter.
The man was surrounded for 25 to 30 minutes, until a convoy of vehicles arrived, led by a Ford Crown Victoria and carrying men in suits, and he was taken away, the senior officer said.

More to this story than meets the eye. Men in black come to pick up his accomplices. hmmmm

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