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November 10, 2009 at 7:02 PM #481125November 10, 2009 at 7:03 PM #480308afx114Participant
But you didn’t answer my question: anyone want a beer?
November 10, 2009 at 7:03 PM #480471afx114ParticipantBut you didn’t answer my question: anyone want a beer?
November 10, 2009 at 7:03 PM #480835afx114ParticipantBut you didn’t answer my question: anyone want a beer?
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November 10, 2009 at 7:03 PM #481135afx114ParticipantBut you didn’t answer my question: anyone want a beer?
November 10, 2009 at 7:03 PM #480313Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=afx114][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Afx: Okay. And your response above doesn’t do anything in terms of addressing my points on the dangers of fundamentalist Islam in any of its guises.[/quote]
My point is that fundamentalism of any kind is dangerous. The idea that Muslims have a monopoly on violence and oppression is unfounded. And I’m sure you’d agree with that.
And, yeah, we’d see the second coming if the Christian Coalition got their way. It’s a self-fulfilling prophecy, and they’d love to be in the drivers seat of the train that ushers it in.[/quote]
Afx: I do agree COMPLETELY that fundamentalism of any kind is dangerous, regardless of stripe.
As a Catholic and Jesuit educated, I need only look at the Mother Church’s history to see the dangers of unfettered “piety” and “obedience to God”. But, and this is a biggie: Christians and Catholics have moved forward and moved on (with the noted exception of those fundamentalists).
Islam, by and large, has not. I think you would have to agree that there is a basic resistance to modernity, openness and free thinking in Muslim lands and one only need look at their societies to see this.
November 10, 2009 at 7:03 PM #480476Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=afx114][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Afx: Okay. And your response above doesn’t do anything in terms of addressing my points on the dangers of fundamentalist Islam in any of its guises.[/quote]
My point is that fundamentalism of any kind is dangerous. The idea that Muslims have a monopoly on violence and oppression is unfounded. And I’m sure you’d agree with that.
And, yeah, we’d see the second coming if the Christian Coalition got their way. It’s a self-fulfilling prophecy, and they’d love to be in the drivers seat of the train that ushers it in.[/quote]
Afx: I do agree COMPLETELY that fundamentalism of any kind is dangerous, regardless of stripe.
As a Catholic and Jesuit educated, I need only look at the Mother Church’s history to see the dangers of unfettered “piety” and “obedience to God”. But, and this is a biggie: Christians and Catholics have moved forward and moved on (with the noted exception of those fundamentalists).
Islam, by and large, has not. I think you would have to agree that there is a basic resistance to modernity, openness and free thinking in Muslim lands and one only need look at their societies to see this.
November 10, 2009 at 7:03 PM #480840Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=afx114][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Afx: Okay. And your response above doesn’t do anything in terms of addressing my points on the dangers of fundamentalist Islam in any of its guises.[/quote]
My point is that fundamentalism of any kind is dangerous. The idea that Muslims have a monopoly on violence and oppression is unfounded. And I’m sure you’d agree with that.
And, yeah, we’d see the second coming if the Christian Coalition got their way. It’s a self-fulfilling prophecy, and they’d love to be in the drivers seat of the train that ushers it in.[/quote]
Afx: I do agree COMPLETELY that fundamentalism of any kind is dangerous, regardless of stripe.
As a Catholic and Jesuit educated, I need only look at the Mother Church’s history to see the dangers of unfettered “piety” and “obedience to God”. But, and this is a biggie: Christians and Catholics have moved forward and moved on (with the noted exception of those fundamentalists).
Islam, by and large, has not. I think you would have to agree that there is a basic resistance to modernity, openness and free thinking in Muslim lands and one only need look at their societies to see this.
November 10, 2009 at 7:03 PM #480920Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=afx114][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Afx: Okay. And your response above doesn’t do anything in terms of addressing my points on the dangers of fundamentalist Islam in any of its guises.[/quote]
My point is that fundamentalism of any kind is dangerous. The idea that Muslims have a monopoly on violence and oppression is unfounded. And I’m sure you’d agree with that.
And, yeah, we’d see the second coming if the Christian Coalition got their way. It’s a self-fulfilling prophecy, and they’d love to be in the drivers seat of the train that ushers it in.[/quote]
Afx: I do agree COMPLETELY that fundamentalism of any kind is dangerous, regardless of stripe.
As a Catholic and Jesuit educated, I need only look at the Mother Church’s history to see the dangers of unfettered “piety” and “obedience to God”. But, and this is a biggie: Christians and Catholics have moved forward and moved on (with the noted exception of those fundamentalists).
Islam, by and large, has not. I think you would have to agree that there is a basic resistance to modernity, openness and free thinking in Muslim lands and one only need look at their societies to see this.
November 10, 2009 at 7:03 PM #481140Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=afx114][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Afx: Okay. And your response above doesn’t do anything in terms of addressing my points on the dangers of fundamentalist Islam in any of its guises.[/quote]
My point is that fundamentalism of any kind is dangerous. The idea that Muslims have a monopoly on violence and oppression is unfounded. And I’m sure you’d agree with that.
And, yeah, we’d see the second coming if the Christian Coalition got their way. It’s a self-fulfilling prophecy, and they’d love to be in the drivers seat of the train that ushers it in.[/quote]
Afx: I do agree COMPLETELY that fundamentalism of any kind is dangerous, regardless of stripe.
As a Catholic and Jesuit educated, I need only look at the Mother Church’s history to see the dangers of unfettered “piety” and “obedience to God”. But, and this is a biggie: Christians and Catholics have moved forward and moved on (with the noted exception of those fundamentalists).
Islam, by and large, has not. I think you would have to agree that there is a basic resistance to modernity, openness and free thinking in Muslim lands and one only need look at their societies to see this.
November 10, 2009 at 7:04 PM #480318Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=afx114]But you didn’t answer my question: anyone want a beer?[/quote]
Dude, I’m German! I ALWAYS want a beer. And precision weaponry, buxom blond women and over-engineered automobiles.
November 10, 2009 at 7:04 PM #480481Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=afx114]But you didn’t answer my question: anyone want a beer?[/quote]
Dude, I’m German! I ALWAYS want a beer. And precision weaponry, buxom blond women and over-engineered automobiles.
November 10, 2009 at 7:04 PM #480845Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=afx114]But you didn’t answer my question: anyone want a beer?[/quote]
Dude, I’m German! I ALWAYS want a beer. And precision weaponry, buxom blond women and over-engineered automobiles.
November 10, 2009 at 7:04 PM #480925Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=afx114]But you didn’t answer my question: anyone want a beer?[/quote]
Dude, I’m German! I ALWAYS want a beer. And precision weaponry, buxom blond women and over-engineered automobiles.
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