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April 22, 2010 at 6:01 PM #543509April 22, 2010 at 6:16 PM #542553briansd1Guest
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Brian, have you been to a UAW sanctioned, beat the crap out of the Asian made thing before? Last time I checked, a lot of those union buddies few a few cheeky words to say about things being oriental.Why to you think this “racism” thing is exclusively for “right wing” Republican nuts? I’m getting a little lost in translation here.
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I never said that racism is only on the right. The subject was Obama opposition.
I agree with you about the anti-Asian sentiment in the UAW.
But if you talk about logic, then the “racism” on the left is much more rational.
Some people are anti-Asian because they see jobs going to Asia. And they see Asians getting richer while they stagnate.
But if one is unemployed without health care, then one is not rational in opposing Obama who proposes to provide health care and unemployment benefits, while supporting politicians who will not provide those benefits.
BTW, I support globalization and free trade. And I believe that Americans need to learn from and reach out to other cultures in order to thrive.
April 22, 2010 at 6:16 PM #542669briansd1Guest[quote=flu]
Brian, have you been to a UAW sanctioned, beat the crap out of the Asian made thing before? Last time I checked, a lot of those union buddies few a few cheeky words to say about things being oriental.Why to you think this “racism” thing is exclusively for “right wing” Republican nuts? I’m getting a little lost in translation here.
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I never said that racism is only on the right. The subject was Obama opposition.
I agree with you about the anti-Asian sentiment in the UAW.
But if you talk about logic, then the “racism” on the left is much more rational.
Some people are anti-Asian because they see jobs going to Asia. And they see Asians getting richer while they stagnate.
But if one is unemployed without health care, then one is not rational in opposing Obama who proposes to provide health care and unemployment benefits, while supporting politicians who will not provide those benefits.
BTW, I support globalization and free trade. And I believe that Americans need to learn from and reach out to other cultures in order to thrive.
April 22, 2010 at 6:16 PM #543147briansd1Guest[quote=flu]
Brian, have you been to a UAW sanctioned, beat the crap out of the Asian made thing before? Last time I checked, a lot of those union buddies few a few cheeky words to say about things being oriental.Why to you think this “racism” thing is exclusively for “right wing” Republican nuts? I’m getting a little lost in translation here.
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I never said that racism is only on the right. The subject was Obama opposition.
I agree with you about the anti-Asian sentiment in the UAW.
But if you talk about logic, then the “racism” on the left is much more rational.
Some people are anti-Asian because they see jobs going to Asia. And they see Asians getting richer while they stagnate.
But if one is unemployed without health care, then one is not rational in opposing Obama who proposes to provide health care and unemployment benefits, while supporting politicians who will not provide those benefits.
BTW, I support globalization and free trade. And I believe that Americans need to learn from and reach out to other cultures in order to thrive.
April 22, 2010 at 6:16 PM #543240briansd1Guest[quote=flu]
Brian, have you been to a UAW sanctioned, beat the crap out of the Asian made thing before? Last time I checked, a lot of those union buddies few a few cheeky words to say about things being oriental.Why to you think this “racism” thing is exclusively for “right wing” Republican nuts? I’m getting a little lost in translation here.
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I never said that racism is only on the right. The subject was Obama opposition.
I agree with you about the anti-Asian sentiment in the UAW.
But if you talk about logic, then the “racism” on the left is much more rational.
Some people are anti-Asian because they see jobs going to Asia. And they see Asians getting richer while they stagnate.
But if one is unemployed without health care, then one is not rational in opposing Obama who proposes to provide health care and unemployment benefits, while supporting politicians who will not provide those benefits.
BTW, I support globalization and free trade. And I believe that Americans need to learn from and reach out to other cultures in order to thrive.
April 22, 2010 at 6:16 PM #543514briansd1Guest[quote=flu]
Brian, have you been to a UAW sanctioned, beat the crap out of the Asian made thing before? Last time I checked, a lot of those union buddies few a few cheeky words to say about things being oriental.Why to you think this “racism” thing is exclusively for “right wing” Republican nuts? I’m getting a little lost in translation here.
[/quote]
I never said that racism is only on the right. The subject was Obama opposition.
I agree with you about the anti-Asian sentiment in the UAW.
But if you talk about logic, then the “racism” on the left is much more rational.
Some people are anti-Asian because they see jobs going to Asia. And they see Asians getting richer while they stagnate.
But if one is unemployed without health care, then one is not rational in opposing Obama who proposes to provide health care and unemployment benefits, while supporting politicians who will not provide those benefits.
BTW, I support globalization and free trade. And I believe that Americans need to learn from and reach out to other cultures in order to thrive.
April 22, 2010 at 6:17 PM #542558afx114ParticipantApropos of this thread, has anyone seen New Left Media’s recent Tax Day Tea Party video?
April 22, 2010 at 6:17 PM #542674afx114ParticipantApropos of this thread, has anyone seen New Left Media’s recent Tax Day Tea Party video?
April 22, 2010 at 6:17 PM #543152afx114ParticipantApropos of this thread, has anyone seen New Left Media’s recent Tax Day Tea Party video?
April 22, 2010 at 6:17 PM #543245afx114ParticipantApropos of this thread, has anyone seen New Left Media’s recent Tax Day Tea Party video?
April 22, 2010 at 6:17 PM #543519afx114ParticipantApropos of this thread, has anyone seen New Left Media’s recent Tax Day Tea Party video?
April 22, 2010 at 6:19 PM #542563surveyorParticipant[quote=SK in CV]You know surveyor, I agree with you. And that kind of makes my point. And despite Dick Armey’s assertion, the few voices on the right that did step up and criticize the spending never got much traction. They were never in revolt. He wasn’t in revolt. Armey, through his Freedomworks, was a primary organizer of the Tea Party movement,[/quote]
There was a revolt. Why do you think the Democrats were able to get majorities in both houses of Congress? Because the conservatives stayed home instead of voting for the Republicans or going to bat for them. There wasn’t a lot of interest of trying to raise money for Republicans if they weren’t going to listen.
Yes, in a lot of ways, the Tea Party members are taking a different approach, because they not part of Obama’s natural constituency. They know Obama, the Democrats, and even the Republican party are not willing to listen to them. And so they have to make their voices heard more forcefully. They already tried to make their voices heard within the system and that didn’t work.
And for that they are vilified as racists and hate-mongers.
April 22, 2010 at 6:19 PM #542679surveyorParticipant[quote=SK in CV]You know surveyor, I agree with you. And that kind of makes my point. And despite Dick Armey’s assertion, the few voices on the right that did step up and criticize the spending never got much traction. They were never in revolt. He wasn’t in revolt. Armey, through his Freedomworks, was a primary organizer of the Tea Party movement,[/quote]
There was a revolt. Why do you think the Democrats were able to get majorities in both houses of Congress? Because the conservatives stayed home instead of voting for the Republicans or going to bat for them. There wasn’t a lot of interest of trying to raise money for Republicans if they weren’t going to listen.
Yes, in a lot of ways, the Tea Party members are taking a different approach, because they not part of Obama’s natural constituency. They know Obama, the Democrats, and even the Republican party are not willing to listen to them. And so they have to make their voices heard more forcefully. They already tried to make their voices heard within the system and that didn’t work.
And for that they are vilified as racists and hate-mongers.
April 22, 2010 at 6:19 PM #543157surveyorParticipant[quote=SK in CV]You know surveyor, I agree with you. And that kind of makes my point. And despite Dick Armey’s assertion, the few voices on the right that did step up and criticize the spending never got much traction. They were never in revolt. He wasn’t in revolt. Armey, through his Freedomworks, was a primary organizer of the Tea Party movement,[/quote]
There was a revolt. Why do you think the Democrats were able to get majorities in both houses of Congress? Because the conservatives stayed home instead of voting for the Republicans or going to bat for them. There wasn’t a lot of interest of trying to raise money for Republicans if they weren’t going to listen.
Yes, in a lot of ways, the Tea Party members are taking a different approach, because they not part of Obama’s natural constituency. They know Obama, the Democrats, and even the Republican party are not willing to listen to them. And so they have to make their voices heard more forcefully. They already tried to make their voices heard within the system and that didn’t work.
And for that they are vilified as racists and hate-mongers.
April 22, 2010 at 6:19 PM #543250surveyorParticipant[quote=SK in CV]You know surveyor, I agree with you. And that kind of makes my point. And despite Dick Armey’s assertion, the few voices on the right that did step up and criticize the spending never got much traction. They were never in revolt. He wasn’t in revolt. Armey, through his Freedomworks, was a primary organizer of the Tea Party movement,[/quote]
There was a revolt. Why do you think the Democrats were able to get majorities in both houses of Congress? Because the conservatives stayed home instead of voting for the Republicans or going to bat for them. There wasn’t a lot of interest of trying to raise money for Republicans if they weren’t going to listen.
Yes, in a lot of ways, the Tea Party members are taking a different approach, because they not part of Obama’s natural constituency. They know Obama, the Democrats, and even the Republican party are not willing to listen to them. And so they have to make their voices heard more forcefully. They already tried to make their voices heard within the system and that didn’t work.
And for that they are vilified as racists and hate-mongers.
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