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April 22, 2010 at 12:40 PM #543156April 22, 2010 at 12:41 PM #542200
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I fully expect an ignorant and disingenuous outcry from anti-tax TEA-party idiots on the right (which includes lots of average means white people who mainly can’t get over the fact the President of the U.S. is a black dude).[/quote]I definitely feel that there is a racist element in the right, especially in the lower social economic strata of right wing Whites — people who would benefit greatly from Obama policies but who are vociferous opponents of Obama.
It’s a controversial issue so people don’t want to face it. Right wing leaders know this and they play to the fears of their base quite well.
But the demographics are such that progressives will win the day. It’s only a matter of time.
Conservatives want to preserve the status quo and they always had to be dragged along kicking and screaming. That’s the way it’s been and that’s the way it will remain.
April 22, 2010 at 12:41 PM #542316Guest[quote=gandalf]
I fully expect an ignorant and disingenuous outcry from anti-tax TEA-party idiots on the right (which includes lots of average means white people who mainly can’t get over the fact the President of the U.S. is a black dude).[/quote]I definitely feel that there is a racist element in the right, especially in the lower social economic strata of right wing Whites — people who would benefit greatly from Obama policies but who are vociferous opponents of Obama.
It’s a controversial issue so people don’t want to face it. Right wing leaders know this and they play to the fears of their base quite well.
But the demographics are such that progressives will win the day. It’s only a matter of time.
Conservatives want to preserve the status quo and they always had to be dragged along kicking and screaming. That’s the way it’s been and that’s the way it will remain.
April 22, 2010 at 12:41 PM #542791Guest[quote=gandalf]
I fully expect an ignorant and disingenuous outcry from anti-tax TEA-party idiots on the right (which includes lots of average means white people who mainly can’t get over the fact the President of the U.S. is a black dude).[/quote]I definitely feel that there is a racist element in the right, especially in the lower social economic strata of right wing Whites — people who would benefit greatly from Obama policies but who are vociferous opponents of Obama.
It’s a controversial issue so people don’t want to face it. Right wing leaders know this and they play to the fears of their base quite well.
But the demographics are such that progressives will win the day. It’s only a matter of time.
Conservatives want to preserve the status quo and they always had to be dragged along kicking and screaming. That’s the way it’s been and that’s the way it will remain.
April 22, 2010 at 12:41 PM #542883Guest[quote=gandalf]
I fully expect an ignorant and disingenuous outcry from anti-tax TEA-party idiots on the right (which includes lots of average means white people who mainly can’t get over the fact the President of the U.S. is a black dude).[/quote]I definitely feel that there is a racist element in the right, especially in the lower social economic strata of right wing Whites — people who would benefit greatly from Obama policies but who are vociferous opponents of Obama.
It’s a controversial issue so people don’t want to face it. Right wing leaders know this and they play to the fears of their base quite well.
But the demographics are such that progressives will win the day. It’s only a matter of time.
Conservatives want to preserve the status quo and they always had to be dragged along kicking and screaming. That’s the way it’s been and that’s the way it will remain.
April 22, 2010 at 12:41 PM #543161Guest[quote=gandalf]
I fully expect an ignorant and disingenuous outcry from anti-tax TEA-party idiots on the right (which includes lots of average means white people who mainly can’t get over the fact the President of the U.S. is a black dude).[/quote]I definitely feel that there is a racist element in the right, especially in the lower social economic strata of right wing Whites — people who would benefit greatly from Obama policies but who are vociferous opponents of Obama.
It’s a controversial issue so people don’t want to face it. Right wing leaders know this and they play to the fears of their base quite well.
But the demographics are such that progressives will win the day. It’s only a matter of time.
Conservatives want to preserve the status quo and they always had to be dragged along kicking and screaming. That’s the way it’s been and that’s the way it will remain.
April 22, 2010 at 12:43 PM #542210
CoronitaParticipant[quote=briansd1][quote=gandalf]
I fully expect an ignorant and disingenuous outcry from anti-tax TEA-party idiots on the right (which includes lots of average means white people who mainly can’t get over the fact the President of the U.S. is a black dude).[/quote]I definitely feel that there is a racist element in the right, especially in the lower social economic strata of right wing Whites — people who would benefit greatly from Obama policies but who are vociferous opponents of Obama.
It’s a controversial issue so people don’t want to face it. Right wing leaders know this and they play to the fears of their base quite well.
But the demographics are such that progressives will win the day. It’s only a matter of time.
Conservatives want to preserve the status quo and they always had to be dragged along kicking and screaming. That’s the way it’s been and that’s the way it will remain.[/quote]
I knew you would be the type to throw the R card in the equation. For some, winning, is at all costs…
April 22, 2010 at 12:43 PM #542326CoronitaParticipant[quote=briansd1][quote=gandalf]
I fully expect an ignorant and disingenuous outcry from anti-tax TEA-party idiots on the right (which includes lots of average means white people who mainly can’t get over the fact the President of the U.S. is a black dude).[/quote]I definitely feel that there is a racist element in the right, especially in the lower social economic strata of right wing Whites — people who would benefit greatly from Obama policies but who are vociferous opponents of Obama.
It’s a controversial issue so people don’t want to face it. Right wing leaders know this and they play to the fears of their base quite well.
But the demographics are such that progressives will win the day. It’s only a matter of time.
Conservatives want to preserve the status quo and they always had to be dragged along kicking and screaming. That’s the way it’s been and that’s the way it will remain.[/quote]
I knew you would be the type to throw the R card in the equation. For some, winning, is at all costs…
April 22, 2010 at 12:43 PM #542801CoronitaParticipant[quote=briansd1][quote=gandalf]
I fully expect an ignorant and disingenuous outcry from anti-tax TEA-party idiots on the right (which includes lots of average means white people who mainly can’t get over the fact the President of the U.S. is a black dude).[/quote]I definitely feel that there is a racist element in the right, especially in the lower social economic strata of right wing Whites — people who would benefit greatly from Obama policies but who are vociferous opponents of Obama.
It’s a controversial issue so people don’t want to face it. Right wing leaders know this and they play to the fears of their base quite well.
But the demographics are such that progressives will win the day. It’s only a matter of time.
Conservatives want to preserve the status quo and they always had to be dragged along kicking and screaming. That’s the way it’s been and that’s the way it will remain.[/quote]
I knew you would be the type to throw the R card in the equation. For some, winning, is at all costs…
April 22, 2010 at 12:43 PM #542893CoronitaParticipant[quote=briansd1][quote=gandalf]
I fully expect an ignorant and disingenuous outcry from anti-tax TEA-party idiots on the right (which includes lots of average means white people who mainly can’t get over the fact the President of the U.S. is a black dude).[/quote]I definitely feel that there is a racist element in the right, especially in the lower social economic strata of right wing Whites — people who would benefit greatly from Obama policies but who are vociferous opponents of Obama.
It’s a controversial issue so people don’t want to face it. Right wing leaders know this and they play to the fears of their base quite well.
But the demographics are such that progressives will win the day. It’s only a matter of time.
Conservatives want to preserve the status quo and they always had to be dragged along kicking and screaming. That’s the way it’s been and that’s the way it will remain.[/quote]
I knew you would be the type to throw the R card in the equation. For some, winning, is at all costs…
April 22, 2010 at 12:43 PM #543171CoronitaParticipant[quote=briansd1][quote=gandalf]
I fully expect an ignorant and disingenuous outcry from anti-tax TEA-party idiots on the right (which includes lots of average means white people who mainly can’t get over the fact the President of the U.S. is a black dude).[/quote]I definitely feel that there is a racist element in the right, especially in the lower social economic strata of right wing Whites — people who would benefit greatly from Obama policies but who are vociferous opponents of Obama.
It’s a controversial issue so people don’t want to face it. Right wing leaders know this and they play to the fears of their base quite well.
But the demographics are such that progressives will win the day. It’s only a matter of time.
Conservatives want to preserve the status quo and they always had to be dragged along kicking and screaming. That’s the way it’s been and that’s the way it will remain.[/quote]
I knew you would be the type to throw the R card in the equation. For some, winning, is at all costs…
April 22, 2010 at 12:55 PM #542205CoronitaParticipant[quote=Aecetia]I must have missed it. I thought flu said, buy and ship from abroad. I would support VAT if it completely replaced both State and Federal Income Tax.
Today I heard that the new financial bill that is making the rounds may have a transaction tax built in for certain trades: Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) called for the creation of a tax on financial transaction to help reduce the deficit.
“At a time when the deficit is rising, we must find ways to reduce the debt without putting a heavy burden on average Americans or cutting necessary services,” he said. “A small transaction tax can raise substantial funds with virtually no effect on middle-class families. And it has the added effect of dampening down overly speculative trading, which is partially to blame for the recent economic crash.” Harkin joined Wall Street and economic experts as well as labor leaders and consumer advocates in calling for the tax.
That should put a damper on the recovery.
Actually, many canadians at the border do just this. They get all their auto repair, big purchases done in the States to escape all the VAT/provicial taxes. Of course, they have to be careful about re-entry into canada, because if it’s so obvious, they end up paying customs at the border.
I’m looking forward to some Senator proposing a
savings tax or cash-in-the-mattress-tax for people making $200k single/$250k married…The bill would be something like: if you hold on to cash longer than a year without spending it, whether it is in a 0% interest account or in your mattress, you have to pay taxes on it…. Heck, it would stimulate spending, wouldn’t it?
April 22, 2010 at 12:55 PM #542321CoronitaParticipant[quote=Aecetia]I must have missed it. I thought flu said, buy and ship from abroad. I would support VAT if it completely replaced both State and Federal Income Tax.
Today I heard that the new financial bill that is making the rounds may have a transaction tax built in for certain trades: Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) called for the creation of a tax on financial transaction to help reduce the deficit.
“At a time when the deficit is rising, we must find ways to reduce the debt without putting a heavy burden on average Americans or cutting necessary services,” he said. “A small transaction tax can raise substantial funds with virtually no effect on middle-class families. And it has the added effect of dampening down overly speculative trading, which is partially to blame for the recent economic crash.” Harkin joined Wall Street and economic experts as well as labor leaders and consumer advocates in calling for the tax.
That should put a damper on the recovery.
Actually, many canadians at the border do just this. They get all their auto repair, big purchases done in the States to escape all the VAT/provicial taxes. Of course, they have to be careful about re-entry into canada, because if it’s so obvious, they end up paying customs at the border.
I’m looking forward to some Senator proposing a
savings tax or cash-in-the-mattress-tax for people making $200k single/$250k married…The bill would be something like: if you hold on to cash longer than a year without spending it, whether it is in a 0% interest account or in your mattress, you have to pay taxes on it…. Heck, it would stimulate spending, wouldn’t it?
April 22, 2010 at 12:55 PM #542796CoronitaParticipant[quote=Aecetia]I must have missed it. I thought flu said, buy and ship from abroad. I would support VAT if it completely replaced both State and Federal Income Tax.
Today I heard that the new financial bill that is making the rounds may have a transaction tax built in for certain trades: Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) called for the creation of a tax on financial transaction to help reduce the deficit.
“At a time when the deficit is rising, we must find ways to reduce the debt without putting a heavy burden on average Americans or cutting necessary services,” he said. “A small transaction tax can raise substantial funds with virtually no effect on middle-class families. And it has the added effect of dampening down overly speculative trading, which is partially to blame for the recent economic crash.” Harkin joined Wall Street and economic experts as well as labor leaders and consumer advocates in calling for the tax.
That should put a damper on the recovery.
Actually, many canadians at the border do just this. They get all their auto repair, big purchases done in the States to escape all the VAT/provicial taxes. Of course, they have to be careful about re-entry into canada, because if it’s so obvious, they end up paying customs at the border.
I’m looking forward to some Senator proposing a
savings tax or cash-in-the-mattress-tax for people making $200k single/$250k married…The bill would be something like: if you hold on to cash longer than a year without spending it, whether it is in a 0% interest account or in your mattress, you have to pay taxes on it…. Heck, it would stimulate spending, wouldn’t it?
April 22, 2010 at 12:55 PM #542888CoronitaParticipant[quote=Aecetia]I must have missed it. I thought flu said, buy and ship from abroad. I would support VAT if it completely replaced both State and Federal Income Tax.
Today I heard that the new financial bill that is making the rounds may have a transaction tax built in for certain trades: Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) called for the creation of a tax on financial transaction to help reduce the deficit.
“At a time when the deficit is rising, we must find ways to reduce the debt without putting a heavy burden on average Americans or cutting necessary services,” he said. “A small transaction tax can raise substantial funds with virtually no effect on middle-class families. And it has the added effect of dampening down overly speculative trading, which is partially to blame for the recent economic crash.” Harkin joined Wall Street and economic experts as well as labor leaders and consumer advocates in calling for the tax.
That should put a damper on the recovery.
Actually, many canadians at the border do just this. They get all their auto repair, big purchases done in the States to escape all the VAT/provicial taxes. Of course, they have to be careful about re-entry into canada, because if it’s so obvious, they end up paying customs at the border.
I’m looking forward to some Senator proposing a
savings tax or cash-in-the-mattress-tax for people making $200k single/$250k married…The bill would be something like: if you hold on to cash longer than a year without spending it, whether it is in a 0% interest account or in your mattress, you have to pay taxes on it…. Heck, it would stimulate spending, wouldn’t it?
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