st. louis cop: “If you don’t want to get killed, don’t show up in front of me.”

[FlyerInHi]

I’m with Spd. And he lives in NYC.

I believe a lot of the comments in support of police violence because of “reality” come from rural areas where there’s not much structure but a culture of pulling yourself up by the bootstraps and doing what “reality” dictates.

[NotCranky]

I didn’t say there are not a lot of good people, I said you wouldn’t be popular or even seem liked by anyone.

[spdrun]

But why go out of your way to be unpopular and disliked, especially if your behavior serves no constructive law enforcement purpose?

[NotCranky]

[quote=spdrun]But why go out of your way to be unpopular and disliked, especially if your behavior serves no constructive law enforcement purpose?[/quote]
I am not arguing that at all…gotta go.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=Blogstar]…you try it.[/quote]

That’s saying “you’re too weak to police yourself so you’ll never understand reality. You’re not cut out for the job so don’t even talk.”

What about an ivory tower academic saying the same thing to imply “you’re too dumb, your IQ is too low to understand the abstractions of the law.”

[NotCranky]

[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=Blogstar]…you try it.[/quote]

That’s saying “you’re too weak to police yourself so you’ll never understand reality. You’re not cut out for the job so don’t even talk.”

What about an ivory tower academic saying the same thing to imply “you’re too dumb, your IQ is too low to understand the abstractions of the law.”[/quote]
No it’s not , it’s like saying “you try it”.

[FlyerInHi]

Ok, you didn’t mean it that way. But I see that type of thinking a lot concerning cops and and soldiers.

The comments go like “shut the fuck up. You should be glad there are guys like that defending your safety and freedom. Your weak pathetic, wimpy, bleeding heart liberal ass never had to face reality. Now go out there and try it.”

[NotCranky]

[quote=FlyerInHi]Ok, you didn’t mean it that way. But I see that type of thinking a lot concerning cops and and soldiers.

The comments go like “shut the fuck up. You should be glad there are guys like that defending your safety and freedom. Your weak pathetic, wimpy, bleeding heart liberal ass never had to face reality. Now go out there and try it.”[/quote]

So how would the progressive liberal police do their thing? In really crime ridden neighborhoods? In the case of 6 foot whatever 300 pound, Michael Brown going with the version that he assaulted the cop, ran , charged again? I mean when you weren’t arresting people for poor fashion choices and messy houses what would you do about all these violent people.

[ltsddd]

[quote=scaredyclassic]is this guy just a weird deviant as the department says or is this indicative of a general frame of mind some other cops patrol in…
[/quote]

“I’m a cop. If you don’t want to get hurt, don’t challenge me”

This came from a former cop who’s a “professor” of homeland security.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/08/19/im-a-cop-if-you-dont-want-to-get-hurt-dont-challenge-me/

[Anonymous]

[quote=Blogstar]So how would the progressive liberal police do their thing?[/quote]

It’s hard for the Fox News/Limbaugh cult to comprehend, but the political persuasion of the the officer shouldn’t matter.

Your masters have you trained to think that “liberal” somehow means weak or indecisive. Never mind that the leaders of the American Revolution were liberals — there are plenty of progressive liberals in our military today that handle tough situations, use necessary force, and otherwise serve honorably without being bigots.

No reason cops can’t do the same.

[NotCranky]

[quote=harvey][quote=Blogstar]So how would the progressive liberal police do their thing?[/quote]

It’s hard for the Fox News/Limbaugh cult to comprehend, but the political persuasion of the the officer shouldn’t matter.

Your masters have you trained to think that “liberal” somehow means weak or indecisive. Never mind that the leaders of the American Revolution were liberals — there are plenty of progressive liberals in our military today that handle tough situations, use necessary force, and otherwise serve honorably without being bigots.

No reason cops can’t do the same.[/quote]

Let’s see how Brian likes the question. Maybe you mean neo -liberal?

It’s amazing to me that you take my views on this to mean I watch Fox and listen to Rush Limbaugh. You must have an “either you’re with us or against” us mentality that goes along with the mafia- like nature of the two major political parties that I described in an earlier post.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=Blogstar]
So how would the progressive liberal police do their thing? In really crime ridden neighborhoods?
[/quote]
Run police departments in an ethical manner rather be getting fixated on the “reality” of the moment.

[quote=Blogstar]
In the case of 6 foot whatever 300 pound, Michael Brown going with the version that he assaulted the cop, ran , charged again?
[/quote]
What happened at the very moment just before the killing is still subject to debate so I won’t go there.

But it didn’t have to happen that way. The police didn’t have to pursue Brown. He could have called for backup to arrest Brown.

How about defensive policing, like defensive driving? You don’t insist on your right-of-way every time. Yield if you can.

BTW, does 300 lbs (I think he was 280) necessarily mean strong and menacing? What’s the percentage of the male population at 250 lbs +/-?

[quote=Blogstar]
what would you do about all these violent people.[/quote]
You arrest them in a humane manner. They are our citizens and our streets are not war zones, even though some want to think so.

I don’t buy the “reality” argument.

[quote=Blogstar]
I mean when you weren’t arresting people for poor fashion choices and messy houses
[/quote]
And don’t forget that in good neighborhoods, window coverings should have white backings so as not to offend the neighbors.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=ltsdd][quote=scaredyclassic]is this guy just a weird deviant as the department says or is this indicative of a general frame of mind some other cops patrol in…
[/quote]

“I’m a cop. If you don’t want to get hurt, don’t challenge me”

This came from a former cop who’s a “professor” of homeland security.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/08/19/im-a-cop-if-you-dont-want-to-get-hurt-dont-challenge-me/
[/quote]

I believe the professor says that avoiding confrontation with police is the “realistic” way to not get hurt. But he goes on to say that police should use other means to diffuse tense situations, and that he’s with the ACLU.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Blogstar]It’s amazing to me that you take my views on this to mean I watch Fox and listen to Rush Limbaugh. You must have an “either you’re with us or against” us mentality that goes along with the mafia- like nature of the two major political parties that I described in an earlier post.[/quote]

It’s amazing how there are millions of people of the US population watching Fox, Limbaugh and company – outlets whom are almost always in lock step on their talking points and positions – and yet nobody who shares these same positions in internet discussions will admit to tuning in to these shows.

Either we must have some massive population of independent thinkers that come to the exact same conclusions as the Fox editorial staff (often word-for-word) — or perhaps there is some secret telepathic broadcast?

I can’t explain it.

[FlyerInHi]

I admit to watching PBS, BBC, reading NY Times, Washington Post, Those are pretty mainstream media outlets.

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