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June 17, 2010 at 6:27 AM #567250June 17, 2010 at 8:01 AM #566271
sdrealtor
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You proved my point and bolded what I wrote to make it even clearer. The Golden Triangle is the real white collar professional employment center.I dont disagree downtown has grown and it clearly is the judical center but prop mgment, shipbuilders and airport workers are not white collar professionals.
When I talk about the Golden Triangle area I am also referring to the areas that lie just outside of it within a mile or two as this is the general area people are commuting to. In the Golden triangle area you have:
SAIC
QualComm
UCSD
Sharp Hospital
Children’s Hospital
Law Firm’s
Stock Brokerages
Scripps Hospital
VA Hospital
Green Hospital
Scripps Institute
Fortune 500 Pharmaceutical companies
Major military contractors (Raytheon etc)
Assorted Biotech/Medical Device/Pharmaceutical companies
Software Companies
Telecomm companies
Consulting firms
Investment BankingI have missed plenty of others but this group comprises the vast majority of SD Counties largest employers (excluding the military of course).
I’m sure you know plenty of people who ride the trolley because that is your world. Its a bit of confirmation bias but outside of your world lies the most powerful economic engines of SD County.
June 17, 2010 at 8:01 AM #566369ParticipantBG
You proved my point and bolded what I wrote to make it even clearer. The Golden Triangle is the real white collar professional employment center.I dont disagree downtown has grown and it clearly is the judical center but prop mgment, shipbuilders and airport workers are not white collar professionals.
When I talk about the Golden Triangle area I am also referring to the areas that lie just outside of it within a mile or two as this is the general area people are commuting to. In the Golden triangle area you have:
SAIC
QualComm
UCSD
Sharp Hospital
Children’s Hospital
Law Firm’s
Stock Brokerages
Scripps Hospital
VA Hospital
Green Hospital
Scripps Institute
Fortune 500 Pharmaceutical companies
Major military contractors (Raytheon etc)
Assorted Biotech/Medical Device/Pharmaceutical companies
Software Companies
Telecomm companies
Consulting firms
Investment BankingI have missed plenty of others but this group comprises the vast majority of SD Counties largest employers (excluding the military of course).
I’m sure you know plenty of people who ride the trolley because that is your world. Its a bit of confirmation bias but outside of your world lies the most powerful economic engines of SD County.
June 17, 2010 at 8:01 AM #566878ParticipantBG
You proved my point and bolded what I wrote to make it even clearer. The Golden Triangle is the real white collar professional employment center.I dont disagree downtown has grown and it clearly is the judical center but prop mgment, shipbuilders and airport workers are not white collar professionals.
When I talk about the Golden Triangle area I am also referring to the areas that lie just outside of it within a mile or two as this is the general area people are commuting to. In the Golden triangle area you have:
SAIC
QualComm
UCSD
Sharp Hospital
Children’s Hospital
Law Firm’s
Stock Brokerages
Scripps Hospital
VA Hospital
Green Hospital
Scripps Institute
Fortune 500 Pharmaceutical companies
Major military contractors (Raytheon etc)
Assorted Biotech/Medical Device/Pharmaceutical companies
Software Companies
Telecomm companies
Consulting firms
Investment BankingI have missed plenty of others but this group comprises the vast majority of SD Counties largest employers (excluding the military of course).
I’m sure you know plenty of people who ride the trolley because that is your world. Its a bit of confirmation bias but outside of your world lies the most powerful economic engines of SD County.
June 17, 2010 at 8:01 AM #566985ParticipantBG
You proved my point and bolded what I wrote to make it even clearer. The Golden Triangle is the real white collar professional employment center.I dont disagree downtown has grown and it clearly is the judical center but prop mgment, shipbuilders and airport workers are not white collar professionals.
When I talk about the Golden Triangle area I am also referring to the areas that lie just outside of it within a mile or two as this is the general area people are commuting to. In the Golden triangle area you have:
SAIC
QualComm
UCSD
Sharp Hospital
Children’s Hospital
Law Firm’s
Stock Brokerages
Scripps Hospital
VA Hospital
Green Hospital
Scripps Institute
Fortune 500 Pharmaceutical companies
Major military contractors (Raytheon etc)
Assorted Biotech/Medical Device/Pharmaceutical companies
Software Companies
Telecomm companies
Consulting firms
Investment BankingI have missed plenty of others but this group comprises the vast majority of SD Counties largest employers (excluding the military of course).
I’m sure you know plenty of people who ride the trolley because that is your world. Its a bit of confirmation bias but outside of your world lies the most powerful economic engines of SD County.
June 17, 2010 at 8:01 AM #567270ParticipantBG
You proved my point and bolded what I wrote to make it even clearer. The Golden Triangle is the real white collar professional employment center.I dont disagree downtown has grown and it clearly is the judical center but prop mgment, shipbuilders and airport workers are not white collar professionals.
When I talk about the Golden Triangle area I am also referring to the areas that lie just outside of it within a mile or two as this is the general area people are commuting to. In the Golden triangle area you have:
SAIC
QualComm
UCSD
Sharp Hospital
Children’s Hospital
Law Firm’s
Stock Brokerages
Scripps Hospital
VA Hospital
Green Hospital
Scripps Institute
Fortune 500 Pharmaceutical companies
Major military contractors (Raytheon etc)
Assorted Biotech/Medical Device/Pharmaceutical companies
Software Companies
Telecomm companies
Consulting firms
Investment BankingI have missed plenty of others but this group comprises the vast majority of SD Counties largest employers (excluding the military of course).
I’m sure you know plenty of people who ride the trolley because that is your world. Its a bit of confirmation bias but outside of your world lies the most powerful economic engines of SD County.
June 17, 2010 at 11:00 AM #566411UCGal
Participant[quote=sdrealtor]BG
You proved my point and bolded what I wrote to make it even clearer. The Golden Triangle is the real white collar professional employment center.I dont disagree downtown has grown and it clearly is the judical center but prop mgment, shipbuilders and airport workers are not white collar professionals.
When I talk about the Golden Triangle area I am also referring to the areas that lie just outside of it within a mile or two as this is the general area people are commuting to. In the Golden triangle area you have:
SAIC
QualComm
UCSD
Sharp Hospital
Children’s Hospital
Law Firm’s
Stock Brokerages
Scripps Hospital
VA Hospital
Green Hospital
Scripps Institute
Fortune 500 Pharmaceutical companies
Major military contractors (Raytheon etc)
Assorted Biotech/Medical Device/Pharmaceutical companies
Software Companies
Telecomm companies
Consulting firms
Investment BankingI have missed plenty of others but this group comprises the vast majority of SD Counties largest employers (excluding the military of course).
I’m sure you know plenty of people who ride the trolley because that is your world. Its a bit of confirmation bias but outside of your world lies the most powerful economic engines of SD County.[/quote]
I have to agree with sdrealtor here… There are more white collar folks working around UTC, Torrey Pines, sorrento valley and sorrento mesa, than in downtown.
Heck – Qualcomm which is entirely located in the area described above (UTC, torrey pines, sorrento valley) alone probably employs more than the county employees at the county admin building and city workers who work downtown. (vs city/county workers who are outside of downtown.)
Don’t believe me – look at the traffic flow. This data is for 2006… but it’s the best I could do.
http://sandag.org/resources/demographics_and_other_data/transportation/adtv/sandiego_adt.pdf
Looking at traffic near freeway ramps…
La Jolla Village @ town centre – 63.3K cars/week.
Mira Mesa at Vista Sorrento – 78.3K cars/week
Genesee Ave @ Torrey Pines Rd – 47.3K cars/week.
Mira Mesa @ camino Ruiz – 61.5
Miramar @ Eastgate Mall – 66.9Compared to downtown… I tried to look around freeway ramps:
10th @ A – 21.3K
1st @ Ash – 27.5k
11 @ ash – 20k
G @ 17th – 21.2k
Grape @ Columbia – 31.8kI think… looking at the data, we can conclude more people commute to work in Sorrento Valley, torrey pines, UTC than commute to work downtown.
A quick look at the numbers… the numbers downtown are lower than the numbers in Kearny Mesa, which are lower than the numbers in Sorrento Valley/Torrey Pines/UTC
Fwiw – the worst traffic spot does appear to be near downtown – the stretch of North Harbor drive from Laurel to Harbor Drive… A whopping 99.2K cars/week. but that’s people commuting to the airport, not to downtown.
June 17, 2010 at 11:00 AM #566509Participant[quote=sdrealtor]BG
You proved my point and bolded what I wrote to make it even clearer. The Golden Triangle is the real white collar professional employment center.I dont disagree downtown has grown and it clearly is the judical center but prop mgment, shipbuilders and airport workers are not white collar professionals.
When I talk about the Golden Triangle area I am also referring to the areas that lie just outside of it within a mile or two as this is the general area people are commuting to. In the Golden triangle area you have:
SAIC
QualComm
UCSD
Sharp Hospital
Children’s Hospital
Law Firm’s
Stock Brokerages
Scripps Hospital
VA Hospital
Green Hospital
Scripps Institute
Fortune 500 Pharmaceutical companies
Major military contractors (Raytheon etc)
Assorted Biotech/Medical Device/Pharmaceutical companies
Software Companies
Telecomm companies
Consulting firms
Investment BankingI have missed plenty of others but this group comprises the vast majority of SD Counties largest employers (excluding the military of course).
I’m sure you know plenty of people who ride the trolley because that is your world. Its a bit of confirmation bias but outside of your world lies the most powerful economic engines of SD County.[/quote]
I have to agree with sdrealtor here… There are more white collar folks working around UTC, Torrey Pines, sorrento valley and sorrento mesa, than in downtown.
Heck – Qualcomm which is entirely located in the area described above (UTC, torrey pines, sorrento valley) alone probably employs more than the county employees at the county admin building and city workers who work downtown. (vs city/county workers who are outside of downtown.)
Don’t believe me – look at the traffic flow. This data is for 2006… but it’s the best I could do.
http://sandag.org/resources/demographics_and_other_data/transportation/adtv/sandiego_adt.pdf
Looking at traffic near freeway ramps…
La Jolla Village @ town centre – 63.3K cars/week.
Mira Mesa at Vista Sorrento – 78.3K cars/week
Genesee Ave @ Torrey Pines Rd – 47.3K cars/week.
Mira Mesa @ camino Ruiz – 61.5
Miramar @ Eastgate Mall – 66.9Compared to downtown… I tried to look around freeway ramps:
10th @ A – 21.3K
1st @ Ash – 27.5k
11 @ ash – 20k
G @ 17th – 21.2k
Grape @ Columbia – 31.8kI think… looking at the data, we can conclude more people commute to work in Sorrento Valley, torrey pines, UTC than commute to work downtown.
A quick look at the numbers… the numbers downtown are lower than the numbers in Kearny Mesa, which are lower than the numbers in Sorrento Valley/Torrey Pines/UTC
Fwiw – the worst traffic spot does appear to be near downtown – the stretch of North Harbor drive from Laurel to Harbor Drive… A whopping 99.2K cars/week. but that’s people commuting to the airport, not to downtown.
June 17, 2010 at 11:00 AM #567017Participant[quote=sdrealtor]BG
You proved my point and bolded what I wrote to make it even clearer. The Golden Triangle is the real white collar professional employment center.I dont disagree downtown has grown and it clearly is the judical center but prop mgment, shipbuilders and airport workers are not white collar professionals.
When I talk about the Golden Triangle area I am also referring to the areas that lie just outside of it within a mile or two as this is the general area people are commuting to. In the Golden triangle area you have:
SAIC
QualComm
UCSD
Sharp Hospital
Children’s Hospital
Law Firm’s
Stock Brokerages
Scripps Hospital
VA Hospital
Green Hospital
Scripps Institute
Fortune 500 Pharmaceutical companies
Major military contractors (Raytheon etc)
Assorted Biotech/Medical Device/Pharmaceutical companies
Software Companies
Telecomm companies
Consulting firms
Investment BankingI have missed plenty of others but this group comprises the vast majority of SD Counties largest employers (excluding the military of course).
I’m sure you know plenty of people who ride the trolley because that is your world. Its a bit of confirmation bias but outside of your world lies the most powerful economic engines of SD County.[/quote]
I have to agree with sdrealtor here… There are more white collar folks working around UTC, Torrey Pines, sorrento valley and sorrento mesa, than in downtown.
Heck – Qualcomm which is entirely located in the area described above (UTC, torrey pines, sorrento valley) alone probably employs more than the county employees at the county admin building and city workers who work downtown. (vs city/county workers who are outside of downtown.)
Don’t believe me – look at the traffic flow. This data is for 2006… but it’s the best I could do.
http://sandag.org/resources/demographics_and_other_data/transportation/adtv/sandiego_adt.pdf
Looking at traffic near freeway ramps…
La Jolla Village @ town centre – 63.3K cars/week.
Mira Mesa at Vista Sorrento – 78.3K cars/week
Genesee Ave @ Torrey Pines Rd – 47.3K cars/week.
Mira Mesa @ camino Ruiz – 61.5
Miramar @ Eastgate Mall – 66.9Compared to downtown… I tried to look around freeway ramps:
10th @ A – 21.3K
1st @ Ash – 27.5k
11 @ ash – 20k
G @ 17th – 21.2k
Grape @ Columbia – 31.8kI think… looking at the data, we can conclude more people commute to work in Sorrento Valley, torrey pines, UTC than commute to work downtown.
A quick look at the numbers… the numbers downtown are lower than the numbers in Kearny Mesa, which are lower than the numbers in Sorrento Valley/Torrey Pines/UTC
Fwiw – the worst traffic spot does appear to be near downtown – the stretch of North Harbor drive from Laurel to Harbor Drive… A whopping 99.2K cars/week. but that’s people commuting to the airport, not to downtown.
June 17, 2010 at 11:00 AM #567124Participant[quote=sdrealtor]BG
You proved my point and bolded what I wrote to make it even clearer. The Golden Triangle is the real white collar professional employment center.I dont disagree downtown has grown and it clearly is the judical center but prop mgment, shipbuilders and airport workers are not white collar professionals.
When I talk about the Golden Triangle area I am also referring to the areas that lie just outside of it within a mile or two as this is the general area people are commuting to. In the Golden triangle area you have:
SAIC
QualComm
UCSD
Sharp Hospital
Children’s Hospital
Law Firm’s
Stock Brokerages
Scripps Hospital
VA Hospital
Green Hospital
Scripps Institute
Fortune 500 Pharmaceutical companies
Major military contractors (Raytheon etc)
Assorted Biotech/Medical Device/Pharmaceutical companies
Software Companies
Telecomm companies
Consulting firms
Investment BankingI have missed plenty of others but this group comprises the vast majority of SD Counties largest employers (excluding the military of course).
I’m sure you know plenty of people who ride the trolley because that is your world. Its a bit of confirmation bias but outside of your world lies the most powerful economic engines of SD County.[/quote]
I have to agree with sdrealtor here… There are more white collar folks working around UTC, Torrey Pines, sorrento valley and sorrento mesa, than in downtown.
Heck – Qualcomm which is entirely located in the area described above (UTC, torrey pines, sorrento valley) alone probably employs more than the county employees at the county admin building and city workers who work downtown. (vs city/county workers who are outside of downtown.)
Don’t believe me – look at the traffic flow. This data is for 2006… but it’s the best I could do.
http://sandag.org/resources/demographics_and_other_data/transportation/adtv/sandiego_adt.pdf
Looking at traffic near freeway ramps…
La Jolla Village @ town centre – 63.3K cars/week.
Mira Mesa at Vista Sorrento – 78.3K cars/week
Genesee Ave @ Torrey Pines Rd – 47.3K cars/week.
Mira Mesa @ camino Ruiz – 61.5
Miramar @ Eastgate Mall – 66.9Compared to downtown… I tried to look around freeway ramps:
10th @ A – 21.3K
1st @ Ash – 27.5k
11 @ ash – 20k
G @ 17th – 21.2k
Grape @ Columbia – 31.8kI think… looking at the data, we can conclude more people commute to work in Sorrento Valley, torrey pines, UTC than commute to work downtown.
A quick look at the numbers… the numbers downtown are lower than the numbers in Kearny Mesa, which are lower than the numbers in Sorrento Valley/Torrey Pines/UTC
Fwiw – the worst traffic spot does appear to be near downtown – the stretch of North Harbor drive from Laurel to Harbor Drive… A whopping 99.2K cars/week. but that’s people commuting to the airport, not to downtown.
June 17, 2010 at 11:00 AM #567409Participant[quote=sdrealtor]BG
You proved my point and bolded what I wrote to make it even clearer. The Golden Triangle is the real white collar professional employment center.I dont disagree downtown has grown and it clearly is the judical center but prop mgment, shipbuilders and airport workers are not white collar professionals.
When I talk about the Golden Triangle area I am also referring to the areas that lie just outside of it within a mile or two as this is the general area people are commuting to. In the Golden triangle area you have:
SAIC
QualComm
UCSD
Sharp Hospital
Children’s Hospital
Law Firm’s
Stock Brokerages
Scripps Hospital
VA Hospital
Green Hospital
Scripps Institute
Fortune 500 Pharmaceutical companies
Major military contractors (Raytheon etc)
Assorted Biotech/Medical Device/Pharmaceutical companies
Software Companies
Telecomm companies
Consulting firms
Investment BankingI have missed plenty of others but this group comprises the vast majority of SD Counties largest employers (excluding the military of course).
I’m sure you know plenty of people who ride the trolley because that is your world. Its a bit of confirmation bias but outside of your world lies the most powerful economic engines of SD County.[/quote]
I have to agree with sdrealtor here… There are more white collar folks working around UTC, Torrey Pines, sorrento valley and sorrento mesa, than in downtown.
Heck – Qualcomm which is entirely located in the area described above (UTC, torrey pines, sorrento valley) alone probably employs more than the county employees at the county admin building and city workers who work downtown. (vs city/county workers who are outside of downtown.)
Don’t believe me – look at the traffic flow. This data is for 2006… but it’s the best I could do.
http://sandag.org/resources/demographics_and_other_data/transportation/adtv/sandiego_adt.pdf
Looking at traffic near freeway ramps…
La Jolla Village @ town centre – 63.3K cars/week.
Mira Mesa at Vista Sorrento – 78.3K cars/week
Genesee Ave @ Torrey Pines Rd – 47.3K cars/week.
Mira Mesa @ camino Ruiz – 61.5
Miramar @ Eastgate Mall – 66.9Compared to downtown… I tried to look around freeway ramps:
10th @ A – 21.3K
1st @ Ash – 27.5k
11 @ ash – 20k
G @ 17th – 21.2k
Grape @ Columbia – 31.8kI think… looking at the data, we can conclude more people commute to work in Sorrento Valley, torrey pines, UTC than commute to work downtown.
A quick look at the numbers… the numbers downtown are lower than the numbers in Kearny Mesa, which are lower than the numbers in Sorrento Valley/Torrey Pines/UTC
Fwiw – the worst traffic spot does appear to be near downtown – the stretch of North Harbor drive from Laurel to Harbor Drive… A whopping 99.2K cars/week. but that’s people commuting to the airport, not to downtown.
June 17, 2010 at 11:05 AM #566416ParticipantTo be fair we would want to add all the folks on the trolley but even with that you wouldnt get anywhere close. There are also a fair number of people that take the Coaster to Sorrento Valley and get picke dup by shuttles which negates some of that trolley traffic.
June 17, 2010 at 11:05 AM #566514ParticipantTo be fair we would want to add all the folks on the trolley but even with that you wouldnt get anywhere close. There are also a fair number of people that take the Coaster to Sorrento Valley and get picke dup by shuttles which negates some of that trolley traffic.
June 17, 2010 at 11:05 AM #567022ParticipantTo be fair we would want to add all the folks on the trolley but even with that you wouldnt get anywhere close. There are also a fair number of people that take the Coaster to Sorrento Valley and get picke dup by shuttles which negates some of that trolley traffic.
June 17, 2010 at 11:05 AM #567129ParticipantTo be fair we would want to add all the folks on the trolley but even with that you wouldnt get anywhere close. There are also a fair number of people that take the Coaster to Sorrento Valley and get picke dup by shuttles which negates some of that trolley traffic.
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