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[zk]

I’m curious if anybody (besides Paramount) thinks the republicans are doing the right thing in this situation.

[NicMM]

Back to the health care cost. In Bay Area, I found there are some for profit doctor groups which don’t take insurance at all. But their charges are very reasonable. I took my foreign visiting family members there, the visit is $90 each. Lab work is a little over $100. Medicines like antibiotics, blood pressure medicine or Lipitor is $10 ~ $15 a bottle. It is totally affordable to go there.

[no_such_reality]

[quote=zk]I’m curious if anybody (besides Paramount) thinks the republicans are doing the right thing in this situation.[/quote]

They’ve done everything but just capitulate to what Harry and Barack want.

You don’t hear that in the media though and they’re getting the blame.

And they’re focused on the wrong discussion. The right discussion is the debt.

The rule of any show down is picking your fight, they’ve done a horrible job of picking the right fight. Frankly, IMHO, they should give Obama everything he wants, and tie ribbon around the Democrats in the 2014 election when everything is still the same.

[SK in CV]

[quote=no_such_reality]
They’ve done everything but just capitulate to what Harry and Barack want.

You don’t hear that in the media though and they’re getting the blame.

And they’re focused on the wrong discussion. The right discussion is the debt.

The rule of any show down is picking your fight, they’ve done a horrible job of picking the right fight. Frankly, IMHO, they should give Obama everything he wants, and tie ribbon around the Democrats in the 2014 election when everything is still the same.[/quote]

that’s a joke, right?

[The-Shoveler]

“Back to the health care cost. In Bay Area, I found there are some for profit doctor groups which don’t take insurance at all. But their charges are very reasonable.”

Yea just don’t have a heart attack of fall off a ladder.

[ucodegen]

[quote=6packscaredy]If the shutdown is the solution there will be no more governance by majority.[/quote]No, it demonstrates that what was once the majority, is no longer. Don’t forget the effects of swing voters. The House changes faster than the Senate due to the length of term in office and how often we vote for them.
[quote=NicMM]Back to the health care cost. In Bay Area, I found there are some for profit doctor groups which don’t take insurance at all. But their charges are very reasonable. I took my foreign visiting family members there, the visit is $90 each. Lab work is a little over $100. Medicines like antibiotics, blood pressure medicine or Lipitor is $10 ~ $15 a bottle. It is totally affordable to go there.[/quote]I found something similar when I told places that I would pay cash.. that they did not have to deal with insurance.

[scaredyclassic]

Why not just repeal the law then?
Or at least allow a vote to see whee each rep stands.

[SK in CV]

[quote=6packscaredy]Why not just repeal the law then?
Or at least allow a vote to see whee each rep stands.[/quote]

They have done that. The republican majority in the house has passed bills repealing the ACA over 30 times. None of them could ever get to a vote in the Senate and there is no chance of the president ever signing it into law, nor any chance of a veto proof majority in either chamber of congress. The first time may have been a nice show. Every time since then has been no more than a waste of time and money.

[scaredyclassic]

Ah. It appears they have more work to do at the polls if they want to operate as a democracy.

[zk]

[quote=no_such_reality]
They’ve done everything but just capitulate to what Harry and Barack want.

You don’t hear that in the media though and they’re getting the blame.

And they’re focused on the wrong discussion. The right discussion is the debt.

The rule of any show down is picking your fight, they’ve done a horrible job of picking the right fight. Frankly, IMHO, they should give Obama everything he wants, and tie ribbon around the Democrats in the 2014 election when everything is still the same.[/quote]

Fascinating. What, exactly, does “everything but just capitulate to what Harry and Barack want” consist of?

[FlyerInHi]

I just watched Rand Paul on Meet the Press on DVR. The guy looks tired like he’s lacking sleep.

First it was about defunding Obamacare, now it’s the debt. So it looks like the GOP has given up on the defund ACA goal.

Paul said the market is worried about our debt. But how is the market showing it? Rates are low. So either you believe in the market or you don’t. I still remember from finance that the value of something represents the stream of future returns and all the information available. The Republicans have been sounding the alarms but the market is apparently not listening.

[scaredyclassic]

i think the idea is to destroy the economy so that they can save the economy. and claim that the economy was destroyed or about to implode anyway.

which could be true, i s uppose. hell it’s what ive been expecting for years until i bought into the whole leveraged real estate hallucination.

but it’s still murder to kill a dying human being.

and it’s still kinda nutty to try to upend the global financial system without a plan in place…

[paramount]

What I don’t understand is that since govt workers are going to get back pay for no work, why not just send them back to work now?

[ocrenter]

Obamacare VS. Affordable Care Act 🙂

[livinincali]

[quote=FlyerInHi]First it was about defunding Obamacare, now it’s the debt. So it looks like the GOP has given up on the defund ACA goal.
[/quote]

Yeah I think they’ve seen the fairly rocky start for Obamacare and might just let it play out as a possible disaster. Note the switch from Obamacare to the ACA in order to distance the president from the initial poor implementation. I can pretty much guarantee it will only be referred to as Obamacare if it works and the ACA if it turns out to be a disaster that I expect it to become.

I think a lot of people really thought Obamacare was going to be “free” health insurance but as they actually look at it the people are realizing that it isn’t free and actually it’s quite expensive. The young and healthy will probably start screaming soon when they realize they are going to be paying a weekend of fun every month for something they probably aren’t going to need to use.

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