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[zk]

[quote=SK in CV]

Best tweet of the week:

Can I burn down your house?

No

Just the 2nd floor?

No

Garage?

No

Let’s talk about what I can burn down.

No

YOU AREN’T COMPROMISING!

https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/385468973971951616%5B/quote%5D

Very nice. And yet there are people who think this is all the democrats fault for refusing to negotiate.

Check out the quotes from the congresspeople in this article:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/10/32-republicans-who-caused-the-government-shutdown/280236/

Most of them are nonsense. A lot of them are about how the democrats are refusing to negotiate.

They say, “nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.”

I think you could also say, “no politician ever lost a race underestimating the intelligence of the American public.”

[zk]

My favorite is Marlin Stutzman:

“We aren’t going to be disrespected. We have to get something out of this. And I don’t know what that even is.”

It would seem he would think this is what his constituents want to hear. The sad part is, it probably is.

[scaredyclassic]

think it’s like an argument between spouses. eventually into the argument, they’re not even sure what they’re arguing about any longer. they’re arguing about the process of arguing , who said what to whom and how, who disrespected whom, pastgrievances, general faults, disaatisfaction wit life, and etc.

and then you get out on a limb and say some crazy shit and it’s hard to backtrack.

and you’re just pissed off…

i would be willing to bet that some of this is related to less than happy home life for many of these representatives…

im NOT saying ALL the republicans are repressed gays or ALL the democrats are philandering hound dogs. im sure there’s some repressed gays among the dems and some horndogs amongst the repubs.

just saying they’re frustrated…

[scaredyclassic]

can we agree at least that if everyone were happily getting laid and were happy at home they’d not say such asinine shit and would probably be more willing to actually work together?

[FlyerInHi]

I’m willing to go with whichever philosophy that will get me laid more.

[scaredyclassic]

http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21587211-land-free-starting-look-ungovernable-enough-enough-no-way-run-country

the economist is a generally pretty reasonable publciation

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=6packscaredy]http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21587211-land-free-starting-look-ungovernable-enough-enough-no-way-run-country

the economist is a generally pretty reasonable publciation[/quote]

Pretty reasonable article.

I like it that they put a GDP number cost to the shutdown. It’s hard to believe that the Republicans, the supposed party of capitalism, would purposefully cause economic loses.

spdrun, I think the real estate market will slow down this winter. I’m talking to my friends and family about identifying some buying opportunities.

[ucodegen]

[quote=SK in CV]See §3025 regarding hospital readmission penalties.

The MLR floors cap the insurance premiums, thereby reducing overall cost of medical insurance. Medical insurance is an element of total medical costs.[/quote]I’ll look at the section later.. tis late. on the MLR, it only caps the ‘skim’ of the insurance companies.

Dealing with Hospital Readmission could bite both ways. By the title/description, doesn’t deal much with direct costs.. but will take a look.

[ucodegen]

[quote=zk]
I think you could also say, “no politician ever lost a race underestimating the intelligence of the American public.”[/quote]
That one can bite both ways w/ respect to Obama, Obamacare, GOP.. you name it.

[paramount]

The low information crowd has been conned into: Why can’t they get this solved an open the govt back up!?

This shutdown IS the solution.

*The fed govt is way to big
*Far, far to many rely on the fed govt for any number of things which should be state or private sector or charity.

[scaredyclassic]

If the shutdown is the solution there will be no more governance by majority.

The minority on any law can say no further gov unless we get our way.

This is the end.

But many among us have been hoping for apocalyptic type events.

This could be it.

I don’t think this is smart in the long run.

I doubt this makes us stronger.

Or richer.

[bearishgurl]

I just called and the commissary at 32nd St NAVSTA SD has opened back up for regular business hours beginning this morning. That’s good news.

[paramount]

[quote=bearishgurl]I just called and the commissary at 32nd St NAVSTA SD has opened back up for regular business hours beginning this morning. That’s good news.[/quote]

Is the 32nd St NAVSTA really just code for you’re going to wal mart?

[bearishgurl]

[quote=paramount][quote=bearishgurl]I just called and the commissary at 32nd St NAVSTA SD has opened back up for regular business hours beginning this morning. That’s good news.[/quote]

Is the 32nd St NAVSTA really just code for you’re going to wal mart?[/quote]

Actually, you’ll find me at Walmart only if I’m dropping someone off there who doesn’t drive. OR, if I am in flyover America where there is absolutely nothing else to choose from :=]

The military commissaries have all brand names, including good quality food, toiletries and household items without the huge markup of Ralph’s, Vons, and Albertsons. Their prices, selection and quality beat the h@ll out of Walmart. They add a 5.9% “surcharge” at the register for the benefit of military MWR installations but do not charge tax on non-food items. At patron *should* tip the bagger 2.5 – 3% of their tab, if they have carryout service as this is their only payment. Otherwise, tip $1 for 15 items or less in the express lines and self carry out. Self checkout express lines do not require a tip. Even with surcharge and tip, a commissary shopper will likely save over 40% on their grocery bill in the absence of coupons (which can be used anywhere). This is because their mdse is only marked up enough to be self-sustaining … that is, pay for the workers who work there and the utilities and supplies needed to run it. As such, it is a non-profit enterprise for the benefit of active duty and retired personnel and their families and select reservists at certain windows which expire, depending upon the reservist’s schedule. It is possible to be a retired reservist and retain commissary privileges for life but the length of service required is longer than that of an active duty member.

I think the military exchanges are not terribly competitive price-wise with outside stores but the commissary is an awesome privilege which I am going to miss. It doesn’t matter much anyway, since my kids will all be gone and I will probably move somewhere which is far from a military commissary.

[bearishgurl]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/10/07/military-commissaries-reopening-shutdown/2936685/

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