should I buy in temecula

[UCGal]

[quote=temeculaguy]Because I read that alot on other threads, how 40 years ago a blue collar worker could live in carlsbad with a stay at home wife and life was good. It’s probably true, but it’s not true anymore and I don’t believe it will be true again. [/quote]

I’m one of the folks who’s made comments along those lines. But what people expect to buy now is not the same as what they expected to buy 40 years ago.

Jim the Realtor posted a trulia.com article about McMansions… turns out the term was coined here in San Diego in 1990 – probably in response to the Carlsbad tracts that went in around that time. Bigger and bigger houses, on smaller lots.

From the article

For a little historical context, 1,200 square feet was the average home size in America in the 1960s. That grew to 1,710 square feet in the 1980s and 2,330 square feet in the 2000s.

50 years ago 1200 sf houses were the norm. You can extrapolate that 40 years ago it was around 1500 sf. Now people feel deprived if they can’t get 3000 sf.

I have friends who bought in the early 90’s up in Carlsbad. At the time, it was a trade off of commute time for size of home the same way this thread talks about commuting from Temecula. But my friends were a Marine who worked at MCRD and his wife who was an office manager in Del Mar. They were thrilled to get a 3000 sf house… less thrilled to have a backyard that was only 15 feet deep.

I worked in Oceanside in the late 80’s – commuting from downtown San Diego. For me, personally, I made the decision to never have a commute over 30 minutes each way again. I’ve lived in less fancy, but more expensive, homes as a consequence. But it’s a decision I have not regreted. But, that’s my metrics/choice. I understand the desire for a bigger, affordable house, and the tradeoffs people make.

[paramount]

TG: Thanks for the advice I really do appreciate it and in many ways you are right except for one: I am actually a positive person in spite of the following:

1. Our endless wars and the human costs of those wars

2. My neighbor is deploying next week and has deployed so many times that he has almost lost count (22+ years)

3. In the last year I have watched ~1000 people get walked out the door at my work

4. I count 5 foreclosures literally within 200 feet of my house – it seems like foreclosure activity has really picked up in my area.

5. Our elementary school in a substantial way was tagged by gangs (based on the tag) this past week.

6. And oh yah, I have been financially wrecked by my decision to move to Temecula.

But again, I am truly positive. I spent $300 bucks just last week sprucing up the front of my house despite all of the brown lawns around me.

[paramount]

TG: Thanks for the advice I really do appreciate it and in many ways you are right except for one: I am actually a positive person in spite of the following:

1. Our endless wars and the human costs of those wars

2. My neighbor is deploying next week and has deployed so many times that he has almost lost count (22+ years)

3. In the last year I have watched ~1000 people get walked out the door at my work

4. I count 5 foreclosures literally within 200 feet of my house – it seems like foreclosure activity has really picked up in my area.

5. Our elementary school in a substantial way was tagged by gangs (based on the tag) this past week.

6. And oh yah, I have been financially wrecked by my decision to move to Temecula.

But again, I am truly positive. I spent $300 bucks just last week sprucing up the front of my house despite all of the brown lawns around me.

[paramount]

TG: Thanks for the advice I really do appreciate it and in many ways you are right except for one: I am actually a positive person in spite of the following:

1. Our endless wars and the human costs of those wars

2. My neighbor is deploying next week and has deployed so many times that he has almost lost count (22+ years)

3. In the last year I have watched ~1000 people get walked out the door at my work

4. I count 5 foreclosures literally within 200 feet of my house – it seems like foreclosure activity has really picked up in my area.

5. Our elementary school in a substantial way was tagged by gangs (based on the tag) this past week.

6. And oh yah, I have been financially wrecked by my decision to move to Temecula.

But again, I am truly positive. I spent $300 bucks just last week sprucing up the front of my house despite all of the brown lawns around me.

[paramount]

TG: Thanks for the advice I really do appreciate it and in many ways you are right except for one: I am actually a positive person in spite of the following:

1. Our endless wars and the human costs of those wars

2. My neighbor is deploying next week and has deployed so many times that he has almost lost count (22+ years)

3. In the last year I have watched ~1000 people get walked out the door at my work

4. I count 5 foreclosures literally within 200 feet of my house – it seems like foreclosure activity has really picked up in my area.

5. Our elementary school in a substantial way was tagged by gangs (based on the tag) this past week.

6. And oh yah, I have been financially wrecked by my decision to move to Temecula.

But again, I am truly positive. I spent $300 bucks just last week sprucing up the front of my house despite all of the brown lawns around me.

[paramount]

TG: Thanks for the advice I really do appreciate it and in many ways you are right except for one: I am actually a positive person in spite of the following:

1. Our endless wars and the human costs of those wars

2. My neighbor is deploying next week and has deployed so many times that he has almost lost count (22+ years)

3. In the last year I have watched ~1000 people get walked out the door at my work

4. I count 5 foreclosures literally within 200 feet of my house – it seems like foreclosure activity has really picked up in my area.

5. Our elementary school in a substantial way was tagged by gangs (based on the tag) this past week.

6. And oh yah, I have been financially wrecked by my decision to move to Temecula.

But again, I am truly positive. I spent $300 bucks just last week sprucing up the front of my house despite all of the brown lawns around me.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=smshorttimer]Now if it’s T-town or gangland Oceanside, I reckon I choose the former, too.[/quote]

[quote=carlsbadworker]If the house price is only $100-200K higher (for similar house) in Carlsbad, then I might be living in Carlsbad right now. But it is 3 times higher. So I will be living in TV waiting for the rest of San Diego adjusting to a more reasonable price. It is better than buying a crappy house in Carlsbad for me.[/quote](emphasis added)

This is exactly my point here. Correct me if I’m wrong but you each have listed just ONE choice in SD County that you had previously considered purchasing a residence in.

CW, I’m just not seeing the constellation that living in Carlsbad would be 3 times higher (or cost 3x more) than living in TV. Does this assumption include your mo. gas exp., MR expense and are you paying off the same long-term water/sewer bond that TG is, and if so, does it include that, too? How much does the use of A/C run up your utilities annually? What if you applied all or some of these mo. expenses attributable to TV to a SD County older property’s rehab and maintenance. Had you ever thought you might later have MORE net worth (in the form of “sweat equity”) if you took this route?

If you work in Carlsbad and couldn’t find a suitable property there when you were in the market, why didn’t you consider SEVERAL choices in SD County before moving far away from your employment?? Had you ever thought of commuting to Carlsbad from Vista, San Marcos or Escondido? Why do you think it would cost 3 times as much or even 2 times as much to live in Carlsbad OR a point <= 20 mi. from work? Why would/should this cost any more at all? smshorttimer, is ALL of Oceanside gang-ridden or are you just referring to a very small pocket? Do you live in SD County now, and if so, do you own your residence? Where do you work? Where would you PREFER to live, given your employment parameters? Not trying to gang up on anybody here. I realize there are different strokes for different folks. Just trying to understand the psychology behind RE buyers who favor long-distance commuting over a much easier life and why entire cities, towns and uninc jurisdictions are rejected wholesale by them, often without even being considered or "checked out." This is what I've seen happen not only in SD County, but LA County and, to a lesser extent, Orange Co :=[

[bearishgurl]

[quote=smshorttimer]Now if it’s T-town or gangland Oceanside, I reckon I choose the former, too.[/quote]

[quote=carlsbadworker]If the house price is only $100-200K higher (for similar house) in Carlsbad, then I might be living in Carlsbad right now. But it is 3 times higher. So I will be living in TV waiting for the rest of San Diego adjusting to a more reasonable price. It is better than buying a crappy house in Carlsbad for me.[/quote](emphasis added)

This is exactly my point here. Correct me if I’m wrong but you each have listed just ONE choice in SD County that you had previously considered purchasing a residence in.

CW, I’m just not seeing the constellation that living in Carlsbad would be 3 times higher (or cost 3x more) than living in TV. Does this assumption include your mo. gas exp., MR expense and are you paying off the same long-term water/sewer bond that TG is, and if so, does it include that, too? How much does the use of A/C run up your utilities annually? What if you applied all or some of these mo. expenses attributable to TV to a SD County older property’s rehab and maintenance. Had you ever thought you might later have MORE net worth (in the form of “sweat equity”) if you took this route?

If you work in Carlsbad and couldn’t find a suitable property there when you were in the market, why didn’t you consider SEVERAL choices in SD County before moving far away from your employment?? Had you ever thought of commuting to Carlsbad from Vista, San Marcos or Escondido? Why do you think it would cost 3 times as much or even 2 times as much to live in Carlsbad OR a point <= 20 mi. from work? Why would/should this cost any more at all? smshorttimer, is ALL of Oceanside gang-ridden or are you just referring to a very small pocket? Do you live in SD County now, and if so, do you own your residence? Where do you work? Where would you PREFER to live, given your employment parameters? Not trying to gang up on anybody here. I realize there are different strokes for different folks. Just trying to understand the psychology behind RE buyers who favor long-distance commuting over a much easier life and why entire cities, towns and uninc jurisdictions are rejected wholesale by them, often without even being considered or "checked out." This is what I've seen happen not only in SD County, but LA County and, to a lesser extent, Orange Co :=[

[bearishgurl]

[quote=smshorttimer]Now if it’s T-town or gangland Oceanside, I reckon I choose the former, too.[/quote]

[quote=carlsbadworker]If the house price is only $100-200K higher (for similar house) in Carlsbad, then I might be living in Carlsbad right now. But it is 3 times higher. So I will be living in TV waiting for the rest of San Diego adjusting to a more reasonable price. It is better than buying a crappy house in Carlsbad for me.[/quote](emphasis added)

This is exactly my point here. Correct me if I’m wrong but you each have listed just ONE choice in SD County that you had previously considered purchasing a residence in.

CW, I’m just not seeing the constellation that living in Carlsbad would be 3 times higher (or cost 3x more) than living in TV. Does this assumption include your mo. gas exp., MR expense and are you paying off the same long-term water/sewer bond that TG is, and if so, does it include that, too? How much does the use of A/C run up your utilities annually? What if you applied all or some of these mo. expenses attributable to TV to a SD County older property’s rehab and maintenance. Had you ever thought you might later have MORE net worth (in the form of “sweat equity”) if you took this route?

If you work in Carlsbad and couldn’t find a suitable property there when you were in the market, why didn’t you consider SEVERAL choices in SD County before moving far away from your employment?? Had you ever thought of commuting to Carlsbad from Vista, San Marcos or Escondido? Why do you think it would cost 3 times as much or even 2 times as much to live in Carlsbad OR a point <= 20 mi. from work? Why would/should this cost any more at all? smshorttimer, is ALL of Oceanside gang-ridden or are you just referring to a very small pocket? Do you live in SD County now, and if so, do you own your residence? Where do you work? Where would you PREFER to live, given your employment parameters? Not trying to gang up on anybody here. I realize there are different strokes for different folks. Just trying to understand the psychology behind RE buyers who favor long-distance commuting over a much easier life and why entire cities, towns and uninc jurisdictions are rejected wholesale by them, often without even being considered or "checked out." This is what I've seen happen not only in SD County, but LA County and, to a lesser extent, Orange Co :=[

[bearishgurl]

[quote=smshorttimer]Now if it’s T-town or gangland Oceanside, I reckon I choose the former, too.[/quote]

[quote=carlsbadworker]If the house price is only $100-200K higher (for similar house) in Carlsbad, then I might be living in Carlsbad right now. But it is 3 times higher. So I will be living in TV waiting for the rest of San Diego adjusting to a more reasonable price. It is better than buying a crappy house in Carlsbad for me.[/quote](emphasis added)

This is exactly my point here. Correct me if I’m wrong but you each have listed just ONE choice in SD County that you had previously considered purchasing a residence in.

CW, I’m just not seeing the constellation that living in Carlsbad would be 3 times higher (or cost 3x more) than living in TV. Does this assumption include your mo. gas exp., MR expense and are you paying off the same long-term water/sewer bond that TG is, and if so, does it include that, too? How much does the use of A/C run up your utilities annually? What if you applied all or some of these mo. expenses attributable to TV to a SD County older property’s rehab and maintenance. Had you ever thought you might later have MORE net worth (in the form of “sweat equity”) if you took this route?

If you work in Carlsbad and couldn’t find a suitable property there when you were in the market, why didn’t you consider SEVERAL choices in SD County before moving far away from your employment?? Had you ever thought of commuting to Carlsbad from Vista, San Marcos or Escondido? Why do you think it would cost 3 times as much or even 2 times as much to live in Carlsbad OR a point <= 20 mi. from work? Why would/should this cost any more at all? smshorttimer, is ALL of Oceanside gang-ridden or are you just referring to a very small pocket? Do you live in SD County now, and if so, do you own your residence? Where do you work? Where would you PREFER to live, given your employment parameters? Not trying to gang up on anybody here. I realize there are different strokes for different folks. Just trying to understand the psychology behind RE buyers who favor long-distance commuting over a much easier life and why entire cities, towns and uninc jurisdictions are rejected wholesale by them, often without even being considered or "checked out." This is what I've seen happen not only in SD County, but LA County and, to a lesser extent, Orange Co :=[

[bearishgurl]

[quote=smshorttimer]Now if it’s T-town or gangland Oceanside, I reckon I choose the former, too.[/quote]

[quote=carlsbadworker]If the house price is only $100-200K higher (for similar house) in Carlsbad, then I might be living in Carlsbad right now. But it is 3 times higher. So I will be living in TV waiting for the rest of San Diego adjusting to a more reasonable price. It is better than buying a crappy house in Carlsbad for me.[/quote](emphasis added)

This is exactly my point here. Correct me if I’m wrong but you each have listed just ONE choice in SD County that you had previously considered purchasing a residence in.

CW, I’m just not seeing the constellation that living in Carlsbad would be 3 times higher (or cost 3x more) than living in TV. Does this assumption include your mo. gas exp., MR expense and are you paying off the same long-term water/sewer bond that TG is, and if so, does it include that, too? How much does the use of A/C run up your utilities annually? What if you applied all or some of these mo. expenses attributable to TV to a SD County older property’s rehab and maintenance. Had you ever thought you might later have MORE net worth (in the form of “sweat equity”) if you took this route?

If you work in Carlsbad and couldn’t find a suitable property there when you were in the market, why didn’t you consider SEVERAL choices in SD County before moving far away from your employment?? Had you ever thought of commuting to Carlsbad from Vista, San Marcos or Escondido? Why do you think it would cost 3 times as much or even 2 times as much to live in Carlsbad OR a point <= 20 mi. from work? Why would/should this cost any more at all? smshorttimer, is ALL of Oceanside gang-ridden or are you just referring to a very small pocket? Do you live in SD County now, and if so, do you own your residence? Where do you work? Where would you PREFER to live, given your employment parameters? Not trying to gang up on anybody here. I realize there are different strokes for different folks. Just trying to understand the psychology behind RE buyers who favor long-distance commuting over a much easier life and why entire cities, towns and uninc jurisdictions are rejected wholesale by them, often without even being considered or "checked out." This is what I've seen happen not only in SD County, but LA County and, to a lesser extent, Orange Co :=[

[bearishgurl]

[quote=paramount] . . . But again, I am truly positive. I spent $300 bucks just last week sprucing up the front of my house despite all of the brown lawns around me.[/quote]

paramount, this is an excellent use of $$, IMO. It will vastly help your curb appeal in a sea of brown lawns if you decide to list your property (short or otherwise) so you can move forward with your life.

I can’t list at the present and there is no foreclosure activity currently surrounding me, but I have recently and am doing same :=)

[bearishgurl]

[quote=paramount] . . . But again, I am truly positive. I spent $300 bucks just last week sprucing up the front of my house despite all of the brown lawns around me.[/quote]

paramount, this is an excellent use of $$, IMO. It will vastly help your curb appeal in a sea of brown lawns if you decide to list your property (short or otherwise) so you can move forward with your life.

I can’t list at the present and there is no foreclosure activity currently surrounding me, but I have recently and am doing same :=)

[bearishgurl]

[quote=paramount] . . . But again, I am truly positive. I spent $300 bucks just last week sprucing up the front of my house despite all of the brown lawns around me.[/quote]

paramount, this is an excellent use of $$, IMO. It will vastly help your curb appeal in a sea of brown lawns if you decide to list your property (short or otherwise) so you can move forward with your life.

I can’t list at the present and there is no foreclosure activity currently surrounding me, but I have recently and am doing same :=)

[bearishgurl]

[quote=paramount] . . . But again, I am truly positive. I spent $300 bucks just last week sprucing up the front of my house despite all of the brown lawns around me.[/quote]

paramount, this is an excellent use of $$, IMO. It will vastly help your curb appeal in a sea of brown lawns if you decide to list your property (short or otherwise) so you can move forward with your life.

I can’t list at the present and there is no foreclosure activity currently surrounding me, but I have recently and am doing same :=)

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