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August 13, 2010 at 9:20 PM #591668August 13, 2010 at 9:53 PM #590634CA renterParticipant
sdr,
You’ll get no disagreement from me, and that’s exactly what I said in my post above — there is no right or wrong way to teach kids. Every child and every parent is different, to be sure. While I don’t think parents have to be teachers in order to homeschool (not at all), it makes it easier for us.
August 13, 2010 at 9:53 PM #590728CA renterParticipantsdr,
You’ll get no disagreement from me, and that’s exactly what I said in my post above — there is no right or wrong way to teach kids. Every child and every parent is different, to be sure. While I don’t think parents have to be teachers in order to homeschool (not at all), it makes it easier for us.
August 13, 2010 at 9:53 PM #591265CA renterParticipantsdr,
You’ll get no disagreement from me, and that’s exactly what I said in my post above — there is no right or wrong way to teach kids. Every child and every parent is different, to be sure. While I don’t think parents have to be teachers in order to homeschool (not at all), it makes it easier for us.
August 13, 2010 at 9:53 PM #591374CA renterParticipantsdr,
You’ll get no disagreement from me, and that’s exactly what I said in my post above — there is no right or wrong way to teach kids. Every child and every parent is different, to be sure. While I don’t think parents have to be teachers in order to homeschool (not at all), it makes it easier for us.
August 13, 2010 at 9:53 PM #591683CA renterParticipantsdr,
You’ll get no disagreement from me, and that’s exactly what I said in my post above — there is no right or wrong way to teach kids. Every child and every parent is different, to be sure. While I don’t think parents have to be teachers in order to homeschool (not at all), it makes it easier for us.
August 14, 2010 at 6:48 PM #590899bearishgurlParticipant[quote=walterwhite]. . . And all this emphasis on formal education, paid education, isn’t it all part of what is the next enormous bubble to burst — the student loan debt bubble? I’m about paid off on my massive debt — but i’ll be damned if i let me kids get sucked into massive debt. Isn’t that what educators wan- to prepare you for a “good college” with a hefty amount of indebtedness? Isn’t that what the system churns out?[/quote]
Completely agree, scaredy. I continually counsel my kids NOT to take out ANY student loans and help out wherever and however I can. The student-loan scam is a huge social debacle – a “failed experiment” and SO not worth it! WHO CARES if it takes a little longer than four years to get a degree?
I am acquainted with a middle-aged person who all of a sudden decided to seek a student loan for a “graduate degree.” We’re talkin’ 50-something here. What the he!! for at this late date? WHO WILL HIRE THEM UPON GRADUATION?? IMO, if they “successfully” earn their masters degree or doctorate, they’re just rendering themselves MORE unmarketable in this economy :=|. Then, they’ll be carrying their “student loans” into their retirement years – lol!
I’m not a pessimist, just a REALIST! The time where they needed to find out what they wanted to be when they grew up has PASSED . . . 25+ years ago . . . lol.
August 14, 2010 at 6:48 PM #590993bearishgurlParticipant[quote=walterwhite]. . . And all this emphasis on formal education, paid education, isn’t it all part of what is the next enormous bubble to burst — the student loan debt bubble? I’m about paid off on my massive debt — but i’ll be damned if i let me kids get sucked into massive debt. Isn’t that what educators wan- to prepare you for a “good college” with a hefty amount of indebtedness? Isn’t that what the system churns out?[/quote]
Completely agree, scaredy. I continually counsel my kids NOT to take out ANY student loans and help out wherever and however I can. The student-loan scam is a huge social debacle – a “failed experiment” and SO not worth it! WHO CARES if it takes a little longer than four years to get a degree?
I am acquainted with a middle-aged person who all of a sudden decided to seek a student loan for a “graduate degree.” We’re talkin’ 50-something here. What the he!! for at this late date? WHO WILL HIRE THEM UPON GRADUATION?? IMO, if they “successfully” earn their masters degree or doctorate, they’re just rendering themselves MORE unmarketable in this economy :=|. Then, they’ll be carrying their “student loans” into their retirement years – lol!
I’m not a pessimist, just a REALIST! The time where they needed to find out what they wanted to be when they grew up has PASSED . . . 25+ years ago . . . lol.
August 14, 2010 at 6:48 PM #591530bearishgurlParticipant[quote=walterwhite]. . . And all this emphasis on formal education, paid education, isn’t it all part of what is the next enormous bubble to burst — the student loan debt bubble? I’m about paid off on my massive debt — but i’ll be damned if i let me kids get sucked into massive debt. Isn’t that what educators wan- to prepare you for a “good college” with a hefty amount of indebtedness? Isn’t that what the system churns out?[/quote]
Completely agree, scaredy. I continually counsel my kids NOT to take out ANY student loans and help out wherever and however I can. The student-loan scam is a huge social debacle – a “failed experiment” and SO not worth it! WHO CARES if it takes a little longer than four years to get a degree?
I am acquainted with a middle-aged person who all of a sudden decided to seek a student loan for a “graduate degree.” We’re talkin’ 50-something here. What the he!! for at this late date? WHO WILL HIRE THEM UPON GRADUATION?? IMO, if they “successfully” earn their masters degree or doctorate, they’re just rendering themselves MORE unmarketable in this economy :=|. Then, they’ll be carrying their “student loans” into their retirement years – lol!
I’m not a pessimist, just a REALIST! The time where they needed to find out what they wanted to be when they grew up has PASSED . . . 25+ years ago . . . lol.
August 14, 2010 at 6:48 PM #591639bearishgurlParticipant[quote=walterwhite]. . . And all this emphasis on formal education, paid education, isn’t it all part of what is the next enormous bubble to burst — the student loan debt bubble? I’m about paid off on my massive debt — but i’ll be damned if i let me kids get sucked into massive debt. Isn’t that what educators wan- to prepare you for a “good college” with a hefty amount of indebtedness? Isn’t that what the system churns out?[/quote]
Completely agree, scaredy. I continually counsel my kids NOT to take out ANY student loans and help out wherever and however I can. The student-loan scam is a huge social debacle – a “failed experiment” and SO not worth it! WHO CARES if it takes a little longer than four years to get a degree?
I am acquainted with a middle-aged person who all of a sudden decided to seek a student loan for a “graduate degree.” We’re talkin’ 50-something here. What the he!! for at this late date? WHO WILL HIRE THEM UPON GRADUATION?? IMO, if they “successfully” earn their masters degree or doctorate, they’re just rendering themselves MORE unmarketable in this economy :=|. Then, they’ll be carrying their “student loans” into their retirement years – lol!
I’m not a pessimist, just a REALIST! The time where they needed to find out what they wanted to be when they grew up has PASSED . . . 25+ years ago . . . lol.
August 14, 2010 at 6:48 PM #591951bearishgurlParticipant[quote=walterwhite]. . . And all this emphasis on formal education, paid education, isn’t it all part of what is the next enormous bubble to burst — the student loan debt bubble? I’m about paid off on my massive debt — but i’ll be damned if i let me kids get sucked into massive debt. Isn’t that what educators wan- to prepare you for a “good college” with a hefty amount of indebtedness? Isn’t that what the system churns out?[/quote]
Completely agree, scaredy. I continually counsel my kids NOT to take out ANY student loans and help out wherever and however I can. The student-loan scam is a huge social debacle – a “failed experiment” and SO not worth it! WHO CARES if it takes a little longer than four years to get a degree?
I am acquainted with a middle-aged person who all of a sudden decided to seek a student loan for a “graduate degree.” We’re talkin’ 50-something here. What the he!! for at this late date? WHO WILL HIRE THEM UPON GRADUATION?? IMO, if they “successfully” earn their masters degree or doctorate, they’re just rendering themselves MORE unmarketable in this economy :=|. Then, they’ll be carrying their “student loans” into their retirement years – lol!
I’m not a pessimist, just a REALIST! The time where they needed to find out what they wanted to be when they grew up has PASSED . . . 25+ years ago . . . lol.
August 14, 2010 at 7:03 PM #590909bearishgurlParticipant[quote=walterwhite]ask this question; where do you think your kids would develop more at age 17 in terms of self-reliance, education and general boredom levels. senior year with spanish IV at great oaks, or a year abroad at some mexican high school with low test scrores?[/quote]
scaredy, having personally spent at least 16 semester units in a CC language lab talking to a cassette recorder and STILL not able to utter most complete sentences correctly, I would say that the Mexican “immersion” program is the way to go. I believe that if thrown into an environment where Spanish skills are needed for day-to-day living, one can pick it up very quickly. School “test scores” have nothing to do with this.
August 14, 2010 at 7:03 PM #591003bearishgurlParticipant[quote=walterwhite]ask this question; where do you think your kids would develop more at age 17 in terms of self-reliance, education and general boredom levels. senior year with spanish IV at great oaks, or a year abroad at some mexican high school with low test scrores?[/quote]
scaredy, having personally spent at least 16 semester units in a CC language lab talking to a cassette recorder and STILL not able to utter most complete sentences correctly, I would say that the Mexican “immersion” program is the way to go. I believe that if thrown into an environment where Spanish skills are needed for day-to-day living, one can pick it up very quickly. School “test scores” have nothing to do with this.
August 14, 2010 at 7:03 PM #591540bearishgurlParticipant[quote=walterwhite]ask this question; where do you think your kids would develop more at age 17 in terms of self-reliance, education and general boredom levels. senior year with spanish IV at great oaks, or a year abroad at some mexican high school with low test scrores?[/quote]
scaredy, having personally spent at least 16 semester units in a CC language lab talking to a cassette recorder and STILL not able to utter most complete sentences correctly, I would say that the Mexican “immersion” program is the way to go. I believe that if thrown into an environment where Spanish skills are needed for day-to-day living, one can pick it up very quickly. School “test scores” have nothing to do with this.
August 14, 2010 at 7:03 PM #591649bearishgurlParticipant[quote=walterwhite]ask this question; where do you think your kids would develop more at age 17 in terms of self-reliance, education and general boredom levels. senior year with spanish IV at great oaks, or a year abroad at some mexican high school with low test scrores?[/quote]
scaredy, having personally spent at least 16 semester units in a CC language lab talking to a cassette recorder and STILL not able to utter most complete sentences correctly, I would say that the Mexican “immersion” program is the way to go. I believe that if thrown into an environment where Spanish skills are needed for day-to-day living, one can pick it up very quickly. School “test scores” have nothing to do with this.
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