Schwarzenegger backs state services to immigrants

[barnaby33]

Blaming immigrants is easy and fun, lets do it some more! Oh wait its a depression, thats guaranteed. I for one would love to see an end to illegal immigration, but it won’t solve our near or long term problems, nor even push them off on our neighbors.

The sad reality is that no force on earth could stop the tidal wave of humans trekking north stemming from the collapse of Mexico/Central American economies should the millions of people here illegally be forced out.

Lets have a real discussion without demagoguery, about immigration. Its costs and its benefits are horribly unevenly distributed, except at the grocery checkout line!

Josh

[Jim Jones]

Barnaby, I find your comments short sighted as well as illogical.

(1) At no point during this post was any blame assigned to illegal immigrants.

(2) “No force on earth could stop the tidal wave of humans trekking north…” That is a pretty absolute statement.

(4) “Its costs and its benefits are horribly unevenly distributed, except at the grocery checkout line!” What on earth does this mean?

(5) Can you look above your post and find a specific statement which was used demagoguery?

Since you are so passionate about this topic can you think of another way for the state of recoup the 4 to 5 billion dollar cost of illegal immigration? If you do I would like to hear it rather then your comments which amount to nothing more then an personal attack against me for posting a statement made by the governor on this very topic. His words not mine.

[Jim Jones]

Barnaby, I find your comments short sighted as well as illogical.

(1) At no point during this post was any blame assigned to illegal immigrants.

(2) “No force on earth could stop the tidal wave of humans trekking north…” That is a pretty absolute statement.

(4) “Its costs and its benefits are horribly unevenly distributed, except at the grocery checkout line!” What on earth does this mean?

(5) Can you look above your post and find a specific statement which was used demagoguery?

Since you are so passionate about this topic can you think of another way for the state of recoup the 4 to 5 billion dollar cost of illegal immigration? If you do I would like to hear it rather then your comments which amount to nothing more then an personal attack against me for posting a statement made by the governor on this very topic. His words not mine.

[Jim Jones]

Barnaby, I find your comments short sighted as well as illogical.

(1) At no point during this post was any blame assigned to illegal immigrants.

(2) “No force on earth could stop the tidal wave of humans trekking north…” That is a pretty absolute statement.

(4) “Its costs and its benefits are horribly unevenly distributed, except at the grocery checkout line!” What on earth does this mean?

(5) Can you look above your post and find a specific statement which was used demagoguery?

Since you are so passionate about this topic can you think of another way for the state of recoup the 4 to 5 billion dollar cost of illegal immigration? If you do I would like to hear it rather then your comments which amount to nothing more then an personal attack against me for posting a statement made by the governor on this very topic. His words not mine.

[Jim Jones]

Barnaby, I find your comments short sighted as well as illogical.

(1) At no point during this post was any blame assigned to illegal immigrants.

(2) “No force on earth could stop the tidal wave of humans trekking north…” That is a pretty absolute statement.

(4) “Its costs and its benefits are horribly unevenly distributed, except at the grocery checkout line!” What on earth does this mean?

(5) Can you look above your post and find a specific statement which was used demagoguery?

Since you are so passionate about this topic can you think of another way for the state of recoup the 4 to 5 billion dollar cost of illegal immigration? If you do I would like to hear it rather then your comments which amount to nothing more then an personal attack against me for posting a statement made by the governor on this very topic. His words not mine.

[Jim Jones]

Barnaby, I find your comments short sighted as well as illogical.

(1) At no point during this post was any blame assigned to illegal immigrants.

(2) “No force on earth could stop the tidal wave of humans trekking north…” That is a pretty absolute statement.

(4) “Its costs and its benefits are horribly unevenly distributed, except at the grocery checkout line!” What on earth does this mean?

(5) Can you look above your post and find a specific statement which was used demagoguery?

Since you are so passionate about this topic can you think of another way for the state of recoup the 4 to 5 billion dollar cost of illegal immigration? If you do I would like to hear it rather then your comments which amount to nothing more then an personal attack against me for posting a statement made by the governor on this very topic. His words not mine.

[NotCranky]

It sounds like Arnold is saying that as a percentage of the budget, services to illegal immigrants is not causing the impact on the deficit worthy of the scapegoating that immigrants gets given their contribution to our infrastructure and agriculture.

It just sounds like he is making reasonable statements about illegal immigrants. Why should they face the brunt of the suffering to correct the deficit when they have contributed so much by doing some much of the shitwork, for subsistence wages during the good times?

[NotCranky]

It sounds like Arnold is saying that as a percentage of the budget, services to illegal immigrants is not causing the impact on the deficit worthy of the scapegoating that immigrants gets given their contribution to our infrastructure and agriculture.

It just sounds like he is making reasonable statements about illegal immigrants. Why should they face the brunt of the suffering to correct the deficit when they have contributed so much by doing some much of the shitwork, for subsistence wages during the good times?

[NotCranky]

It sounds like Arnold is saying that as a percentage of the budget, services to illegal immigrants is not causing the impact on the deficit worthy of the scapegoating that immigrants gets given their contribution to our infrastructure and agriculture.

It just sounds like he is making reasonable statements about illegal immigrants. Why should they face the brunt of the suffering to correct the deficit when they have contributed so much by doing some much of the shitwork, for subsistence wages during the good times?

[NotCranky]

It sounds like Arnold is saying that as a percentage of the budget, services to illegal immigrants is not causing the impact on the deficit worthy of the scapegoating that immigrants gets given their contribution to our infrastructure and agriculture.

It just sounds like he is making reasonable statements about illegal immigrants. Why should they face the brunt of the suffering to correct the deficit when they have contributed so much by doing some much of the shitwork, for subsistence wages during the good times?

[NotCranky]

It sounds like Arnold is saying that as a percentage of the budget, services to illegal immigrants is not causing the impact on the deficit worthy of the scapegoating that immigrants gets given their contribution to our infrastructure and agriculture.

It just sounds like he is making reasonable statements about illegal immigrants. Why should they face the brunt of the suffering to correct the deficit when they have contributed so much by doing some much of the shitwork, for subsistence wages during the good times?

[Ricechex]

Bashing illegals is like bashing welfare recipients. Or like bashing the Fire Chief that has a good pension and other government workers. Not saying it is right or wrong, BUT, this is small potatoes and takes a very little slice of the pie. The biggest chunk of money is spent on Defense. Yeah, and many of us make our bread and butter in this City because of Defense spending, so perhaps we do not wish to look at this matter. OH, and I am not talking about spending on our sailors, those guys make a pittance unfortunately.

[Ricechex]

Bashing illegals is like bashing welfare recipients. Or like bashing the Fire Chief that has a good pension and other government workers. Not saying it is right or wrong, BUT, this is small potatoes and takes a very little slice of the pie. The biggest chunk of money is spent on Defense. Yeah, and many of us make our bread and butter in this City because of Defense spending, so perhaps we do not wish to look at this matter. OH, and I am not talking about spending on our sailors, those guys make a pittance unfortunately.

[Ricechex]

Bashing illegals is like bashing welfare recipients. Or like bashing the Fire Chief that has a good pension and other government workers. Not saying it is right or wrong, BUT, this is small potatoes and takes a very little slice of the pie. The biggest chunk of money is spent on Defense. Yeah, and many of us make our bread and butter in this City because of Defense spending, so perhaps we do not wish to look at this matter. OH, and I am not talking about spending on our sailors, those guys make a pittance unfortunately.

[Ricechex]

Bashing illegals is like bashing welfare recipients. Or like bashing the Fire Chief that has a good pension and other government workers. Not saying it is right or wrong, BUT, this is small potatoes and takes a very little slice of the pie. The biggest chunk of money is spent on Defense. Yeah, and many of us make our bread and butter in this City because of Defense spending, so perhaps we do not wish to look at this matter. OH, and I am not talking about spending on our sailors, those guys make a pittance unfortunately.

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