Scaredy shopping for real estate

[scaredyclassic]

In idyllwild ca.

Actually pondering relocating up there.

Retirement-tourist-vacation type mountain town.

Old cabins.

Anyone have any advice on buying mountain cabins?

[burghMan]

I know that the road closures have hit local business up there pretty hard.

Has it affected real estate prices?

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=burghMan]I know that the road closures have hit local business up there pretty hard.

Has it affected real estate prices?[/quote]

Apparently not according to some guys I work with up there.

300$ sq ft for some places, small lots

[FlyerInHi]

isn’t that redneck country?
i did go camping up there because friends wanted to go. But i would not wish or plan to go up there on my own.

Go to a coastal community, or Sante Fe, NM.

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=FlyerInHi]isn’t that redneck country?
i did go camping up there because friends wanted to go. But i would not wish or plan to go up there on my own.

Go to a coastal community, or Sante Fe, NM.[/quote]

No. Hippie arts camp hiking town

[temeculaguy]

While I’ve enjoyed a few pass through visits there I do not recommend it for real estate. Aecitia used to post here and she was shopping a vacation home there about 8 years ago, ultimately buying in Arrowhead. The problem with Idyllwild is that it lacks a body of water or snow skiing and the town is tiny and can be seen in an hour or two. For San Diegans it’s like Julian without the Pie or Mt. Laguna. If it floats your boat, great! But as an investment it is limited. With 3,800 people (which includes neighboring pine cove) it is about the size of a big high school and no consistent tourism draw, no high school at all and part of the Hemet school district, not a big real estate plus. It’s 89% white, so diversity is not it’s strong suit. The roads went to hell this last winter and still aren’t fixed so retirement is the only real option. The lack of shopping and dining are a big negative.

It’s at best a fun weekend in So Cal that feels like you are in the smokey mountains, far from any people. In 20 years it will likely be the same. From an R/E perspective, nobody with a job or kids can buy your house and currently second homes have deductabilty issues so I rate it as a “Sell.”

I just got back from an East coast vacation, and between a few days in Boston and a few in NYC we spent a few wonderful days in Mystic, Connecticut as well as Madison County, CT. Also some places in Rhode Island, admittedly I had my redfin app going at every place because it was the 1st week of October and the leaves were turning and the weather was ideal. But it’s like being married to a great woman and seeing a hot chick walk by who gives you a look, you don’t leave your wife because that hot chick is crazy and looking good is just a fraction of what makes a great relationship. You just nod back and keep going because everything you need, you already have. You live in wine country scaredy, Idyllwild is just a one night stand that you will regret.

[scaredyclassic]

We go once a month, maybe more to hike and volunteer as fire lookouts. We sleep up on tahquitz peak.

The temecula-idyllwild road didnt wash out, and lots of young fit people from SD hike up to the fire tower. In fact, more people from SD Tthan the inland empire. Hell, I’d say I’ve registered more people visiting from Seattle than the IE.

Wife likes it there. Just talking about a cabin made her happy.

I wouldve expected the Cranston fire last year and the road washouts to crater real estate but it’s still high.

Tg, some very good points.

Main reason I’m truly hesitant aside from high pricing is the possibility the whole town is engulfed in flames and we roast to death. Yes, I am a scaredyat but this is a possibility. I am ok with dying but definitely opposed to death by fire.

Still for a good deal I’d take that risk.

Say, 60 % off all cash?

[Hobie]

Wouldn’t the tourists in the summer be a pain? Not on the trail, but in town clogging roads near your place.

But since you are up there that much, go for it!

[scaredyclassic]

Maybe we could make $ off tourism somehow?

There have been about 2,000 people who hiked south ridge or devils slide up to tahquitz peak this year, most are patagonia clad gorgeous young people from SD. But I doubt they’re cabin shopping.

Being outdoorsy is trendy.

Tahquitz Peak via South Ridge Trail

View to sd. Now all the trees r gone, from the cranston fire. If there were low fire risk, I think I could be relaxed there. I’ve met a bunch of retired people living up there who tramp around the mountains all day and like it.

[burghMan]

Idyllwild is world famous for rock climbing and the parking lot at Humber Park fills up every weekend with climbers. There might be some market for a hostel of sorts catering to climbers. But be aware that climbers in general are cheapskates when it comes to lodging.

Idylwild is nice for a weekend getaway if you live in So Cal, but for full time retirement I’d say there are many other options in California and elsewhere that are nicer and cheaper.

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=burghMan]Idyllwild is world famous for rock climbing and the parking lot at Humber Park fills up every weekend with climbers. There might be some market for a hostel of sorts catering to climbers. But be aware that climbers in general are cheapskates when it comes to lodging.

Idylwild is nice for a weekend getaway if you live in So Cal, but for full time retirement I’d say there are many other options in California and elsewhere that are nicer and cheaper.[/quote]

I think I’d like having 5 dirty climbers crash on my floor for $7 a night each but not sure if my wife would go for it.

[burghMan]

There’s quite a few Idyllwild residents on the MountainProject climbing forums. You could probably get some good info there:

https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/104554745/southern-california

Tell them you are looking for “beta” on real estate and you’ll sound like you belong 😉

[scaredyclassic]

Funny.

I guess the more responsible thing to do would be to pay down our mortgage, but my wife finds that rather dull…

[FlyerInHi]

Wow. I have to reassess idylwild.

I have friends from LA who took early retirement to temecula. They love to drive to idylwild. I found that odd because as I get older, I drive far only reluctantly. I don’t find driving leisurely at all.

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=FlyerInHi]Wow. I have to reassess idylwild.

I have friends from LA who took early retirement to temecula. They love to drive to idylwild. I found that odd because as I get older, I drive far only reluctantly. I don’t find driving leisurely at all.[/quote]

I was driving down the hill slightly over the speed limit and some guy behind me was honking and generally going berserk. I pulled over at first clearing and he gave me the finger.

I do hope he is injured in a solo fiery wreck.

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