Right-Wing Media are Destroying Our Country

[Anonymous]

One day last week there were several key developments in the health care legislation that would impact the health and finances of tens of millions of Americans.

On that same day the top headline on FoxNews.com was about the Obama family’s “lavish vacations.”

But remember that “the media” that is “just as bad” as Trump is not the multibillion dollar NewsCorp – It’s the people that chose to poke fun at the absurd irony in Trump’s ridiculously childish (and even a bit creepy) fake magazine cover.

Yep, both sides are the same.

[zk]

Nestled in this story

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/republicans-are-risking-becoming-the-party-of-putin/2017/06/28/78e8e1ee-5c24-11e7-9fc6-c7ef4bc58d13_story.html?tid=pm_opinions_pop&utm_term=.5e20185f487f

about republicans being in danger of becoming the party of putin is this little nugget:

Behind their neglect are changing Republican voter opinions, which are becoming alarmingly more pro-Russian. According to a Morning Consult-Politico poll conducted in May, 49 percent of Republican voters consider Russia to be either an ally or friendly. Only 12 percent consider it an enemy. In 2015, only 12 percent of Republicans held a favorable view of Russian President Vladimir Putin, according to Gallup. As of February, that figure had jumped to 32 percent.

Honestly, does anybody think those numbers would be like that if it weren’t for fox propaganda? Does anyone think that if Hillary played the same cards that con man don has played regarding Russia that fox propaganda would’ve reported it the same? And that those numbers would look like that?

Right wingers are being taken for a ride, and they have no idea.

[ocrenter]

Interesting how with a couple of tweets no one is talking about the failed hugely unpopular senate health care bill any more.

The guy’s timing is impeccable.

[SK in CV]

[quote=ocrenter]Interesting how with a couple of tweets no one is talking about the failed hugely unpopular senate health care bill any more.

The guy’s timing is impeccable.[/quote]

Except Trump. He tweeted about it this morning. McConnell had already sent the Senate home for recess Thursday morning.

[FlyerInHi]

Zk, watch Oliver Stone’s Putin interviews. The hinterland American is very much the same as the hinterland Russian. Uneducated, nationalistic, substance addicted.

[ocrenter]

[quote=SK in CV][quote=ocrenter]Interesting how with a couple of tweets no one is talking about the failed hugely unpopular senate health care bill any more.

The guy’s timing is impeccable.[/quote]

Except Trump. He tweeted about it this morning. McConnell had already sent the Senate home for recess Thursday morning.[/quote]

True. Except he just called for complete repel first, another reversal of prior position, a reversal that would leave 32 million uninsured.

How many Americans heard that story today in the middle of his little cyber bullying stunt?

[SK in CV]

[quote=ocrenter]
True. Except he just called for complete repel first, another reversal of prior position, a reversal that would leave 32 million uninsured.

How many Americans heard that story today in the middle of his little cyber bullying stunt?[/quote]

Cable news covered it a bit. I was watching somebody this afternoon, and they had a GOP consultant on, who complained a bit that the media covered the wrong things. Then she was asked what the WH actually wanted in a health care bill. Her response? ¯_(ツ)_/¯ The WH has no policies. But whatever it is, it’s good. The best.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=no_such_reality]

It’d just be a different more PC tyranny.[/quote]

I wonder what PC tyranny is.

Isn’t PC another word for polite, educated, sophisticated, civilized?

I don’t think that in a civilized society we can let all the basest human instincts ooze out all over the place. I remember going to church when little, and it’s pretty PC there. You have to dress your best and act your best.

[Anonymous]

Top headline on FoxNews.com at the time of this posting:

‘WHAT ARE THEY TRYING TO HIDE?’ Trump slams states refusing to comply with voter information

And of course there’s a Trump tweet:

Numerous states are refusing to give information to the very distinguished VOTER FRAUD PANEL. What are they trying to hide?

From the article:

White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders on Friday blasted the decision by some governors and secretaries of state not to comply.

“I think that that’s mostly about a political stunt,” she told reporters at a White House briefing.

Yes, she actually used the term “political stunt.”

But there is some wisdom offered from Mississippi:

They can go jump in the Gulf of Mexico, and Mississippi is a great state to launch from. … Mississippi residents should celebrate Independence Day and our state’s right to protect the privacy of our citizens by conducting our own electoral processes.”

How long before Trump tweets that he’s “proven” voter fraud?

[FlyerInHi]

Voter fraud is part of the narrative. The Trump base likes to blame others for their loss of status. They think that the establishment is conspiring with minorities and immigrants to take America away from them.

Rather than getting off their asses pulling themselves up by the bootstraps, they like blame others.

[zk]

[quote=no_such_reality]
I don’t know what they see. I get the irony, but really, this is just non-story. That’s the problem. Bang, bang, bang, beat the trite drum.

I get it, he’s vain, a bully, fake newsies and for ___ sake can someone on his staff please slap the twitter feed out of his hand.

The media is harping on it, all the left leaning facebook groups and jumping and howling, but it’s just trite crap.

Yes, IMO he’s shaping up to be a miserable President and even worse representation of humanity, but frankly the way his opponents behave is leaving little assurance that they’ll be any better other than they won’t be a 70+ year old apparent bigot. It’d just be a different more PC tyranny.[/quote]

First of all, to say that it’s a non-story is to be willing to ignore further evidence that our president has flawed character, and to be willing to overlook his astounding hypocrisy. That kind of willful ignorance belongs in North Korea. Is it the scandal of the century? No. Is it a story? Of course it is.

But there’s also this: Left-leaning facebook groups are jumping and howling. Not the NYT or WAPO. They reported it in a straightforward manner, and WAPO connected it to President Dunning-Kruger’s long-established pattern of exaggerating his own merits. If Clinton were president and she pulled this stunt, it would be fox propaganda that would be jumping and howling. It would be the scandal of the century. And they sure as hell wouldn’t have ended their article with this, as they did with their article on president dipshit:

Ironically, though, Donald Trump has appeared on 14 bona fide Time magazine covers since 1989.

People think that fox propaganda is news. That’s the problem. That’s how we ended up with president snowflake, crying every time somebody tells the truth about him. And that’s how we’re going to end up poorer, sicker, weaker, and with less standing in the world. People believing the bullshit they hear on fox propaganda and voting based on what they’ve been manipulated and disinformed to believe.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=zk]
And that’s how we’re going to end up poorer, sicker, weaker, and with less standing in the world. People believing the bullshit they hear on fox propaganda and voting based on what they’ve been manipulated and disinformed to believe.[/quote]

That’s pretty much why I have given up being American. I’m now a world citizen and care not so much about Americans but more about people worldwide who want to improve themselves.

ZK, the Tima magazine cover is hyperbolic artistic license. I think I’m describing it in a liberal elitist manner. I don’t watch Fox…. wonder how did they defended it in a down to earth manner for real Americans.

[zk]

It’s even worse than I thought. Conservative ownership influencing local news. Here’s Jon Oliver’s piece on it:

So it looks like many local news outlets, and not just the ones in president pinocchio country, are getting biased news.

[FlyerInHi]

ZK, i think we are a country of very smart people at the top, but mostly populated by dumb people. That wasn’t a problem in decades past because the world population was uneducated. It’s a problem now because China has more middle class than we have people. Then India, then Latin America, then Africa.

We keep our people dumb at our own peril. Absent government intervention, pure economics and pure meritocracy require that smart people live better than dumber ones. Simple as that.

[zk]

[quote=FlyerInHi]ZK, i think we are a country of very smart people at the top, but mostly populated by dumb people. That wasn’t a problem in decades past because the world population was uneducated. It’s a problem now because China has more middle class than we have people. Then India, then Latin America, then Africa.

We keep our people dumb at our own peril. Absent government intervention, pure economics and pure meritocracy require that smart people live better than dumber ones. Simple as that.[/quote]

When you say “smart” and “dumb,” I’m deducing that you mean “educated” and “uneducated.”

If I’m wrong about that, you can disregard the rest of this post.

So how do you propose to educate the uneducated? If your past statements are any indication, you’d like to just leave them behind. That doesn’t work, in my opinion, for a couple reasons. Number one, we end up paying tons of money to support them, and our economy is worse off. Number two, they vote.

And which uneducated do you mean? While there are lot of uneducated rubes supporting Pinocchio L’orange and the craven republican congressmen who won’t stand up to him, there are plenty of college-educated people who have been manipulated into believing what fox propaganda is selling. So just a college education doesn’t necessarily work.

How do you get a college-educated, intelligent person who swallows fox propaganda whole to come around to seeing that it’s propaganda? How do you get an uneducated but intelligent person to come around? How do you get an unintelligent person to come around?

I don’t know the answers to these questions. I’m not sure there are viable answers to these questions. I’m not sure the lack of answers to those questions won’t lead to the end of the American position of leadership in the world, and to the end of American prosperity.

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