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August 4, 2017 at 5:44 PM #807495August 4, 2017 at 5:45 PM #807494millennialParticipant
[quote=harvey]
Do you actually believe that there are different standards for ignorant speech based on the race of the speaker?[/quote]
Of course I do. That’s part of the Asian-American experience. Do you know why Dave Chapelle stopped his show after getting a lucrative contract with Comedy Central? It’s cause he noticed that one time a white guy laughed a little too hard at his jokes. Communication is derived from context, intent and speaker. For instance, would it be different if your boss called you a dumb ass instead? Of course it would! You need to understand that for all intents and purposes, historically minorities do not hold power in this country; whites do. From this perspective if another one of your coworkers calls you a dumb ass while drinking a few beers, it comes off a lot differently.
August 4, 2017 at 5:49 PM #807496millennialParticipant[quote=harvey]Well that was gibberish.[/quote]
Exactly, I don’t think you are capable of understanding. Nothing against you, it’s just something you need to experience.August 4, 2017 at 5:50 PM #807491millennialParticipant[quote=flu]Whatever. If you progressives want to (incorrectly) label me as being narrow minded or whatever simply because I am against institutional discrimination (affirmative action), so be it. I guess given that we have the biggest bigot in office, I can’t be worse than our presidential role model for the next 4 years. Maybe even 8, if you progressives keep it up… Then everyone loses!!!! Yee haw!!!!![/quote]
Dude now who’s calling me overly sensitive. I totally agree with the removal of affirmative action. Affirmative action was created a while ago because the student body of public universities did not represent the makeup of the people that funded them, or the people they were supposed to serve (surrounding areas were composed primarily of a discriminated class). They created affirmative action (which I believe was necessary) to help those that were underprivileged. Obviously this no longer holds true and that is why it is not needed. This being said, all I’m saying is that admittance to top highly selective schools should continue to look at things outside of just test scores, which should also take into account an applicants socioeconomic well-being. Public universities, unlike private universities need to continue to serve a function that is beneficial to the public.
Although the definition of this may not be agreeable to both you, your son, and his friends; or for Trump; or for the richest who create admittance standards.
Personally I feel that the nation as a whole would be much better if people from all socioeconomic classes, and all backgrounds are represented in power. In order for this to happen, we need to make sure that public universities continue to serve this purpose.
August 4, 2017 at 5:56 PM #807497AnonymousGuestYes, it’s about experience.
August 4, 2017 at 6:00 PM #807498millennialParticipant[quote=harvey]Yes, it’s about experience.[/quote]
Uh oh here comes the age pass…i’m talking about the asian-american experience. Not gray hair experience.Trust me it exists if you don’t believe me, just google it.
Here is the definition from some e-mails on CNN.com.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/05/10/asian.heritage.ireports/index.html?_s=PM:US
August 4, 2017 at 6:02 PM #807499AnonymousGuestThat is so stupid that you just killed the comedy in this thread.
Tell us more about the mean streets of suburban Detroit.
Where did you roll, Rochester Hills?
August 4, 2017 at 6:23 PM #807500millennialParticipant[quote=harvey]That is so stupid that you just killed the comedy in this thread.
Tell us more about the mean streets of suburban Detroit.
Where did you roll, Rochester Hills?[/quote]
You’re correct. Spending time trying to enlighten someone as dim-witted as you is a complete and utter waste of my time.
August 4, 2017 at 7:13 PM #807501CoronitaParticipantMillennial, you incorrectly assumed I was getting on a high horse, by getting on a high horse yourself. And then you went off on the deep end.
Brian has a habit of posting extreme left leaning gibberish about how everyone else “should” solve social problems. I was merely asking when he was doing towards contributing to that. I don’t give a rats ass how much I am or am not helping. because it was never my soapbox to suggest we “should go out of our way for the greater social good” to do anything like this…nor was I suggesting anything I do makes a difference. My only point is if people (like brian really feel this is problem that needs to be solved), there’s little things he could do that would be constructive than taking opportunity away from other people, which is basically what a failed biased system like affirmative action does. If you read more into that, that’s your choice and you’re entitled to your opinion. I don’t give a hoot.
August 4, 2017 at 8:10 PM #807502AnonymousGuest[quote=millennial]Trust me it exists if you don’t believe me, just google it.[/quote]
We could have some fun with that one, but I’m heading out for dinner.
August 4, 2017 at 8:23 PM #807503FlyerInHiGuestFlu, I think we should have good policies that lift up people and improve aggregate wealth.
Legacy and preferential admissions are a lot more unfair and higher in numbers.
Admitting C level Trump to Upenn is a lot worse than admitting B affirmative action Tanisha. You’re barking up the wrong tree if you want pure academic merit.August 5, 2017 at 2:19 PM #807510FlyerInHiGuestSo another Fox News star is a pervert. Oh well, so much for family values.
August 5, 2017 at 4:08 PM #807512CoronitaParticipant“Vijay Jojo Chokal-Ingam, older brother of actress Mindy Kaling, committed racial fraud to get into medical school. Yet he did not admit his crimes until after the statute of limitations had long expired. Now Chokal-Ingam is going full frontal with his book Almost Black: The True Story of How I Got into Medical School by Pretending to Be Black.
17 years ago, Chokal-Ingam was a slacker and party animal who barely scraped by in college with a pitifully low 3.1 GPA. Yet like any Indian kid, becoming a doctor was his do-or-die dream. In between fun and games, Chokal-Ingam somehow reached the conclusion that affirmative action was his golden ticket to getting into medical school.
In Almost Black, Chokal-Ingam tells the story of how he scammed his way into medical school by exploiting affirmative action. He shaved his head, trimmed his long Indian eyelashes, embraced his black-sounding middle name Jojo, joined the Organization of Black Students, and checked the box marked “BLACK” on his med school applications. To his immense gratification, Chokal-Ingam hoodwinked 11 American medical schools into interviewing him and miraculously got waitlisted at the country’s third and fourth best medical schools.
While Chokal-Ingam obviously benefited from pretending to be black, he also experienced the trials and tribulations of being an African American. Fellow students ran away from him, cops harassed him, and store clerks accused him of shoplifting. The 22-year-old frat boy never expected that his college prank would turn into a social experiment that unveils harsh realities about racism in this country.
“I lied about my race to get into medical school,” said Vijay Jojo Chokal-Ingam. “But if you deny that affirmative action is racism, then you are a bigger liar than I will ever be.”
August 5, 2017 at 6:12 PM #807516sdduuuudeParticipant[quote=FlyerInHi]Flu, I think we should have good policies that lift up people and improve aggregate wealth.[/quote]
Who is “we” ?
Ivy league colleges are not public organizations. They should be able to admit or deny whomever they want for any reason without the gubmint telling them what to do.
The mindset of both liberals and conservatives is that they feel they have the right to use government to force everyone to behave the way they want them to behave. It is a basic assumption of both sides that I simply can’t understand.
The entire country seems to have lost their minds in this regard – note FlyerInHi’s comment that he thinks “we should have good policies that lift up people and improve aggregate wealth” as if “we” have the right to decide how Harvard chooses their students.
Arguing over whether or not affirmative action is effective is useless when the whole idea of telling a private institution how to manage their affairs is unethical.
Why not let each school do what they want and let the chips fall where they may ?
August 5, 2017 at 6:26 PM #807517sdduuuudeParticipant[quote=flu]
And lastly..Brian, people like you are exactly why Donald Trump won. A lot of people hate people like you that tries to create and “solve problems” by with easy “solutions”, yet ineffective solutions that screw someone else over on the process and doesn’t really solve the real issue, besides pandering to the least informed minorities that buy into your “solutions” that don’t work. It’s no different that.trimp pandering to the illinformed middle America.And because of that, all of us have to put up with Trump for the next 4 years definitely and possibly 8 if you keep up shoveling the bullshit from the waco extreme far left.[/quote]
Wow. Well said. It isn’t the right-wing media that is ruining the country, it is because the left is so far out-of control that Trump and the Fox maniacs emerged.
The Republicans jumped the shark when Bush ended free markets to save free markets.
The Democrats jumped the shark when they lost to Trump.
Seems the time is right for a third party to me.
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