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May 6, 2010 at 5:32 PM #548076May 6, 2010 at 5:53 PM #547138ZeitgeistParticipant
Good to know.
May 6, 2010 at 5:53 PM #547249ZeitgeistParticipantGood to know.
May 6, 2010 at 5:53 PM #547731ZeitgeistParticipantGood to know.
May 6, 2010 at 5:53 PM #547830ZeitgeistParticipantGood to know.
May 6, 2010 at 5:53 PM #548101ZeitgeistParticipantGood to know.
May 6, 2010 at 11:35 PM #547293ucodegenParticipantBeyond lame, try incompetent!
Understatement.
The government doesn’t need to look for those documents. They already have them!!
Naive. First, you are assuming that the docs may be valid. You also forgot.. it was a Pakistani passport, not a US passport. The passport will contain stamps from other countries visited. This info is not necessarily recorded on entry into the US. To get the academic records, the authorities have to know which universities attended and then has to get a warrant or subpoena for the records.
The greeting cards would show who he might be associated with/lines of communication. Last time I checked, our mail is not monitored.
Don’t forget, this guy was on the no-fly-list.. how many times did he take a flight while on that list? When they caught him, they pulled him off of a flight that had already pushed off from the terminal.
May 6, 2010 at 11:35 PM #547404ucodegenParticipantBeyond lame, try incompetent!
Understatement.
The government doesn’t need to look for those documents. They already have them!!
Naive. First, you are assuming that the docs may be valid. You also forgot.. it was a Pakistani passport, not a US passport. The passport will contain stamps from other countries visited. This info is not necessarily recorded on entry into the US. To get the academic records, the authorities have to know which universities attended and then has to get a warrant or subpoena for the records.
The greeting cards would show who he might be associated with/lines of communication. Last time I checked, our mail is not monitored.
Don’t forget, this guy was on the no-fly-list.. how many times did he take a flight while on that list? When they caught him, they pulled him off of a flight that had already pushed off from the terminal.
May 6, 2010 at 11:35 PM #547887ucodegenParticipantBeyond lame, try incompetent!
Understatement.
The government doesn’t need to look for those documents. They already have them!!
Naive. First, you are assuming that the docs may be valid. You also forgot.. it was a Pakistani passport, not a US passport. The passport will contain stamps from other countries visited. This info is not necessarily recorded on entry into the US. To get the academic records, the authorities have to know which universities attended and then has to get a warrant or subpoena for the records.
The greeting cards would show who he might be associated with/lines of communication. Last time I checked, our mail is not monitored.
Don’t forget, this guy was on the no-fly-list.. how many times did he take a flight while on that list? When they caught him, they pulled him off of a flight that had already pushed off from the terminal.
May 6, 2010 at 11:35 PM #547985ucodegenParticipantBeyond lame, try incompetent!
Understatement.
The government doesn’t need to look for those documents. They already have them!!
Naive. First, you are assuming that the docs may be valid. You also forgot.. it was a Pakistani passport, not a US passport. The passport will contain stamps from other countries visited. This info is not necessarily recorded on entry into the US. To get the academic records, the authorities have to know which universities attended and then has to get a warrant or subpoena for the records.
The greeting cards would show who he might be associated with/lines of communication. Last time I checked, our mail is not monitored.
Don’t forget, this guy was on the no-fly-list.. how many times did he take a flight while on that list? When they caught him, they pulled him off of a flight that had already pushed off from the terminal.
May 6, 2010 at 11:35 PM #548256ucodegenParticipantBeyond lame, try incompetent!
Understatement.
The government doesn’t need to look for those documents. They already have them!!
Naive. First, you are assuming that the docs may be valid. You also forgot.. it was a Pakistani passport, not a US passport. The passport will contain stamps from other countries visited. This info is not necessarily recorded on entry into the US. To get the academic records, the authorities have to know which universities attended and then has to get a warrant or subpoena for the records.
The greeting cards would show who he might be associated with/lines of communication. Last time I checked, our mail is not monitored.
Don’t forget, this guy was on the no-fly-list.. how many times did he take a flight while on that list? When they caught him, they pulled him off of a flight that had already pushed off from the terminal.
May 6, 2010 at 11:47 PM #547308ucodegenParticipantFull disclosure: I don’t believe the “fat finger” cover story for today’s stock market panic. That was obviously floated to con the public, is absurd on its face, and doesn’t account for the snap back at 1000 down or stress leading up to the event in other financial markets.
I agree with you there. One fat finger won’t take down multiple stocks simultaneously. It could be someone attacking trailing stops on stocks in order to cause a ‘cascade’. This is done by looking at all the listed trailing stops.. and if there enough, placing a buy order to cover, several places below the trailing stops and then shorting hard to drive down the stock and trigger the stops to cause further stock sales.
It could also have been ‘automated’ transactions.. but any investment firm that puts all their triggers at the same relative price, could be setting themselves up for a loss. The only way they could profit is by ‘convincing’ someone else to part with their stocks at yet a lower price.
May 6, 2010 at 11:47 PM #547419ucodegenParticipantFull disclosure: I don’t believe the “fat finger” cover story for today’s stock market panic. That was obviously floated to con the public, is absurd on its face, and doesn’t account for the snap back at 1000 down or stress leading up to the event in other financial markets.
I agree with you there. One fat finger won’t take down multiple stocks simultaneously. It could be someone attacking trailing stops on stocks in order to cause a ‘cascade’. This is done by looking at all the listed trailing stops.. and if there enough, placing a buy order to cover, several places below the trailing stops and then shorting hard to drive down the stock and trigger the stops to cause further stock sales.
It could also have been ‘automated’ transactions.. but any investment firm that puts all their triggers at the same relative price, could be setting themselves up for a loss. The only way they could profit is by ‘convincing’ someone else to part with their stocks at yet a lower price.
May 6, 2010 at 11:47 PM #547902ucodegenParticipantFull disclosure: I don’t believe the “fat finger” cover story for today’s stock market panic. That was obviously floated to con the public, is absurd on its face, and doesn’t account for the snap back at 1000 down or stress leading up to the event in other financial markets.
I agree with you there. One fat finger won’t take down multiple stocks simultaneously. It could be someone attacking trailing stops on stocks in order to cause a ‘cascade’. This is done by looking at all the listed trailing stops.. and if there enough, placing a buy order to cover, several places below the trailing stops and then shorting hard to drive down the stock and trigger the stops to cause further stock sales.
It could also have been ‘automated’ transactions.. but any investment firm that puts all their triggers at the same relative price, could be setting themselves up for a loss. The only way they could profit is by ‘convincing’ someone else to part with their stocks at yet a lower price.
May 6, 2010 at 11:47 PM #548000ucodegenParticipantFull disclosure: I don’t believe the “fat finger” cover story for today’s stock market panic. That was obviously floated to con the public, is absurd on its face, and doesn’t account for the snap back at 1000 down or stress leading up to the event in other financial markets.
I agree with you there. One fat finger won’t take down multiple stocks simultaneously. It could be someone attacking trailing stops on stocks in order to cause a ‘cascade’. This is done by looking at all the listed trailing stops.. and if there enough, placing a buy order to cover, several places below the trailing stops and then shorting hard to drive down the stock and trigger the stops to cause further stock sales.
It could also have been ‘automated’ transactions.. but any investment firm that puts all their triggers at the same relative price, could be setting themselves up for a loss. The only way they could profit is by ‘convincing’ someone else to part with their stocks at yet a lower price.
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