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March 17, 2008 at 5:04 PM #12149March 17, 2008 at 6:29 PM #171952Rich ToscanoKeymaster
Here it is in all its glory:
http://www.economics.pomona.edu/GarySmith/SoCalHousingBubble.pdf
If I recall, this paper argued that since home prices always went up, it wasn’t actually expensive to buy homes because you’d get capital gains. I don’t remember if I wrote about it but I did lambast a paper making the same ridiculous argument written by three dudes from the Wharton School, Columbia, and the NY Fed.
http://real.wharton.upenn.edu/~sinai/papers/Housing-Bubble-Himmelberg-Mayer-Sinai-wp-09-07-2005.pdf
(shorter and more arrogant WSJ editorial version here): http://real.wharton.upenn.edu/~sinai/papers/WSJ_Bubble_Trouble.pdfOnce again, these were high profile economics professors/PhDs making the argument that homes were cheap because the apparently guaranteed capital gains would pay back buyers’ costs! Pathetic. My rebuttals:
Rich
March 17, 2008 at 6:29 PM #172285Rich ToscanoKeymasterHere it is in all its glory:
http://www.economics.pomona.edu/GarySmith/SoCalHousingBubble.pdf
If I recall, this paper argued that since home prices always went up, it wasn’t actually expensive to buy homes because you’d get capital gains. I don’t remember if I wrote about it but I did lambast a paper making the same ridiculous argument written by three dudes from the Wharton School, Columbia, and the NY Fed.
http://real.wharton.upenn.edu/~sinai/papers/Housing-Bubble-Himmelberg-Mayer-Sinai-wp-09-07-2005.pdf
(shorter and more arrogant WSJ editorial version here): http://real.wharton.upenn.edu/~sinai/papers/WSJ_Bubble_Trouble.pdfOnce again, these were high profile economics professors/PhDs making the argument that homes were cheap because the apparently guaranteed capital gains would pay back buyers’ costs! Pathetic. My rebuttals:
Rich
March 17, 2008 at 6:29 PM #172290Rich ToscanoKeymasterHere it is in all its glory:
http://www.economics.pomona.edu/GarySmith/SoCalHousingBubble.pdf
If I recall, this paper argued that since home prices always went up, it wasn’t actually expensive to buy homes because you’d get capital gains. I don’t remember if I wrote about it but I did lambast a paper making the same ridiculous argument written by three dudes from the Wharton School, Columbia, and the NY Fed.
http://real.wharton.upenn.edu/~sinai/papers/Housing-Bubble-Himmelberg-Mayer-Sinai-wp-09-07-2005.pdf
(shorter and more arrogant WSJ editorial version here): http://real.wharton.upenn.edu/~sinai/papers/WSJ_Bubble_Trouble.pdfOnce again, these were high profile economics professors/PhDs making the argument that homes were cheap because the apparently guaranteed capital gains would pay back buyers’ costs! Pathetic. My rebuttals:
Rich
March 17, 2008 at 6:29 PM #172310Rich ToscanoKeymasterHere it is in all its glory:
http://www.economics.pomona.edu/GarySmith/SoCalHousingBubble.pdf
If I recall, this paper argued that since home prices always went up, it wasn’t actually expensive to buy homes because you’d get capital gains. I don’t remember if I wrote about it but I did lambast a paper making the same ridiculous argument written by three dudes from the Wharton School, Columbia, and the NY Fed.
http://real.wharton.upenn.edu/~sinai/papers/Housing-Bubble-Himmelberg-Mayer-Sinai-wp-09-07-2005.pdf
(shorter and more arrogant WSJ editorial version here): http://real.wharton.upenn.edu/~sinai/papers/WSJ_Bubble_Trouble.pdfOnce again, these were high profile economics professors/PhDs making the argument that homes were cheap because the apparently guaranteed capital gains would pay back buyers’ costs! Pathetic. My rebuttals:
Rich
March 17, 2008 at 6:29 PM #172390Rich ToscanoKeymasterHere it is in all its glory:
http://www.economics.pomona.edu/GarySmith/SoCalHousingBubble.pdf
If I recall, this paper argued that since home prices always went up, it wasn’t actually expensive to buy homes because you’d get capital gains. I don’t remember if I wrote about it but I did lambast a paper making the same ridiculous argument written by three dudes from the Wharton School, Columbia, and the NY Fed.
http://real.wharton.upenn.edu/~sinai/papers/Housing-Bubble-Himmelberg-Mayer-Sinai-wp-09-07-2005.pdf
(shorter and more arrogant WSJ editorial version here): http://real.wharton.upenn.edu/~sinai/papers/WSJ_Bubble_Trouble.pdfOnce again, these were high profile economics professors/PhDs making the argument that homes were cheap because the apparently guaranteed capital gains would pay back buyers’ costs! Pathetic. My rebuttals:
Rich
March 17, 2008 at 6:50 PM #171962Deal HunterParticipantPhDs have no relevance in the markets. Remember the “geniuses” at LTCM? They were from Harvard and MIT. Then there’s “professor” Bernanke.
March 17, 2008 at 6:50 PM #172294Deal HunterParticipantPhDs have no relevance in the markets. Remember the “geniuses” at LTCM? They were from Harvard and MIT. Then there’s “professor” Bernanke.
March 17, 2008 at 6:50 PM #172300Deal HunterParticipantPhDs have no relevance in the markets. Remember the “geniuses” at LTCM? They were from Harvard and MIT. Then there’s “professor” Bernanke.
March 17, 2008 at 6:50 PM #172321Deal HunterParticipantPhDs have no relevance in the markets. Remember the “geniuses” at LTCM? They were from Harvard and MIT. Then there’s “professor” Bernanke.
March 17, 2008 at 6:50 PM #172400Deal HunterParticipantPhDs have no relevance in the markets. Remember the “geniuses” at LTCM? They were from Harvard and MIT. Then there’s “professor” Bernanke.
March 17, 2008 at 6:59 PM #171972temeculaguyParticipantThe original paper wasn’t from Cal poly anything, it was from Pomona College (1500 student liberal arts college), and of the three authors, only Gary Smith is still listed on the website as part of the faculty. Maybe the other two went full time into real estate.
http://www.economics.pomona.edu/staff.html
At least they acknowleged in their introduction that UCLA, Yale and Princeton professors all argue there is a bubble, but of course they must be smarter because room and board is 50k a year, just like the big boys. If those were my professors I would demand a refund. I’ve always maintained that the only skills I retained from college were research and filtering (learning to filter through all the crap that most professors spew).
I’d almost expect it from an obscure college smaller than most high schools, but the knuckleheads at Wharton have me suspicious that they were vying for a new building, maybe the Mozillo wing was on the drawing board.
March 17, 2008 at 6:59 PM #172306temeculaguyParticipantThe original paper wasn’t from Cal poly anything, it was from Pomona College (1500 student liberal arts college), and of the three authors, only Gary Smith is still listed on the website as part of the faculty. Maybe the other two went full time into real estate.
http://www.economics.pomona.edu/staff.html
At least they acknowleged in their introduction that UCLA, Yale and Princeton professors all argue there is a bubble, but of course they must be smarter because room and board is 50k a year, just like the big boys. If those were my professors I would demand a refund. I’ve always maintained that the only skills I retained from college were research and filtering (learning to filter through all the crap that most professors spew).
I’d almost expect it from an obscure college smaller than most high schools, but the knuckleheads at Wharton have me suspicious that they were vying for a new building, maybe the Mozillo wing was on the drawing board.
March 17, 2008 at 6:59 PM #172308temeculaguyParticipantThe original paper wasn’t from Cal poly anything, it was from Pomona College (1500 student liberal arts college), and of the three authors, only Gary Smith is still listed on the website as part of the faculty. Maybe the other two went full time into real estate.
http://www.economics.pomona.edu/staff.html
At least they acknowleged in their introduction that UCLA, Yale and Princeton professors all argue there is a bubble, but of course they must be smarter because room and board is 50k a year, just like the big boys. If those were my professors I would demand a refund. I’ve always maintained that the only skills I retained from college were research and filtering (learning to filter through all the crap that most professors spew).
I’d almost expect it from an obscure college smaller than most high schools, but the knuckleheads at Wharton have me suspicious that they were vying for a new building, maybe the Mozillo wing was on the drawing board.
March 17, 2008 at 6:59 PM #172331temeculaguyParticipantThe original paper wasn’t from Cal poly anything, it was from Pomona College (1500 student liberal arts college), and of the three authors, only Gary Smith is still listed on the website as part of the faculty. Maybe the other two went full time into real estate.
http://www.economics.pomona.edu/staff.html
At least they acknowleged in their introduction that UCLA, Yale and Princeton professors all argue there is a bubble, but of course they must be smarter because room and board is 50k a year, just like the big boys. If those were my professors I would demand a refund. I’ve always maintained that the only skills I retained from college were research and filtering (learning to filter through all the crap that most professors spew).
I’d almost expect it from an obscure college smaller than most high schools, but the knuckleheads at Wharton have me suspicious that they were vying for a new building, maybe the Mozillo wing was on the drawing board.
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