Reasons I cannot vote for Trump

[Anonymous]

OMG Joe Biden said a few awkward things during his nearly half-century career as a national leader!

Jesus Christ …. you actually brought his dead wife and kid into it? That’s a Rush Limbaugh kinda classy!

Sad that you took the time to tee up that list.

So njtosd thinks Palin and Biden are political equals.

Here’s your gal! http://www.sarahpac.com

[Rich Toscano]

BG, a couple further thoughts on your “Dem leaning” comment. If you look through this forum’s long history and try to find me ever taking a side on the R-vs-D debate, you won’t find anything. I don’t participate in those debates (and don’t find them very useful or interesting fwiw).

This is not about R vs D or L vs C. It’s about Donald Trump, the person. My antipathy towards him is not because of his political party, but because he is a terrible, terrible person who brings out the worst in other people.

He takes everything I loathe about modern US politics — the mean-spiritedness, the disdain for facts and analysis, the bullying, the shouting, the anti-intellectual and anti-science bias, the conspiracy theories, and more — and he multiplies it by 10, and discards the rest. To me, he represents the very worst of American culture, distilled, with nothing to redeem him.

I don’t care what party he is with. I just couldn’t care less. He’s an abomination, whatever his party. I would vote for practically anyone over Trump. Even you, BG!

So please, spare me the accusations of “partisanship”…

[bearishgurl]

[quote=Rich Toscano]So please, spare me the accusations of “partisanship”…[/quote]Rich, I wasn’t accusing you, in particular, of “partisanship.” I know you don’t make a habit of commenting in the forums. There are a few frequent posters here who are “Dem-leaning” or “left-leaning” and that is okay. What is not okay is when a poster stated that they intended to vote for or voted for Trump (me in this case) in the primary and gets gored by one or more of these Pigg goons more than a few times by being called a “racist,” “bigot” and a “woman-hater,” among other things.

As a longtime Dem and former Dem boots-on-the-ground local activist, I GET the philosophy … I truly do. I explained the reason here on the forum in nauseating detail why I switched my party in 2016 (R candidates all stated they had plans for alternatives to the horribly failing Obamacare). When I switched in April, it was to vote for Cruz in the primary, who intended to set about repealing Obamacare on his first day in office.

Trump is not “my buddy.” I don’t personally know the man. However, the POTUS position is a down and dirty job, but somebody has to do it! Trump is the only candidate with the intestinal fortitude to do what needs to be done in this country, which has been going down the wrong path since before Pres. Obama took the helm (I voted for him TWICE, btw …). I don’t CARE about the MSM making hay of Trump’s rhetoric or how many of the Right Wing nutjobs in the GOP end up “disavowing” him. I don’t need my president to be “nice” and “likeable.” I honestly don’t think Trump is a true Republican. I think he felt he couldn’t win the election running as an Independent so he chose to run on the (crowded) Republican ticket.

HRC is NOT the right person to run this country, IMO. She didn’t even have enough courage to quietly walk away from her serial-philanderer of a spouse (after he left public office) … in SPITE of the fact that she was extremely well-educated and successful in her own right.

“Billy Bob” made a colossal fool of HRC in broad daylight for over two decades, and, like the Chump she is, she looked the other way. And one only has to look at her and listen to her now to realize that she has suffered tremendously in every way, shape and form over the years because of it. Although several years older than me, I actually consider HRC one of my “contemporaries.” In my mind, she doesn’t set a good example for girls and women. She doesn’t represent me and my values, nor does she represent the values of my close friends and relatives because she doesn’t live her truth but instead panders to what she thinks people want to hear … all for the possibility of obtaining the power of the position of the highest office in the land. Although perfectly “legal,” HRC and Billy Bob are card-carrying members of the “mutual user’s club.” They deserve each other until one of them is gone.

[scaredyclassic]

what this country needs is a good 5 cent cigar and other things…

http://www.quotecounterquote.com/2011/03/what-this-country-needs-is-good-five.html?m=1

[scaredyclassic]

what this country needs is a good 5 cent cigar and other things…

http://www.quotecounterquote.com/2011/03/what-this-country-needs-is-good-five.html?m=1

[njtosd]

[quote=harvey]OMG Joe Biden said a few awkward things during his nearly half-century career as a national leader!

Jesus Christ …. you actually brought his dead wife and kid into it? That’s a Rush Limbaugh kinda classy!

Sad that you took the time to tee up that list.

So njtosd thinks Palin and Biden are political equals.

Here’s your gal! http://www.sarahpac.com[/quote%5D

I think Palin and Biden (and you) are equally stupid. Make of that what you will.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=bearishgurl]
HRC is NOT the right person to run this country, IMO. She didn’t even have enough courage to quietly walk away from her serial-philanderer of a spouse (after he left public office) … in SPITE of the fact that she was extremely well-educated and successful in her own right.

“Billy Bob” made a colossal fool of HRC in broad daylight for over two decades, and, like the Chump she is, she looked the other way. And one only has to look at her and listen to her now to realize that she has suffered tremendously in every way, shape and form over the years because of it. Although several years older than me, I actually consider HRC one of my “contemporaries.” In my mind, she doesn’t set a good example for girls and women. She doesn’t represent me and my values, nor does she represent the values of my close friends and relatives because she doesn’t live her truth but instead panders to what she thinks people want to hear … all for the possibility of obtaining the power of the position of the highest office in the land. Although perfectly “legal,” HRC and Billy Bob are card-carrying members of the “mutual user’s club.” They deserve each other until one of them is gone.[/quote]

BG, I find it interesting that you say that Bill and Hillary deserve each other, but then you think Hillary should have left her husband because she’s “well-educated and successful in her own right”.

Despite what others may think, Bill and Hillary staying together takes a lot of courage and honors marriage ’til death do us part. Historically, women divorcing their husbands is a religious no no.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=njtosd]simply identifying as one party or the other doesn’t make someone good or bad. [/quote]

That depends how out of whack that party. Not all parties are the same. R and D are not yin and yang in the natural universe. Parties do become whacked out and die off and new parties will form.

Incidentally, I find it interesting that Republicans love the concept of collective responsibility/guilt when applied to others, but they reject it when it comes to their party choosing Trump.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Rich Toscano]
He takes everything I loathe about modern US politics — the mean-spiritedness, the disdain for facts and analysis, the bullying, the shouting, the anti-intellectual and anti-science bias, the conspiracy theories, and more — and he multiplies it by 10, and discards the rest. To me, he represents the very worst of American culture, distilled, with nothing to redeem him.[/quote]

I understand that your list of Trump’s despicable qualities is incomplete because otherwise it would go on and on … but you can’t leave out the hypocrisy. He made a mini-career out of trying to “vet” Obama’s “credentials” with the birther nonsense, college transcripts crap, etc.

And now he’s the first candidate in decades that hasn’t released his tax returns.

[scaredyclassic]

does an audit make ut even more necessary to release returns. if its not squeaky clean, dont people have an interest in knowing that too?

[scaredyclassic]

in a way trump is like mr money mustache. its nice and conforting to hear bold statements in a confident tone

[Rich Toscano]

[quote=harvey]
I understand that your list of Trump’s despicable qualities is incomplete because otherwise it would go on and on … but you can’t leave out the hypocrisy.[/quote]

Yep — hypocrisy should have been on there too. Good one. He’s an unbelievable hypocrite… how he runs his business and life is at complete odds with what he says in the campaign. That’s another list that could go on forever…

[FlyerInHi]

Did you guy see the naked statues of Trump? Oh man, I feel sorry for Melania.

http://www.theverge.com/2016/8/18/12538672/nude-donald-trump-statues-union-square-los-angeles-indecline

[flyer]

Since everyone is entitled to his or her opinion, imo, both parties have nominated abominable candidates, and I know a lot of people who feel that way. That’s all I’m going to say.

[all]

[quote=FlyerInHi] Oh man, I feel sorry for Melania.
[/quote]

I’m pretty sure the feelings would be mutual, if she knew who you were ;p

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