Reasons I cannot vote for Trump

[Rich Toscano]

Anyone who endorsed Trump is a permanent loser whom I will hold in total contempt forever. There’s no going back from that. Of course, I’m sure others feel differently.

[livinincali]

[quote=zk]Hypothetical scenario: Late October, and it becomes apparent that Trump is going to lose. Do many republican politicians who are still endorsing Trump at that time suddenly jump ship, hoping to save their careers? Calculating that it will sooner or later become the consensus of the vast majority of Americans that Trump truly was a lying, racist, misogynist, fascist, thin-skinned, vengeful, war-loving (his own words) ignoramus who would’ve been an extremely dangerous president, and not wanting to be seen as having blindly supported him?

That would be interesting to watch.[/quote]

I don’t think your going to see that many people walk back from that endorsement. There just aren’t a lot of competitive races for house or senate. I guess we can watch Darrell Issa. He endorsed Trump and is in a competitive race for his seat in the house. I think in a competitive race my best guess is candidates are going to try to walk away from Trump and Clinton if they can. They definitely don’t want that to be the focus of their campaign.

At this point I still believe Neither or Anybody Else would win in a landslide vs Trump or Clinton. This is seriously the election of I’m voting so the other person won’t win. I guess I can vote for the libertarian candidate Gary Johnson again.

[FlyerInHi]

njtosd, this link is for you.
If you like science this is an interesting article on social and psychological science.

http://wapo.st/2axzs4x

[an]

[quote=Rich Toscano]Anyone who endorsed Trump is a permanent loser whom I will hold in total contempt forever. There’s no going back from that. Of course, I’m sure others feel differently.[/quote]
I totally agree. They make their beds and will have to sleep in it.

[FlyerInHi]

Livinincali, I agree that few Republicans will walk back their endorsement of Trump. But for the few who would, the task has been made almost impossible because of Obama’s declarations.

Bloomberg was thinking of running as an independent; he didn’t and endorsed Hillary. He’s hardly “anyone” and he didn’t think he could win.

I think Hillary wins in a landslide and Democrats win back the Senate. But we shall see in November.

[svelte]

Just the fact that enough voters were found to make Trump the Republican nominee scares the crap out of me.

Really, are there that many gullible people in this country? Man, I got in the wrong business. I should have made millions exploiting that gullibility.

Of course, if I had, my name would be Trump then wouldn’t it?

[Myriad]

Today it’s Muslims, tomorrow it’s Mexicans, then Asians… what’s after that? Jews?
So does he plan to put the millions of Muslims and Mexicans in camps before he deports them?

[flyer]

With more and and more of the population descending financially, it will be interesting to see if the new President can solve income inequality–an issue voters should realize may be one of the most critical issues of our lifetime.

Since this chasm continues to increase, this problem has, apparently, not been solved by either party so far, and it will definitely be interesting to see what the charts look like four years from now on an issue of such critical importance to so many.

http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-hiltzik-ft-graphic-20160320-snap-htmlstory.html

[Myriad]

I don’t think this something either party necessarily could solve. With the end of the Cold War and opening of China, the world had to absorb 500M+ new workers into the global system. That created a gap in the high-wage countries where middle tier and low tier skilled work shifted to those countries.
Now that workforce has more or less been absorbed and the workforce has aged considerably. For example production in China is almost as expensive as the US now, accounting for shipping, energy, insurance, etc. Now with new technology and shift in consumer demand to more immediate needs, I think we’ll see a shift in middle tier skilled labor back to developed economies.

[Coronita]

I read somewhere a significant cause of manufacturing job losses comes from automation. What percentage of that versus outsourcing, I forget. Need to dig that up.

[flyer]

Good points, and I realize there are many reasons for the problem, but, my point is that, masses of desperate voters actually believe politicians can change their lives, and yet, these numbers tell a different story, so, from that perspective, I still think it will be interesting to see whether or not these numbers (and, consequently, voters lives) actually improve going forward or not. My guess would be not.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=flyer]Good points, and I realize there are many reasons for the problem, but, my point is that, masses of desperate voters actually believe politicians can change their lives, and yet, these numbers tell a different story, so, from that perspective, I still think it will be interesting to see whether or not these numbers (and, consequently, voters lives) actually improve going forward or not. My guess would be not.[/quote]

Here’s an interesting article about slow growth.

Actually politicians can adopt more growth friendly policies. We, in USA, are doing better the rest of the world. But there were missed opportunity in infrastructure. It’s been 8 years since the recession and many workers’ skills have atrophied.

Basically, Trump supporters, low-education Whites in non-gateway cities are stagnating and they are looking for blame.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=Myriad]I don’t think this something either party necessarily could solve. With the end of the Cold War and opening of China, the world had to absorb 500M+ new workers into the global system. That created a gap in the high-wage countries where middle tier and low tier skilled work shifted to those countries.
Now that workforce has more or less been absorbed and the workforce has aged considerably. For example production in China is almost as expensive as the US now, accounting for shipping, energy, insurance, etc. Now with new technology and shift in consumer demand to more immediate needs, I think we’ll see a shift in middle tier skilled labor back to developed economies.[/quote]There you go again, Myriad. The “world” didn’t “have” to “absorb” 500M (Chinese) workers. The “world” doesn’t owe these workers a damn thing! In the case of the US, what actually happened was that our leaders actually gave away our jobs to the Chinese at our expense! Even the “high tier” executive and white-collar professional jobs disappeared along with the US manufacturer-employers who closed up shop in the US and moved to MX or overseas to take advantage of slave labor. It was our OWN esteemed leaders who sold American workers down the river by creating NAFTA and other trade agreements making it possible for our OWN manufacturers to get their goods made for pennies on the dollar in another country! US citizens didn’t really need all this cheap Chinese junk back then and we don’t need it now. America’s millions of displaced workers would rather have a selection of JOBS to choose from in their respective locales rather than regular freight trains loaded with double-stacked Chinese crates barreling through their towns at all hours of the day and night to unload at big box stores coast to coast. One used to be able to leave a job easily and have another one waiting to start in the same locale but this is now near impossible to do in most cities and towns.

Since you couched what happened to millions of American jobs in language which appears to be making excuses here, I don’t mind discussing what really happened. Regardless if a so-called “global `system'” actually exists … or not, we Americans aren’t responsible for China’s population explosion OR their unemployment level.

[Coronita]

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[Coronita]

You know what I’m thankful for? I am thankful that in America there are still lots of people who are white, who are not like BG.

For all of you piggs that are “white” who don’t stoop so low to blame someone that isn’t white on all of your financial problems and career limitations because you chose not to go to college and chose never to go back, I thank you for being the shred of decency left in this country.

I don’t know how what your financial situation is BG. But you certainly have no class. No amount of money can fix that.

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