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September 22, 2009 at 5:13 PM #461120September 22, 2009 at 8:28 PM #460347
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Participantpartypup, you are misinformed. I know the article is a bit confusing, but it is your responsibility to do a bit of research on something that sounds completely improbable and comes from a biased source.
The White House is collecting and storing comments and videos placed on its social-networking sites such as Facebook, Twitter and YouTube
Here is the article that details it in a bit more clear way
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/53363So unless you post on facebook.com/whitehouse , your trolling will not be stored in presidential records.
That said, NSA probably can read your private posts on facebook, since Congress and G.W. Bush granted telecom companies immunity from being sued for warrantless wiretaps. Democrats in congress have a bill that will remove this immunity, but I am sure that Ron Paul will be only freedom loving Republican that will support it.
September 22, 2009 at 8:28 PM #460539air_ogi
Participantpartypup, you are misinformed. I know the article is a bit confusing, but it is your responsibility to do a bit of research on something that sounds completely improbable and comes from a biased source.
The White House is collecting and storing comments and videos placed on its social-networking sites such as Facebook, Twitter and YouTube
Here is the article that details it in a bit more clear way
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/53363So unless you post on facebook.com/whitehouse , your trolling will not be stored in presidential records.
That said, NSA probably can read your private posts on facebook, since Congress and G.W. Bush granted telecom companies immunity from being sued for warrantless wiretaps. Democrats in congress have a bill that will remove this immunity, but I am sure that Ron Paul will be only freedom loving Republican that will support it.
September 22, 2009 at 8:28 PM #460880air_ogi
Participantpartypup, you are misinformed. I know the article is a bit confusing, but it is your responsibility to do a bit of research on something that sounds completely improbable and comes from a biased source.
The White House is collecting and storing comments and videos placed on its social-networking sites such as Facebook, Twitter and YouTube
Here is the article that details it in a bit more clear way
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/53363So unless you post on facebook.com/whitehouse , your trolling will not be stored in presidential records.
That said, NSA probably can read your private posts on facebook, since Congress and G.W. Bush granted telecom companies immunity from being sued for warrantless wiretaps. Democrats in congress have a bill that will remove this immunity, but I am sure that Ron Paul will be only freedom loving Republican that will support it.
September 22, 2009 at 8:28 PM #460952air_ogi
Participantpartypup, you are misinformed. I know the article is a bit confusing, but it is your responsibility to do a bit of research on something that sounds completely improbable and comes from a biased source.
The White House is collecting and storing comments and videos placed on its social-networking sites such as Facebook, Twitter and YouTube
Here is the article that details it in a bit more clear way
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/53363So unless you post on facebook.com/whitehouse , your trolling will not be stored in presidential records.
That said, NSA probably can read your private posts on facebook, since Congress and G.W. Bush granted telecom companies immunity from being sued for warrantless wiretaps. Democrats in congress have a bill that will remove this immunity, but I am sure that Ron Paul will be only freedom loving Republican that will support it.
September 22, 2009 at 8:28 PM #461154air_ogi
Participantpartypup, you are misinformed. I know the article is a bit confusing, but it is your responsibility to do a bit of research on something that sounds completely improbable and comes from a biased source.
The White House is collecting and storing comments and videos placed on its social-networking sites such as Facebook, Twitter and YouTube
Here is the article that details it in a bit more clear way
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/53363So unless you post on facebook.com/whitehouse , your trolling will not be stored in presidential records.
That said, NSA probably can read your private posts on facebook, since Congress and G.W. Bush granted telecom companies immunity from being sued for warrantless wiretaps. Democrats in congress have a bill that will remove this immunity, but I am sure that Ron Paul will be only freedom loving Republican that will support it.
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September 22, 2009 at 11:54 PM #460446jonnycsd
Participant[quote=CricketOnTheHearth]The only two major options for affecting what our leaders do is voting them in or out of office, or taking to the streets in armed mobs. A third option is economic, but there is only so much corpor-rat crap we can refuse to buy… gotta eat and drive to work, after all.
And if our vote is rigged and gamed, and we are never presented with any but corporately-approved candidates, what options does that leave us?
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IMHO gerrymandering has really shifted power away from the voter and towards the parties and thier clients, which are often corporations and nearly always special interest groups. Generally, the politicians running in a gerrymandered district already know if it will go Democrat or Republican. What matters to them is wining the parties nomination, not winning the election. Gerrymandering pre-allocates seats to each party and effectively removes the need for politicians to respond to ALL of thier consituents and replaces it with the need only to respond to the party they affiliate with.
To fix this, the enire concept of gerrymandering needs to be banished!
September 22, 2009 at 11:54 PM #460638jonnycsd
Participant[quote=CricketOnTheHearth]The only two major options for affecting what our leaders do is voting them in or out of office, or taking to the streets in armed mobs. A third option is economic, but there is only so much corpor-rat crap we can refuse to buy… gotta eat and drive to work, after all.
And if our vote is rigged and gamed, and we are never presented with any but corporately-approved candidates, what options does that leave us?
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IMHO gerrymandering has really shifted power away from the voter and towards the parties and thier clients, which are often corporations and nearly always special interest groups. Generally, the politicians running in a gerrymandered district already know if it will go Democrat or Republican. What matters to them is wining the parties nomination, not winning the election. Gerrymandering pre-allocates seats to each party and effectively removes the need for politicians to respond to ALL of thier consituents and replaces it with the need only to respond to the party they affiliate with.
To fix this, the enire concept of gerrymandering needs to be banished!
September 22, 2009 at 11:54 PM #460979jonnycsd
Participant[quote=CricketOnTheHearth]The only two major options for affecting what our leaders do is voting them in or out of office, or taking to the streets in armed mobs. A third option is economic, but there is only so much corpor-rat crap we can refuse to buy… gotta eat and drive to work, after all.
And if our vote is rigged and gamed, and we are never presented with any but corporately-approved candidates, what options does that leave us?
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IMHO gerrymandering has really shifted power away from the voter and towards the parties and thier clients, which are often corporations and nearly always special interest groups. Generally, the politicians running in a gerrymandered district already know if it will go Democrat or Republican. What matters to them is wining the parties nomination, not winning the election. Gerrymandering pre-allocates seats to each party and effectively removes the need for politicians to respond to ALL of thier consituents and replaces it with the need only to respond to the party they affiliate with.
To fix this, the enire concept of gerrymandering needs to be banished!
September 22, 2009 at 11:54 PM #461052jonnycsd
Participant[quote=CricketOnTheHearth]The only two major options for affecting what our leaders do is voting them in or out of office, or taking to the streets in armed mobs. A third option is economic, but there is only so much corpor-rat crap we can refuse to buy… gotta eat and drive to work, after all.
And if our vote is rigged and gamed, and we are never presented with any but corporately-approved candidates, what options does that leave us?
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IMHO gerrymandering has really shifted power away from the voter and towards the parties and thier clients, which are often corporations and nearly always special interest groups. Generally, the politicians running in a gerrymandered district already know if it will go Democrat or Republican. What matters to them is wining the parties nomination, not winning the election. Gerrymandering pre-allocates seats to each party and effectively removes the need for politicians to respond to ALL of thier consituents and replaces it with the need only to respond to the party they affiliate with.
To fix this, the enire concept of gerrymandering needs to be banished!
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