price collapse in Chula Vista

[cantab]

http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1144715

This has been mentioned elsewhere, but it’s worth highlighting and discussing.

Built in 2005, sold in December 2005 for $1,057,000, now listed for $610,000. Asking $180 per sqft.

Zillow shows prices collapsing in this neighborhood
in the last three months, and this listing indicates a further collapse.

[KIBU]

When I looked at the picture of the children room in that house, it gave me a very sad feeling. People with dreams and love and family and especially kids are going to be ruined by this downturn of real estate.

f*** all the liars who contributed to this mess.

[patientrenter]

KIBU, (these) people can live in homes without owning them. That’s what the rest of us do.

Patient renter in OC

[patientrenter]

KIBU, (these) people can live in homes without owning them. That’s what the rest of us do.

Patient renter in OC

[patientrenter]

KIBU, (these) people can live in homes without owning them. That’s what the rest of us do.

Patient renter in OC

[patientrenter]

KIBU, (these) people can live in homes without owning them. That’s what the rest of us do.

Patient renter in OC

[patientrenter]

KIBU, (these) people can live in homes without owning them. That’s what the rest of us do.

Patient renter in OC

[PadreBrian]

That should sell well.

It’s another no money down, paid too much, variable intrest rate story.

[Eugene]

Wow. On one tiny street (50-ish homes) we have:

1271 Silver Hawk Way (2,963 sf) – $750k to $791k, original sale $608k (??)
1304 Silver Hawk Way (3,096 sf) – $650k, original sale $911k
1308 Silver Hawk Way (3,381 sf) – $610k to $626k, original sale $1.06m
1315 Silver Hawk Way (3,136 sf) – $700k to $725k, original sale $918k
1316 Silver Hawk Way (3,080 sf) – $686k, REO
1319 Silver Hawk Way (3,381 sf) – $775k, REO
1327 Silver Hawk Way (3,136 sf) – $625k to $650k, original sale $894.5k

1260 Silver Hawk Way (2,565 sf) – REO, currently unlisted
1328 Silver Hawk Way (2,909 sf) – was foreclosed and sold as a REO to a knife catcher for $740k

[Eugene]

BTW I’m willing to bet twenty bucks that
* It’s a short sale for at least $200k below their loan balance
* They haven’t talked to the bank recently
* If you make them an offer for $610k, bank will decline the short sale

[BuyerWillEPB]

esmith, I agree with you. But in my opinion, it’s the trend that is our friend here. This particular low list price might be rejected, but the important part is that another lower plateau has been breached. That means many more will follow and some of those will sell thereby setting the new comps and continuing the downward spiral.

Would you have even dared to hope for such a listing even 1 year or 2 years ago? No way. This is more pressure in our favor (and good news for all regular families, actually).

[Eugene]

Would you have even dared to hope for such a listing even 1 year or 2 years ago? No way. This is more pressure in our favor (and good news for all regular families, actually).

What really amazes me is that people really paid 900k-1m for those houses a year or two ago. In 2005, you could have gotten a new 3000 square foot house in 4S Ranch for high 700’s. Yes it’s a different part of town but come on. Even the climate is better in 4S Ranch. Especially if you have kids. Would you rather have your children rub elbows with illegal aliens and kids from Chula Vista ghettos, or send them to a school with good demographic in Poway school district?

[sdrealtor]

From my experience, mortgage brokers generally ask their clients if they are planning on buying a new car anytime soon when they qualify them. At least the good mortgage brokers I know do. They tell them to hold off until after closing because it will improve the rate they get as their FICo and debt ratios will be better. So its probably a matter of folks deferring new car purchases not intoxication.

[sdrealtor]

From my experience, mortgage brokers generally ask their clients if they are planning on buying a new car anytime soon when they qualify them. At least the good mortgage brokers I know do. They tell them to hold off until after closing because it will improve the rate they get as their FICo and debt ratios will be better. So its probably a matter of folks deferring new car purchases not intoxication.

[sdrealtor]

From my experience, mortgage brokers generally ask their clients if they are planning on buying a new car anytime soon when they qualify them. At least the good mortgage brokers I know do. They tell them to hold off until after closing because it will improve the rate they get as their FICo and debt ratios will be better. So its probably a matter of folks deferring new car purchases not intoxication.

[sdrealtor]

From my experience, mortgage brokers generally ask their clients if they are planning on buying a new car anytime soon when they qualify them. At least the good mortgage brokers I know do. They tell them to hold off until after closing because it will improve the rate they get as their FICo and debt ratios will be better. So its probably a matter of folks deferring new car purchases not intoxication.

[sdrealtor]

From my experience, mortgage brokers generally ask their clients if they are planning on buying a new car anytime soon when they qualify them. At least the good mortgage brokers I know do. They tell them to hold off until after closing because it will improve the rate they get as their FICo and debt ratios will be better. So its probably a matter of folks deferring new car purchases not intoxication.

[Anonymous]

“Would you rather have your children rub elbows with illegal aliens and kids from Chula Vista ghettos, or send them to a school with good demographic in Poway school district?”

Chula Vista is not ghetto, National City (which borders Chula Vista), South Bay, City Heights, these are ghetto. Get your facts straight esmith.

Although I do agree with the fact that the closer you get to the border, the uglier and dirtier some areas get, I disagree that Chula Vista isn’t just as good as some of the neighborhoods further up North. Chula Vista happens to have very nice areas and good school: Rolling Hills, Eastlake, Bonita, and some areas in old Chula Vista which happen to be very nice as well. I think it’s unfair to judge Chula Vista in a negative manner just because there are a higher percentage of immigrants. I have been a resident in old Chula Vista since we moved from Tennessee 8 years ago. We sold our condo back in May in old Chula Vista, and currently we rent in the nicest part of Chula Vista hoping that prices will fall even more so that we may purchase our home – target area—Rolling Hills/Eastlake.

Just out of curiosity, are you familiar with the nice areas of Chula Vista, have you ever visited esmith?

[Eugene]

“Chula Vista is not ghetto, National City (which borders Chula Vista), South Bay, City Heights, these are ghetto. Get your facts straight esmith.”

Otay Lakes and Eastlake are not ghettos, but some areas further to the west are lower-middle-class neighborhoods, especially west of 805.

One way to look measure “ghetto”‘ness is the percentage of free/reduced price lunches (i.e. percentage of poor/ghetto kids in a school). In 4S Ranch and RB it’s something like 5-8%, in Eastlake it goes up to 15-20%. Although, even that is much better than district averages of 40%-ish in Chula Vista and Sweetwater districts.

Also the demographic does not help. Not that I’m a racist (I’m an immigrant myself) but I’m not sure if my kids would fit in well in a school where only 20% of kids are white.

[joebaduba]

they took it back without firing a shot

[equalizer]

I’m missing the pun joebaduba, do you mean that its no longer listed?

Are there any realtors from Chula Vista area that can comment on this street/neighborhood? Would SD/sdrealtor peruse few listing to check sales prices from 2005? Thanks

[joebaduba]

pun is… California once was a part of Mexico. I’ll leave it at that.

I live in the “older but nicer” part of Chula Vista west of 805, but it slips as every year goes by.

Sure, this house is in a nicer part of eastern CV, but unless it is really some impressive spread, which this is not, I can’t believe homes went for 7 figures anywhere down here.

[Eugene]

Reduced to 579,900 :-O

And it looks like he has some competition:

http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=993872

Will one of them have the honor of being the first Eastlake/Otay Ranch McMansion to break $150/sf barrier, or will some knife catcher (or two) jump in and stop the race to the bottom?

Or maybe it’ll be this one?

http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1168142

Not quite a McMansion (measly 2107 sf) but very aggressively priced and it’s a REO so we know that the price is “real”.
At $351,500, it’s very close to breaking another important barrier – the first house to sell for 50% off the peak…

[Jumby]

Thanks for posting this esmith!

[Jumby]

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[Jumby]

Thanks for posting this esmith!

[Jumby]

Thanks for posting this esmith!

[Jumby]

Thanks for posting this esmith!

[meadandale]

I notice that they had the money for a massive (looks to be 65-70″) flatscreen and what looks to be some nice furniture. Apparently the house payment was an afterthought.

[meadandale]

I notice that they had the money for a massive (looks to be 65-70″) flatscreen and what looks to be some nice furniture. Apparently the house payment was an afterthought.

[meadandale]

I notice that they had the money for a massive (looks to be 65-70″) flatscreen and what looks to be some nice furniture. Apparently the house payment was an afterthought.

[meadandale]

I notice that they had the money for a massive (looks to be 65-70″) flatscreen and what looks to be some nice furniture. Apparently the house payment was an afterthought.

[meadandale]

I notice that they had the money for a massive (looks to be 65-70″) flatscreen and what looks to be some nice furniture. Apparently the house payment was an afterthought.

[CogSciGuy]

I love it!

[CogSciGuy]

I love it!

[CogSciGuy]

I love it!

[CogSciGuy]

I love it!

[CogSciGuy]

I love it!

[Eugene]

Reduced to 579,900 :-O

And it looks like he has some competition:

http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=993872

Will one of them have the honor of being the first Eastlake/Otay Ranch McMansion to break $150/sf barrier, or will some knife catcher (or two) jump in and stop the race to the bottom?

Or maybe it’ll be this one?

http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1168142

Not quite a McMansion (measly 2107 sf) but very aggressively priced and it’s a REO so we know that the price is “real”.
At $351,500, it’s very close to breaking another important barrier – the first house to sell for 50% off the peak…

[Eugene]

Reduced to 579,900 :-O

And it looks like he has some competition:

http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=993872

Will one of them have the honor of being the first Eastlake/Otay Ranch McMansion to break $150/sf barrier, or will some knife catcher (or two) jump in and stop the race to the bottom?

Or maybe it’ll be this one?

http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1168142

Not quite a McMansion (measly 2107 sf) but very aggressively priced and it’s a REO so we know that the price is “real”.
At $351,500, it’s very close to breaking another important barrier – the first house to sell for 50% off the peak…

[Eugene]

Reduced to 579,900 :-O

And it looks like he has some competition:

http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=993872

Will one of them have the honor of being the first Eastlake/Otay Ranch McMansion to break $150/sf barrier, or will some knife catcher (or two) jump in and stop the race to the bottom?

Or maybe it’ll be this one?

http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1168142

Not quite a McMansion (measly 2107 sf) but very aggressively priced and it’s a REO so we know that the price is “real”.
At $351,500, it’s very close to breaking another important barrier – the first house to sell for 50% off the peak…

[Eugene]

Reduced to 579,900 :-O

And it looks like he has some competition:

http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=993872

Will one of them have the honor of being the first Eastlake/Otay Ranch McMansion to break $150/sf barrier, or will some knife catcher (or two) jump in and stop the race to the bottom?

Or maybe it’ll be this one?

http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1168142

Not quite a McMansion (measly 2107 sf) but very aggressively priced and it’s a REO so we know that the price is “real”.
At $351,500, it’s very close to breaking another important barrier – the first house to sell for 50% off the peak…

[joebaduba]

pun is… California once was a part of Mexico. I’ll leave it at that.

I live in the “older but nicer” part of Chula Vista west of 805, but it slips as every year goes by.

Sure, this house is in a nicer part of eastern CV, but unless it is really some impressive spread, which this is not, I can’t believe homes went for 7 figures anywhere down here.

[joebaduba]

pun is… California once was a part of Mexico. I’ll leave it at that.

I live in the “older but nicer” part of Chula Vista west of 805, but it slips as every year goes by.

Sure, this house is in a nicer part of eastern CV, but unless it is really some impressive spread, which this is not, I can’t believe homes went for 7 figures anywhere down here.

[joebaduba]

pun is… California once was a part of Mexico. I’ll leave it at that.

I live in the “older but nicer” part of Chula Vista west of 805, but it slips as every year goes by.

Sure, this house is in a nicer part of eastern CV, but unless it is really some impressive spread, which this is not, I can’t believe homes went for 7 figures anywhere down here.

[joebaduba]

pun is… California once was a part of Mexico. I’ll leave it at that.

I live in the “older but nicer” part of Chula Vista west of 805, but it slips as every year goes by.

Sure, this house is in a nicer part of eastern CV, but unless it is really some impressive spread, which this is not, I can’t believe homes went for 7 figures anywhere down here.

[equalizer]

I’m missing the pun joebaduba, do you mean that its no longer listed?

Are there any realtors from Chula Vista area that can comment on this street/neighborhood? Would SD/sdrealtor peruse few listing to check sales prices from 2005? Thanks

[equalizer]

I’m missing the pun joebaduba, do you mean that its no longer listed?

Are there any realtors from Chula Vista area that can comment on this street/neighborhood? Would SD/sdrealtor peruse few listing to check sales prices from 2005? Thanks

[equalizer]

I’m missing the pun joebaduba, do you mean that its no longer listed?

Are there any realtors from Chula Vista area that can comment on this street/neighborhood? Would SD/sdrealtor peruse few listing to check sales prices from 2005? Thanks

[equalizer]

I’m missing the pun joebaduba, do you mean that its no longer listed?

Are there any realtors from Chula Vista area that can comment on this street/neighborhood? Would SD/sdrealtor peruse few listing to check sales prices from 2005? Thanks

[joebaduba]

they took it back without firing a shot

[joebaduba]

they took it back without firing a shot

[joebaduba]

they took it back without firing a shot

[joebaduba]

they took it back without firing a shot

[Eugene]

“Chula Vista is not ghetto, National City (which borders Chula Vista), South Bay, City Heights, these are ghetto. Get your facts straight esmith.”

Otay Lakes and Eastlake are not ghettos, but some areas further to the west are lower-middle-class neighborhoods, especially west of 805.

One way to look measure “ghetto”‘ness is the percentage of free/reduced price lunches (i.e. percentage of poor/ghetto kids in a school). In 4S Ranch and RB it’s something like 5-8%, in Eastlake it goes up to 15-20%. Although, even that is much better than district averages of 40%-ish in Chula Vista and Sweetwater districts.

Also the demographic does not help. Not that I’m a racist (I’m an immigrant myself) but I’m not sure if my kids would fit in well in a school where only 20% of kids are white.

[Eugene]

“Chula Vista is not ghetto, National City (which borders Chula Vista), South Bay, City Heights, these are ghetto. Get your facts straight esmith.”

Otay Lakes and Eastlake are not ghettos, but some areas further to the west are lower-middle-class neighborhoods, especially west of 805.

One way to look measure “ghetto”‘ness is the percentage of free/reduced price lunches (i.e. percentage of poor/ghetto kids in a school). In 4S Ranch and RB it’s something like 5-8%, in Eastlake it goes up to 15-20%. Although, even that is much better than district averages of 40%-ish in Chula Vista and Sweetwater districts.

Also the demographic does not help. Not that I’m a racist (I’m an immigrant myself) but I’m not sure if my kids would fit in well in a school where only 20% of kids are white.

[Eugene]

“Chula Vista is not ghetto, National City (which borders Chula Vista), South Bay, City Heights, these are ghetto. Get your facts straight esmith.”

Otay Lakes and Eastlake are not ghettos, but some areas further to the west are lower-middle-class neighborhoods, especially west of 805.

One way to look measure “ghetto”‘ness is the percentage of free/reduced price lunches (i.e. percentage of poor/ghetto kids in a school). In 4S Ranch and RB it’s something like 5-8%, in Eastlake it goes up to 15-20%. Although, even that is much better than district averages of 40%-ish in Chula Vista and Sweetwater districts.

Also the demographic does not help. Not that I’m a racist (I’m an immigrant myself) but I’m not sure if my kids would fit in well in a school where only 20% of kids are white.

[Eugene]

“Chula Vista is not ghetto, National City (which borders Chula Vista), South Bay, City Heights, these are ghetto. Get your facts straight esmith.”

Otay Lakes and Eastlake are not ghettos, but some areas further to the west are lower-middle-class neighborhoods, especially west of 805.

One way to look measure “ghetto”‘ness is the percentage of free/reduced price lunches (i.e. percentage of poor/ghetto kids in a school). In 4S Ranch and RB it’s something like 5-8%, in Eastlake it goes up to 15-20%. Although, even that is much better than district averages of 40%-ish in Chula Vista and Sweetwater districts.

Also the demographic does not help. Not that I’m a racist (I’m an immigrant myself) but I’m not sure if my kids would fit in well in a school where only 20% of kids are white.

[Anonymous]

“Would you rather have your children rub elbows with illegal aliens and kids from Chula Vista ghettos, or send them to a school with good demographic in Poway school district?”

Chula Vista is not ghetto, National City (which borders Chula Vista), South Bay, City Heights, these are ghetto. Get your facts straight esmith.

Although I do agree with the fact that the closer you get to the border, the uglier and dirtier some areas get, I disagree that Chula Vista isn’t just as good as some of the neighborhoods further up North. Chula Vista happens to have very nice areas and good school: Rolling Hills, Eastlake, Bonita, and some areas in old Chula Vista which happen to be very nice as well. I think it’s unfair to judge Chula Vista in a negative manner just because there are a higher percentage of immigrants. I have been a resident in old Chula Vista since we moved from Tennessee 8 years ago. We sold our condo back in May in old Chula Vista, and currently we rent in the nicest part of Chula Vista hoping that prices will fall even more so that we may purchase our home – target area—Rolling Hills/Eastlake.

Just out of curiosity, are you familiar with the nice areas of Chula Vista, have you ever visited esmith?

[Anonymous]

“Would you rather have your children rub elbows with illegal aliens and kids from Chula Vista ghettos, or send them to a school with good demographic in Poway school district?”

Chula Vista is not ghetto, National City (which borders Chula Vista), South Bay, City Heights, these are ghetto. Get your facts straight esmith.

Although I do agree with the fact that the closer you get to the border, the uglier and dirtier some areas get, I disagree that Chula Vista isn’t just as good as some of the neighborhoods further up North. Chula Vista happens to have very nice areas and good school: Rolling Hills, Eastlake, Bonita, and some areas in old Chula Vista which happen to be very nice as well. I think it’s unfair to judge Chula Vista in a negative manner just because there are a higher percentage of immigrants. I have been a resident in old Chula Vista since we moved from Tennessee 8 years ago. We sold our condo back in May in old Chula Vista, and currently we rent in the nicest part of Chula Vista hoping that prices will fall even more so that we may purchase our home – target area—Rolling Hills/Eastlake.

Just out of curiosity, are you familiar with the nice areas of Chula Vista, have you ever visited esmith?

[Anonymous]

“Would you rather have your children rub elbows with illegal aliens and kids from Chula Vista ghettos, or send them to a school with good demographic in Poway school district?”

Chula Vista is not ghetto, National City (which borders Chula Vista), South Bay, City Heights, these are ghetto. Get your facts straight esmith.

Although I do agree with the fact that the closer you get to the border, the uglier and dirtier some areas get, I disagree that Chula Vista isn’t just as good as some of the neighborhoods further up North. Chula Vista happens to have very nice areas and good school: Rolling Hills, Eastlake, Bonita, and some areas in old Chula Vista which happen to be very nice as well. I think it’s unfair to judge Chula Vista in a negative manner just because there are a higher percentage of immigrants. I have been a resident in old Chula Vista since we moved from Tennessee 8 years ago. We sold our condo back in May in old Chula Vista, and currently we rent in the nicest part of Chula Vista hoping that prices will fall even more so that we may purchase our home – target area—Rolling Hills/Eastlake.

Just out of curiosity, are you familiar with the nice areas of Chula Vista, have you ever visited esmith?

[Anonymous]

“Would you rather have your children rub elbows with illegal aliens and kids from Chula Vista ghettos, or send them to a school with good demographic in Poway school district?”

Chula Vista is not ghetto, National City (which borders Chula Vista), South Bay, City Heights, these are ghetto. Get your facts straight esmith.

Although I do agree with the fact that the closer you get to the border, the uglier and dirtier some areas get, I disagree that Chula Vista isn’t just as good as some of the neighborhoods further up North. Chula Vista happens to have very nice areas and good school: Rolling Hills, Eastlake, Bonita, and some areas in old Chula Vista which happen to be very nice as well. I think it’s unfair to judge Chula Vista in a negative manner just because there are a higher percentage of immigrants. I have been a resident in old Chula Vista since we moved from Tennessee 8 years ago. We sold our condo back in May in old Chula Vista, and currently we rent in the nicest part of Chula Vista hoping that prices will fall even more so that we may purchase our home – target area—Rolling Hills/Eastlake.

Just out of curiosity, are you familiar with the nice areas of Chula Vista, have you ever visited esmith?

[RDeNiro]

“Would you rather have your children rub elbows with illegal aliens and kids from Chula Vista ghettos, or send them to a school with good demographic in Poway school district?”

Wow!! and you are not a racist you say?? I wonder how you talk when you are with your friends and family. Damn! The sad part is, many of the people in this blog probably agree with you.

[PorkmanDelardo]

De Niro, you can’t win any arguements here. The racial overtones run rampant and yes many other people on this blog are of the same ilk. As soon as you throw it back in their face, first, they get all defensive, then they team up and go on the offensive. Same old same old. Try to get past the racist morons and read the site for what it is intended. That’s what I do. There are many good folks that post on the site with some great input, then you get the racists who try to substanciate their racist comments with a bunch of double -talk. No sense arguing with a fool. Porkman

[Anonymous]

Enough dropping the race card. It’s no secret that Chulajuana is full if illegal alians, of course so is all fo SD and the entire country for that matter. I don’t know anyone who is not concerned about the illegals all over the place and I’m not even a Republican. I guess we’re all racists.

[PorkmanDelardo]

I rest my case. Porkman

[Anonymous]

Okay porkman, where do you live since you are so open minded? If you are going to label people on this board anything, it would be elitist, not racist. We are generally successful, educated and make good money. It is common sense that we would not want to live in neighborhood full of poor people, trailer trash, etc. would you?? It just so happens that the poor areas of SD are full of illegals. Get a clue dude.

[Anonymous]

Okay porkman, where do you live since you are so open minded? If you are going to label people on this board anything, it would be elitist, not racist. We are generally successful, educated and make good money. It is common sense that we would not want to live in neighborhood full of poor people, trailer trash, etc. would you?? It just so happens that the poor areas of SD are full of illegals. Get a clue dude.

[Anonymous]

Okay porkman, where do you live since you are so open minded? If you are going to label people on this board anything, it would be elitist, not racist. We are generally successful, educated and make good money. It is common sense that we would not want to live in neighborhood full of poor people, trailer trash, etc. would you?? It just so happens that the poor areas of SD are full of illegals. Get a clue dude.

[Anonymous]

Okay porkman, where do you live since you are so open minded? If you are going to label people on this board anything, it would be elitist, not racist. We are generally successful, educated and make good money. It is common sense that we would not want to live in neighborhood full of poor people, trailer trash, etc. would you?? It just so happens that the poor areas of SD are full of illegals. Get a clue dude.

[Anonymous]

Okay porkman, where do you live since you are so open minded? If you are going to label people on this board anything, it would be elitist, not racist. We are generally successful, educated and make good money. It is common sense that we would not want to live in neighborhood full of poor people, trailer trash, etc. would you?? It just so happens that the poor areas of SD are full of illegals. Get a clue dude.

[PorkmanDelardo]

I rest my case. Porkman

[PorkmanDelardo]

I rest my case. Porkman

[PorkmanDelardo]

I rest my case. Porkman

[PorkmanDelardo]

I rest my case. Porkman

[RDeNiro]

Rubbing elbows with mexican kids isn’t that bad… I know a lot of Mexican kids. They are really nice, they have good values. Hey! your kid might even learn a little spanish.

[NotCranky]

“I don’t know anyone who is not concerned about the illegals all over the place and I’m not even a Republican.”

Really deadzone, you don’t know anyone who could care less or who perhaps believes that classifying people as “illegal” is more primitive and immoral than being “illegal” is?
That is amazing. I know many and I’m not even a Democrat.

Maybe they just don’t talk to you about it for some reason?

[Anonymous]

Okay rustico, so since you and your amigos are against classifying citizens, then you would be in favor of open borders and anyone from anywhere in the world can come here, live and work legally no questions asked? In other words, you are in favor of open immigration? If so, that is your perogative but you are definitely in the minority.

[NotCranky]

I didn’t say I held the beliefs in question. I am surprised that you don’t know anyone who did. I believe that there are are more “elites” who believe according to the view I outlined than there are people from the lower classes,not sure.

FTR: I not sure there are so many racists here. I think there are many people who don’t speak up against the occasional fit of racism for various reasons. I view protectionism differently from racism, although the two overlap quite easily and are often married in one line of primal defense of an entitlement posture.

O.K. Amigo?

[patientlywaiting]

I proudly support open immigration for different reasons. Of course, I keep quiet about it most of the time because I don’t want my house fire bombed.

*
For those who don’t know, Milton Friedman, the architect of Ronald Reagan’s economic revival/deregulations was a strong proponent of open borders. He kept quiet for the sake of expediency. For open immigration to be effective, you cannot have a welfare state, hence Reagan’s main goal was to dismantle the great society.

The Republicans business “elite” (not saying that I’m one) tend to support very liberal immigration policies, especially for college educated workers.

The “low-class” red voters should really spend some time reading and educating themselves a little more.

[Anonymous]

I can’t think of any other country in the world with “Open” borders, so why should we? Many countries are far stricter than the US (see Canada, Australia for example). I guess they are all just a bunch of racists up there in Canada since they won’t let us Americans move there.

[jimmyle]

I think this is a socioeconomic issue and not racism. Most illegal immigrants are underprivileged Mexicans and they came here because they don’t have access to good job and or education at home. Naturally these illegal immigrants gravitate toward more affordable areas joining other poor and less educated Americans. The best predictor of educational success of a student is his or her parent’s educational attainment. So it is not surprisingly that schools in these poorer areas fail to meet the minimum standard that many parents want.

If I have children I want them to go to the best schools I can afford. Right now these better equipped schools with good test scores happen to be in Poway or Carmel Valley areas and not in Chula Vista.

Any comment on the listing price of $579K?

[jimmyle]

I think this is a socioeconomic issue and not racism. Most illegal immigrants are underprivileged Mexicans and they came here because they don’t have access to good job and or education at home. Naturally these illegal immigrants gravitate toward more affordable areas joining other poor and less educated Americans. The best predictor of educational success of a student is his or her parent’s educational attainment. So it is not surprisingly that schools in these poorer areas fail to meet the minimum standard that many parents want.

If I have children I want them to go to the best schools I can afford. Right now these better equipped schools with good test scores happen to be in Poway or Carmel Valley areas and not in Chula Vista.

Any comment on the listing price of $579K?

[jimmyle]

I think this is a socioeconomic issue and not racism. Most illegal immigrants are underprivileged Mexicans and they came here because they don’t have access to good job and or education at home. Naturally these illegal immigrants gravitate toward more affordable areas joining other poor and less educated Americans. The best predictor of educational success of a student is his or her parent’s educational attainment. So it is not surprisingly that schools in these poorer areas fail to meet the minimum standard that many parents want.

If I have children I want them to go to the best schools I can afford. Right now these better equipped schools with good test scores happen to be in Poway or Carmel Valley areas and not in Chula Vista.

Any comment on the listing price of $579K?

[jimmyle]

I think this is a socioeconomic issue and not racism. Most illegal immigrants are underprivileged Mexicans and they came here because they don’t have access to good job and or education at home. Naturally these illegal immigrants gravitate toward more affordable areas joining other poor and less educated Americans. The best predictor of educational success of a student is his or her parent’s educational attainment. So it is not surprisingly that schools in these poorer areas fail to meet the minimum standard that many parents want.

If I have children I want them to go to the best schools I can afford. Right now these better equipped schools with good test scores happen to be in Poway or Carmel Valley areas and not in Chula Vista.

Any comment on the listing price of $579K?

[jimmyle]

I think this is a socioeconomic issue and not racism. Most illegal immigrants are underprivileged Mexicans and they came here because they don’t have access to good job and or education at home. Naturally these illegal immigrants gravitate toward more affordable areas joining other poor and less educated Americans. The best predictor of educational success of a student is his or her parent’s educational attainment. So it is not surprisingly that schools in these poorer areas fail to meet the minimum standard that many parents want.

If I have children I want them to go to the best schools I can afford. Right now these better equipped schools with good test scores happen to be in Poway or Carmel Valley areas and not in Chula Vista.

Any comment on the listing price of $579K?

[Anonymous]

I can’t think of any other country in the world with “Open” borders, so why should we? Many countries are far stricter than the US (see Canada, Australia for example). I guess they are all just a bunch of racists up there in Canada since they won’t let us Americans move there.

[Anonymous]

I can’t think of any other country in the world with “Open” borders, so why should we? Many countries are far stricter than the US (see Canada, Australia for example). I guess they are all just a bunch of racists up there in Canada since they won’t let us Americans move there.

[Anonymous]

I can’t think of any other country in the world with “Open” borders, so why should we? Many countries are far stricter than the US (see Canada, Australia for example). I guess they are all just a bunch of racists up there in Canada since they won’t let us Americans move there.

[Anonymous]

I can’t think of any other country in the world with “Open” borders, so why should we? Many countries are far stricter than the US (see Canada, Australia for example). I guess they are all just a bunch of racists up there in Canada since they won’t let us Americans move there.

[patientlywaiting]

I proudly support open immigration for different reasons. Of course, I keep quiet about it most of the time because I don’t want my house fire bombed.

*
For those who don’t know, Milton Friedman, the architect of Ronald Reagan’s economic revival/deregulations was a strong proponent of open borders. He kept quiet for the sake of expediency. For open immigration to be effective, you cannot have a welfare state, hence Reagan’s main goal was to dismantle the great society.

The Republicans business “elite” (not saying that I’m one) tend to support very liberal immigration policies, especially for college educated workers.

The “low-class” red voters should really spend some time reading and educating themselves a little more.

[patientlywaiting]

I proudly support open immigration for different reasons. Of course, I keep quiet about it most of the time because I don’t want my house fire bombed.

*
For those who don’t know, Milton Friedman, the architect of Ronald Reagan’s economic revival/deregulations was a strong proponent of open borders. He kept quiet for the sake of expediency. For open immigration to be effective, you cannot have a welfare state, hence Reagan’s main goal was to dismantle the great society.

The Republicans business “elite” (not saying that I’m one) tend to support very liberal immigration policies, especially for college educated workers.

The “low-class” red voters should really spend some time reading and educating themselves a little more.

[patientlywaiting]

I proudly support open immigration for different reasons. Of course, I keep quiet about it most of the time because I don’t want my house fire bombed.

*
For those who don’t know, Milton Friedman, the architect of Ronald Reagan’s economic revival/deregulations was a strong proponent of open borders. He kept quiet for the sake of expediency. For open immigration to be effective, you cannot have a welfare state, hence Reagan’s main goal was to dismantle the great society.

The Republicans business “elite” (not saying that I’m one) tend to support very liberal immigration policies, especially for college educated workers.

The “low-class” red voters should really spend some time reading and educating themselves a little more.

[patientlywaiting]

I proudly support open immigration for different reasons. Of course, I keep quiet about it most of the time because I don’t want my house fire bombed.

*
For those who don’t know, Milton Friedman, the architect of Ronald Reagan’s economic revival/deregulations was a strong proponent of open borders. He kept quiet for the sake of expediency. For open immigration to be effective, you cannot have a welfare state, hence Reagan’s main goal was to dismantle the great society.

The Republicans business “elite” (not saying that I’m one) tend to support very liberal immigration policies, especially for college educated workers.

The “low-class” red voters should really spend some time reading and educating themselves a little more.

[SD Realtor]

Wowsers… interesting turn on this post. Personally I have mixed feelings. I do agree with what Rus has said in a very strong manner as I am one of those who usually keep quiet when it comes to speaking out… I went to Marina Jr High and Venice High up in many years ago in which whites were a definite minority and never had any problems. Most all of my friends were not white nor was my first wife. I listened to a conversation between my sister in law and her frined just this evening where her friend was complaining about her housekeepers daughter who is going to Preuss (did I spell that right? in la jolla) and the housekeeper is illegal. So here is this lady complaining about an illegal that she pays who is sending her kid to a La Jolla school…

Aye caramba… I know the lady as well (who was complaining) and she is not racist at all… just well… just not sure what she is… My sister in law said well don’t you think it is better that this child gets a good education and becomes a strong contributing member to our society?

Anyways it is an interesting conversation… I am not sure where I stand… my wife told me about many a hospital she used to work at in Texas near the borders that were literally overrun with illegal aliens simply to get health care on our dime…

Guess I have said alot of nothing… just filling my addiction to posting.

SD Realtor

[SD Realtor]

Wowsers… interesting turn on this post. Personally I have mixed feelings. I do agree with what Rus has said in a very strong manner as I am one of those who usually keep quiet when it comes to speaking out… I went to Marina Jr High and Venice High up in many years ago in which whites were a definite minority and never had any problems. Most all of my friends were not white nor was my first wife. I listened to a conversation between my sister in law and her frined just this evening where her friend was complaining about her housekeepers daughter who is going to Preuss (did I spell that right? in la jolla) and the housekeeper is illegal. So here is this lady complaining about an illegal that she pays who is sending her kid to a La Jolla school…

Aye caramba… I know the lady as well (who was complaining) and she is not racist at all… just well… just not sure what she is… My sister in law said well don’t you think it is better that this child gets a good education and becomes a strong contributing member to our society?

Anyways it is an interesting conversation… I am not sure where I stand… my wife told me about many a hospital she used to work at in Texas near the borders that were literally overrun with illegal aliens simply to get health care on our dime…

Guess I have said alot of nothing… just filling my addiction to posting.

SD Realtor

[SD Realtor]

Wowsers… interesting turn on this post. Personally I have mixed feelings. I do agree with what Rus has said in a very strong manner as I am one of those who usually keep quiet when it comes to speaking out… I went to Marina Jr High and Venice High up in many years ago in which whites were a definite minority and never had any problems. Most all of my friends were not white nor was my first wife. I listened to a conversation between my sister in law and her frined just this evening where her friend was complaining about her housekeepers daughter who is going to Preuss (did I spell that right? in la jolla) and the housekeeper is illegal. So here is this lady complaining about an illegal that she pays who is sending her kid to a La Jolla school…

Aye caramba… I know the lady as well (who was complaining) and she is not racist at all… just well… just not sure what she is… My sister in law said well don’t you think it is better that this child gets a good education and becomes a strong contributing member to our society?

Anyways it is an interesting conversation… I am not sure where I stand… my wife told me about many a hospital she used to work at in Texas near the borders that were literally overrun with illegal aliens simply to get health care on our dime…

Guess I have said alot of nothing… just filling my addiction to posting.

SD Realtor

[SD Realtor]

Wowsers… interesting turn on this post. Personally I have mixed feelings. I do agree with what Rus has said in a very strong manner as I am one of those who usually keep quiet when it comes to speaking out… I went to Marina Jr High and Venice High up in many years ago in which whites were a definite minority and never had any problems. Most all of my friends were not white nor was my first wife. I listened to a conversation between my sister in law and her frined just this evening where her friend was complaining about her housekeepers daughter who is going to Preuss (did I spell that right? in la jolla) and the housekeeper is illegal. So here is this lady complaining about an illegal that she pays who is sending her kid to a La Jolla school…

Aye caramba… I know the lady as well (who was complaining) and she is not racist at all… just well… just not sure what she is… My sister in law said well don’t you think it is better that this child gets a good education and becomes a strong contributing member to our society?

Anyways it is an interesting conversation… I am not sure where I stand… my wife told me about many a hospital she used to work at in Texas near the borders that were literally overrun with illegal aliens simply to get health care on our dime…

Guess I have said alot of nothing… just filling my addiction to posting.

SD Realtor

[SD Realtor]

Wowsers… interesting turn on this post. Personally I have mixed feelings. I do agree with what Rus has said in a very strong manner as I am one of those who usually keep quiet when it comes to speaking out… I went to Marina Jr High and Venice High up in many years ago in which whites were a definite minority and never had any problems. Most all of my friends were not white nor was my first wife. I listened to a conversation between my sister in law and her frined just this evening where her friend was complaining about her housekeepers daughter who is going to Preuss (did I spell that right? in la jolla) and the housekeeper is illegal. So here is this lady complaining about an illegal that she pays who is sending her kid to a La Jolla school…

Aye caramba… I know the lady as well (who was complaining) and she is not racist at all… just well… just not sure what she is… My sister in law said well don’t you think it is better that this child gets a good education and becomes a strong contributing member to our society?

Anyways it is an interesting conversation… I am not sure where I stand… my wife told me about many a hospital she used to work at in Texas near the borders that were literally overrun with illegal aliens simply to get health care on our dime…

Guess I have said alot of nothing… just filling my addiction to posting.

SD Realtor

[NotCranky]

I didn’t say I held the beliefs in question. I am surprised that you don’t know anyone who did. I believe that there are are more “elites” who believe according to the view I outlined than there are people from the lower classes,not sure.

FTR: I not sure there are so many racists here. I think there are many people who don’t speak up against the occasional fit of racism for various reasons. I view protectionism differently from racism, although the two overlap quite easily and are often married in one line of primal defense of an entitlement posture.

O.K. Amigo?

[NotCranky]

I didn’t say I held the beliefs in question. I am surprised that you don’t know anyone who did. I believe that there are are more “elites” who believe according to the view I outlined than there are people from the lower classes,not sure.

FTR: I not sure there are so many racists here. I think there are many people who don’t speak up against the occasional fit of racism for various reasons. I view protectionism differently from racism, although the two overlap quite easily and are often married in one line of primal defense of an entitlement posture.

O.K. Amigo?

[NotCranky]

I didn’t say I held the beliefs in question. I am surprised that you don’t know anyone who did. I believe that there are are more “elites” who believe according to the view I outlined than there are people from the lower classes,not sure.

FTR: I not sure there are so many racists here. I think there are many people who don’t speak up against the occasional fit of racism for various reasons. I view protectionism differently from racism, although the two overlap quite easily and are often married in one line of primal defense of an entitlement posture.

O.K. Amigo?

[NotCranky]

I didn’t say I held the beliefs in question. I am surprised that you don’t know anyone who did. I believe that there are are more “elites” who believe according to the view I outlined than there are people from the lower classes,not sure.

FTR: I not sure there are so many racists here. I think there are many people who don’t speak up against the occasional fit of racism for various reasons. I view protectionism differently from racism, although the two overlap quite easily and are often married in one line of primal defense of an entitlement posture.

O.K. Amigo?

[Anonymous]

Okay rustico, so since you and your amigos are against classifying citizens, then you would be in favor of open borders and anyone from anywhere in the world can come here, live and work legally no questions asked? In other words, you are in favor of open immigration? If so, that is your perogative but you are definitely in the minority.

[Anonymous]

Okay rustico, so since you and your amigos are against classifying citizens, then you would be in favor of open borders and anyone from anywhere in the world can come here, live and work legally no questions asked? In other words, you are in favor of open immigration? If so, that is your perogative but you are definitely in the minority.

[Anonymous]

Okay rustico, so since you and your amigos are against classifying citizens, then you would be in favor of open borders and anyone from anywhere in the world can come here, live and work legally no questions asked? In other words, you are in favor of open immigration? If so, that is your perogative but you are definitely in the minority.

[Anonymous]

Okay rustico, so since you and your amigos are against classifying citizens, then you would be in favor of open borders and anyone from anywhere in the world can come here, live and work legally no questions asked? In other words, you are in favor of open immigration? If so, that is your perogative but you are definitely in the minority.

[NotCranky]

“I don’t know anyone who is not concerned about the illegals all over the place and I’m not even a Republican.”

Really deadzone, you don’t know anyone who could care less or who perhaps believes that classifying people as “illegal” is more primitive and immoral than being “illegal” is?
That is amazing. I know many and I’m not even a Democrat.

Maybe they just don’t talk to you about it for some reason?

[NotCranky]

“I don’t know anyone who is not concerned about the illegals all over the place and I’m not even a Republican.”

Really deadzone, you don’t know anyone who could care less or who perhaps believes that classifying people as “illegal” is more primitive and immoral than being “illegal” is?
That is amazing. I know many and I’m not even a Democrat.

Maybe they just don’t talk to you about it for some reason?

[NotCranky]

“I don’t know anyone who is not concerned about the illegals all over the place and I’m not even a Republican.”

Really deadzone, you don’t know anyone who could care less or who perhaps believes that classifying people as “illegal” is more primitive and immoral than being “illegal” is?
That is amazing. I know many and I’m not even a Democrat.

Maybe they just don’t talk to you about it for some reason?

[NotCranky]

“I don’t know anyone who is not concerned about the illegals all over the place and I’m not even a Republican.”

Really deadzone, you don’t know anyone who could care less or who perhaps believes that classifying people as “illegal” is more primitive and immoral than being “illegal” is?
That is amazing. I know many and I’m not even a Democrat.

Maybe they just don’t talk to you about it for some reason?

[RDeNiro]

Rubbing elbows with mexican kids isn’t that bad… I know a lot of Mexican kids. They are really nice, they have good values. Hey! your kid might even learn a little spanish.

[RDeNiro]

Rubbing elbows with mexican kids isn’t that bad… I know a lot of Mexican kids. They are really nice, they have good values. Hey! your kid might even learn a little spanish.

[RDeNiro]

Rubbing elbows with mexican kids isn’t that bad… I know a lot of Mexican kids. They are really nice, they have good values. Hey! your kid might even learn a little spanish.

[RDeNiro]

Rubbing elbows with mexican kids isn’t that bad… I know a lot of Mexican kids. They are really nice, they have good values. Hey! your kid might even learn a little spanish.

[Anonymous]

Enough dropping the race card. It’s no secret that Chulajuana is full if illegal alians, of course so is all fo SD and the entire country for that matter. I don’t know anyone who is not concerned about the illegals all over the place and I’m not even a Republican. I guess we’re all racists.

[Anonymous]

Enough dropping the race card. It’s no secret that Chulajuana is full if illegal alians, of course so is all fo SD and the entire country for that matter. I don’t know anyone who is not concerned about the illegals all over the place and I’m not even a Republican. I guess we’re all racists.

[Anonymous]

Enough dropping the race card. It’s no secret that Chulajuana is full if illegal alians, of course so is all fo SD and the entire country for that matter. I don’t know anyone who is not concerned about the illegals all over the place and I’m not even a Republican. I guess we’re all racists.

[Anonymous]

Enough dropping the race card. It’s no secret that Chulajuana is full if illegal alians, of course so is all fo SD and the entire country for that matter. I don’t know anyone who is not concerned about the illegals all over the place and I’m not even a Republican. I guess we’re all racists.

[RDeNiro]

It’s just funny that he asserts he is not a racist. I wonder what esmith considers a racist… I don’t think he realizes all of the assumptions in the comment he posted.

[PorkmanDelardo]

Need I say more? They will do anything to get a rise out of you. I learned along time ago to get past the rhetoric and focus on the purpose of the blog. Don’t play into it. Pretty soon the rest will crawl from their holes to chime in , wait and see. Porkman

[Bloat]

Ohhh Nooo, Porkman again,

The words “illegal alien” have caused him to stand up and shout “racist” again. We will get to hear the kook a few more times finished with “I drive a hummer and a prius and also a hummer”. His type hides his racist views by shouting down others.

Just thought I’d “crawl out and chime in” as he has.

[Bloat]

Ohhh Nooo, Porkman again,

The words “illegal alien” have caused him to stand up and shout “racist” again. We will get to hear the kook a few more times finished with “I drive a hummer and a prius and also a hummer”. His type hides his racist views by shouting down others.

Just thought I’d “crawl out and chime in” as he has.

[Bloat]

Ohhh Nooo, Porkman again,

The words “illegal alien” have caused him to stand up and shout “racist” again. We will get to hear the kook a few more times finished with “I drive a hummer and a prius and also a hummer”. His type hides his racist views by shouting down others.

Just thought I’d “crawl out and chime in” as he has.

[Bloat]

Ohhh Nooo, Porkman again,

The words “illegal alien” have caused him to stand up and shout “racist” again. We will get to hear the kook a few more times finished with “I drive a hummer and a prius and also a hummer”. His type hides his racist views by shouting down others.

Just thought I’d “crawl out and chime in” as he has.

[Bloat]

Ohhh Nooo, Porkman again,

The words “illegal alien” have caused him to stand up and shout “racist” again. We will get to hear the kook a few more times finished with “I drive a hummer and a prius and also a hummer”. His type hides his racist views by shouting down others.

Just thought I’d “crawl out and chime in” as he has.

[PorkmanDelardo]

Need I say more? They will do anything to get a rise out of you. I learned along time ago to get past the rhetoric and focus on the purpose of the blog. Don’t play into it. Pretty soon the rest will crawl from their holes to chime in , wait and see. Porkman

[PorkmanDelardo]

Need I say more? They will do anything to get a rise out of you. I learned along time ago to get past the rhetoric and focus on the purpose of the blog. Don’t play into it. Pretty soon the rest will crawl from their holes to chime in , wait and see. Porkman

[PorkmanDelardo]

Need I say more? They will do anything to get a rise out of you. I learned along time ago to get past the rhetoric and focus on the purpose of the blog. Don’t play into it. Pretty soon the rest will crawl from their holes to chime in , wait and see. Porkman

[PorkmanDelardo]

Need I say more? They will do anything to get a rise out of you. I learned along time ago to get past the rhetoric and focus on the purpose of the blog. Don’t play into it. Pretty soon the rest will crawl from their holes to chime in , wait and see. Porkman

[RDeNiro]

It’s just funny that he asserts he is not a racist. I wonder what esmith considers a racist… I don’t think he realizes all of the assumptions in the comment he posted.

[RDeNiro]

It’s just funny that he asserts he is not a racist. I wonder what esmith considers a racist… I don’t think he realizes all of the assumptions in the comment he posted.

[RDeNiro]

It’s just funny that he asserts he is not a racist. I wonder what esmith considers a racist… I don’t think he realizes all of the assumptions in the comment he posted.

[RDeNiro]

It’s just funny that he asserts he is not a racist. I wonder what esmith considers a racist… I don’t think he realizes all of the assumptions in the comment he posted.

[PorkmanDelardo]

De Niro, you can’t win any arguements here. The racial overtones run rampant and yes many other people on this blog are of the same ilk. As soon as you throw it back in their face, first, they get all defensive, then they team up and go on the offensive. Same old same old. Try to get past the racist morons and read the site for what it is intended. That’s what I do. There are many good folks that post on the site with some great input, then you get the racists who try to substanciate their racist comments with a bunch of double -talk. No sense arguing with a fool. Porkman

[PorkmanDelardo]

De Niro, you can’t win any arguements here. The racial overtones run rampant and yes many other people on this blog are of the same ilk. As soon as you throw it back in their face, first, they get all defensive, then they team up and go on the offensive. Same old same old. Try to get past the racist morons and read the site for what it is intended. That’s what I do. There are many good folks that post on the site with some great input, then you get the racists who try to substanciate their racist comments with a bunch of double -talk. No sense arguing with a fool. Porkman

[PorkmanDelardo]

De Niro, you can’t win any arguements here. The racial overtones run rampant and yes many other people on this blog are of the same ilk. As soon as you throw it back in their face, first, they get all defensive, then they team up and go on the offensive. Same old same old. Try to get past the racist morons and read the site for what it is intended. That’s what I do. There are many good folks that post on the site with some great input, then you get the racists who try to substanciate their racist comments with a bunch of double -talk. No sense arguing with a fool. Porkman

[PorkmanDelardo]

De Niro, you can’t win any arguements here. The racial overtones run rampant and yes many other people on this blog are of the same ilk. As soon as you throw it back in their face, first, they get all defensive, then they team up and go on the offensive. Same old same old. Try to get past the racist morons and read the site for what it is intended. That’s what I do. There are many good folks that post on the site with some great input, then you get the racists who try to substanciate their racist comments with a bunch of double -talk. No sense arguing with a fool. Porkman

[GH]

Chula Vista has some nice areas along the 125, but way too many houses built and sold during the bubble.

[ocrenter]

a lot of homes in 91914 and 91915 are all 50% off peak. that seem like the norm there.

maybe another 10% down? to get to 60% off peak. but how long is the wait for that extra 10% off? especially with interest rate already so low.

certainly there’s enough inventory there that one should not rush into things and take all the time one needs. but if someone finds that perfect house that’s already 50% off peak, it is going to be hard to hold off for that potential additional 10%.

[sdrealtor]

I love it! OCRenter is the new South Bay housing bull;)

[sdrealtor]

I love it! OCRenter is the new South Bay housing bull;)

[sdrealtor]

I love it! OCRenter is the new South Bay housing bull;)

[sdrealtor]

I love it! OCRenter is the new South Bay housing bull;)

[sdrealtor]

I love it! OCRenter is the new South Bay housing bull;)

[ocrenter]

a lot of homes in 91914 and 91915 are all 50% off peak. that seem like the norm there.

maybe another 10% down? to get to 60% off peak. but how long is the wait for that extra 10% off? especially with interest rate already so low.

certainly there’s enough inventory there that one should not rush into things and take all the time one needs. but if someone finds that perfect house that’s already 50% off peak, it is going to be hard to hold off for that potential additional 10%.

[ocrenter]

a lot of homes in 91914 and 91915 are all 50% off peak. that seem like the norm there.

maybe another 10% down? to get to 60% off peak. but how long is the wait for that extra 10% off? especially with interest rate already so low.

certainly there’s enough inventory there that one should not rush into things and take all the time one needs. but if someone finds that perfect house that’s already 50% off peak, it is going to be hard to hold off for that potential additional 10%.

[ocrenter]

a lot of homes in 91914 and 91915 are all 50% off peak. that seem like the norm there.

maybe another 10% down? to get to 60% off peak. but how long is the wait for that extra 10% off? especially with interest rate already so low.

certainly there’s enough inventory there that one should not rush into things and take all the time one needs. but if someone finds that perfect house that’s already 50% off peak, it is going to be hard to hold off for that potential additional 10%.

[ocrenter]

a lot of homes in 91914 and 91915 are all 50% off peak. that seem like the norm there.

maybe another 10% down? to get to 60% off peak. but how long is the wait for that extra 10% off? especially with interest rate already so low.

certainly there’s enough inventory there that one should not rush into things and take all the time one needs. but if someone finds that perfect house that’s already 50% off peak, it is going to be hard to hold off for that potential additional 10%.

[GH]

Chula Vista has some nice areas along the 125, but way too many houses built and sold during the bubble.

[GH]

Chula Vista has some nice areas along the 125, but way too many houses built and sold during the bubble.

[GH]

Chula Vista has some nice areas along the 125, but way too many houses built and sold during the bubble.

[GH]

Chula Vista has some nice areas along the 125, but way too many houses built and sold during the bubble.

[RDeNiro]

“Would you rather have your children rub elbows with illegal aliens and kids from Chula Vista ghettos, or send them to a school with good demographic in Poway school district?”

Wow!! and you are not a racist you say?? I wonder how you talk when you are with your friends and family. Damn! The sad part is, many of the people in this blog probably agree with you.

[RDeNiro]

“Would you rather have your children rub elbows with illegal aliens and kids from Chula Vista ghettos, or send them to a school with good demographic in Poway school district?”

Wow!! and you are not a racist you say?? I wonder how you talk when you are with your friends and family. Damn! The sad part is, many of the people in this blog probably agree with you.

[RDeNiro]

“Would you rather have your children rub elbows with illegal aliens and kids from Chula Vista ghettos, or send them to a school with good demographic in Poway school district?”

Wow!! and you are not a racist you say?? I wonder how you talk when you are with your friends and family. Damn! The sad part is, many of the people in this blog probably agree with you.

[RDeNiro]

“Would you rather have your children rub elbows with illegal aliens and kids from Chula Vista ghettos, or send them to a school with good demographic in Poway school district?”

Wow!! and you are not a racist you say?? I wonder how you talk when you are with your friends and family. Damn! The sad part is, many of the people in this blog probably agree with you.

[Anonymous]

Submitted by esmith on December 6, 2007 – 1:57pm.

Even the climate is better in 4S Ranch. Especially if you have kids. Would you rather have your children rub elbows with illegal aliens and kids from Chula Vista ghettos, or send them to a school with good demographic in Poway school district?

I just read this. This statement and way of thinking is unacceptable.

It’s racist and I take serious offense. These kids are human beings, they are no different than your own kids with the exception of being less fortunate.

[Anonymous]

Okay Marion, then why don’t you send your kids to school in Chula Vista? Additionally, who are you to judge whether a way of thinking is unnacceptable?

Any parent who wants their kids to be successful wants them to go to the best schools. Poway is considered the best schools in the area. What’s your beef?

Again, elitism, not racism. Enough with the race card in regards every discussion.

[Anonymous]

Okay Marion, then why don’t you send your kids to school in Chula Vista? Additionally, who are you to judge whether a way of thinking is unnacceptable?

Any parent who wants their kids to be successful wants them to go to the best schools. Poway is considered the best schools in the area. What’s your beef?

Again, elitism, not racism. Enough with the race card in regards every discussion.

[Anonymous]

Okay Marion, then why don’t you send your kids to school in Chula Vista? Additionally, who are you to judge whether a way of thinking is unnacceptable?

Any parent who wants their kids to be successful wants them to go to the best schools. Poway is considered the best schools in the area. What’s your beef?

Again, elitism, not racism. Enough with the race card in regards every discussion.

[Anonymous]

Okay Marion, then why don’t you send your kids to school in Chula Vista? Additionally, who are you to judge whether a way of thinking is unnacceptable?

Any parent who wants their kids to be successful wants them to go to the best schools. Poway is considered the best schools in the area. What’s your beef?

Again, elitism, not racism. Enough with the race card in regards every discussion.

[Anonymous]

Okay Marion, then why don’t you send your kids to school in Chula Vista? Additionally, who are you to judge whether a way of thinking is unnacceptable?

Any parent who wants their kids to be successful wants them to go to the best schools. Poway is considered the best schools in the area. What’s your beef?

Again, elitism, not racism. Enough with the race card in regards every discussion.

[Bloat]

Why is it that reading marion’s posts make me search for a rope and a high beam?

[Bloat]

Why is it that reading marion’s posts make me search for a rope and a high beam?

[Bloat]

Why is it that reading marion’s posts make me search for a rope and a high beam?

[Bloat]

Why is it that reading marion’s posts make me search for a rope and a high beam?

[Bloat]

Why is it that reading marion’s posts make me search for a rope and a high beam?

[Eugene]

I wonder what esmith considers a racist… I don’t think he realizes all of the assumptions in the comment he posted.

It’s racist and I take serious offense. These kids are human beings, they are no different than your own kids with the exception of being less fortunate.

OMG, so much flame out of my single statement.

Marion, by the time kids get to the middle school, they are sufficiently different. They are influenced by their upbringing and some kinds of influence are better than others. As much as I respect illegal aliens’ willingness to work dead-end jobs for less than minimum wage to support their families, I don’t see them as good influence on their children.

I would be as concerned with my kids going to a school that’ s 50% chinese. Last I checked, there weren’t any chinese ghettos in CA. But I wouldn’t want my kids to grow up in Chula Vista any more than I’d want my kids to grow up among all-white trailer trash in Kearny Mesa.

Hope it helps.

[Anonymous]

You know the people that are calling people racist are probably not understanding. What makes a community great is diversity. Without diversity a neighborhood will go down hill real quick. Chula Vista as anyone on here can agree is probably about somewhere in the range of 60% to 70% mexican. With numbers like that prices of homes are going to go down but not because they are Mexican but because they were put in homes that they definitley could not afford and now everyone is feeling the impact.

This a story someone told me about how people from Tijuana were buying homes in Chula Vista then taking equity out and but another and do this over and over again. Then they would take a home equity line of credit on all the homes they owned for say 2 million then say screw paying for the homes and live in Tijuana like Kings. This kinda pissed me off. I have been watching my neighbors very affluent people of all races moving out and people from Campo and Paradise Hills moving in and with them they bring a piece of the Ghetto to my neighborhood. I have to get home early because there is like 10 people living in a 5 Bedroom home and if I do not get home early I can’t park in the street in front of my home. I think people are just really frustrated with everything that is going on and need to just relax. The people we should be blaming is the Mortgage Lenders who screwed us all.

[scaredyclassic]

i think the bototm line is nobody wants their kids hanging out with poor people. most people want the richer people –of any color. But not poor people. My wife disagrees. She says there can be all kinds of problems regardless of income level. Yeah, well, play the odds. Percentage-wife, things are going to be a bit crazier andout of control int he poorer area. Things are likely to run smoother where the money is. I’ve always hated living in poorer areas.

Drink Heavily.

[scaredyclassic]

i think the bototm line is nobody wants their kids hanging out with poor people. most people want the richer people –of any color. But not poor people. My wife disagrees. She says there can be all kinds of problems regardless of income level. Yeah, well, play the odds. Percentage-wife, things are going to be a bit crazier andout of control int he poorer area. Things are likely to run smoother where the money is. I’ve always hated living in poorer areas.

Drink Heavily.

[scaredyclassic]

i think the bototm line is nobody wants their kids hanging out with poor people. most people want the richer people –of any color. But not poor people. My wife disagrees. She says there can be all kinds of problems regardless of income level. Yeah, well, play the odds. Percentage-wife, things are going to be a bit crazier andout of control int he poorer area. Things are likely to run smoother where the money is. I’ve always hated living in poorer areas.

Drink Heavily.

[scaredyclassic]

i think the bototm line is nobody wants their kids hanging out with poor people. most people want the richer people –of any color. But not poor people. My wife disagrees. She says there can be all kinds of problems regardless of income level. Yeah, well, play the odds. Percentage-wife, things are going to be a bit crazier andout of control int he poorer area. Things are likely to run smoother where the money is. I’ve always hated living in poorer areas.

Drink Heavily.

[scaredyclassic]

i think the bototm line is nobody wants their kids hanging out with poor people. most people want the richer people –of any color. But not poor people. My wife disagrees. She says there can be all kinds of problems regardless of income level. Yeah, well, play the odds. Percentage-wife, things are going to be a bit crazier andout of control int he poorer area. Things are likely to run smoother where the money is. I’ve always hated living in poorer areas.

Drink Heavily.

[Borat]

Why is it racism when someone says they don’t want people coming illegally from Mexico? Mexico has a very diverse racial makeup. I just checked over at wikipedia, and caucasians are actually 30-35% of the population. Even most mestizos are predominantly european in origin (same source). Mexico’s Amerindian population is only about 12%. So this whole “racism” thing doesn’t make any sense at all. In fact it’s weird that they have radio stations and civic groups called “La Raza” cause there’s definitely no such thing as a Mexican “race”. They’re a lot like the US, a melting pot of many different peoples. Just the other day a Mexican guy asked me if I had seen his buddies which he referred to as “a bunch of Mexicans and a caucasian”. The dude was as caucasian as I am! And so were his buddies. They had dark hair and eyes but they could have been from any number of European countries.

Also, is it racist that all of the people you see on Univision and Telemundo are probably 99% Spanish Europeans?

Okay, that’s enough on that topic. It’s just weird to me that’s all.

[Anonymous]

See and that is another weird thing is the people that consider themselves European Spanish are actually very racist about the people who are actually Mexican. I hope the housing market turns around in Chula Vista or it will become another Nasty City I mean National City because anybody will be able to afford to live here.

By the way what is that house going for now on Silver Hawk?

Anybody know. That person must be crying really bad. Over 300K in the hole =(

[Anonymous]

See and that is another weird thing is the people that consider themselves European Spanish are actually very racist about the people who are actually Mexican. I hope the housing market turns around in Chula Vista or it will become another Nasty City I mean National City because anybody will be able to afford to live here.

By the way what is that house going for now on Silver Hawk?

Anybody know. That person must be crying really bad. Over 300K in the hole =(

[Anonymous]

See and that is another weird thing is the people that consider themselves European Spanish are actually very racist about the people who are actually Mexican. I hope the housing market turns around in Chula Vista or it will become another Nasty City I mean National City because anybody will be able to afford to live here.

By the way what is that house going for now on Silver Hawk?

Anybody know. That person must be crying really bad. Over 300K in the hole =(

[Anonymous]

See and that is another weird thing is the people that consider themselves European Spanish are actually very racist about the people who are actually Mexican. I hope the housing market turns around in Chula Vista or it will become another Nasty City I mean National City because anybody will be able to afford to live here.

By the way what is that house going for now on Silver Hawk?

Anybody know. That person must be crying really bad. Over 300K in the hole =(

[Anonymous]

See and that is another weird thing is the people that consider themselves European Spanish are actually very racist about the people who are actually Mexican. I hope the housing market turns around in Chula Vista or it will become another Nasty City I mean National City because anybody will be able to afford to live here.

By the way what is that house going for now on Silver Hawk?

Anybody know. That person must be crying really bad. Over 300K in the hole =(

[Borat]

Why is it racism when someone says they don’t want people coming illegally from Mexico? Mexico has a very diverse racial makeup. I just checked over at wikipedia, and caucasians are actually 30-35% of the population. Even most mestizos are predominantly european in origin (same source). Mexico’s Amerindian population is only about 12%. So this whole “racism” thing doesn’t make any sense at all. In fact it’s weird that they have radio stations and civic groups called “La Raza” cause there’s definitely no such thing as a Mexican “race”. They’re a lot like the US, a melting pot of many different peoples. Just the other day a Mexican guy asked me if I had seen his buddies which he referred to as “a bunch of Mexicans and a caucasian”. The dude was as caucasian as I am! And so were his buddies. They had dark hair and eyes but they could have been from any number of European countries.

Also, is it racist that all of the people you see on Univision and Telemundo are probably 99% Spanish Europeans?

Okay, that’s enough on that topic. It’s just weird to me that’s all.

[Borat]

Why is it racism when someone says they don’t want people coming illegally from Mexico? Mexico has a very diverse racial makeup. I just checked over at wikipedia, and caucasians are actually 30-35% of the population. Even most mestizos are predominantly european in origin (same source). Mexico’s Amerindian population is only about 12%. So this whole “racism” thing doesn’t make any sense at all. In fact it’s weird that they have radio stations and civic groups called “La Raza” cause there’s definitely no such thing as a Mexican “race”. They’re a lot like the US, a melting pot of many different peoples. Just the other day a Mexican guy asked me if I had seen his buddies which he referred to as “a bunch of Mexicans and a caucasian”. The dude was as caucasian as I am! And so were his buddies. They had dark hair and eyes but they could have been from any number of European countries.

Also, is it racist that all of the people you see on Univision and Telemundo are probably 99% Spanish Europeans?

Okay, that’s enough on that topic. It’s just weird to me that’s all.

[Borat]

Why is it racism when someone says they don’t want people coming illegally from Mexico? Mexico has a very diverse racial makeup. I just checked over at wikipedia, and caucasians are actually 30-35% of the population. Even most mestizos are predominantly european in origin (same source). Mexico’s Amerindian population is only about 12%. So this whole “racism” thing doesn’t make any sense at all. In fact it’s weird that they have radio stations and civic groups called “La Raza” cause there’s definitely no such thing as a Mexican “race”. They’re a lot like the US, a melting pot of many different peoples. Just the other day a Mexican guy asked me if I had seen his buddies which he referred to as “a bunch of Mexicans and a caucasian”. The dude was as caucasian as I am! And so were his buddies. They had dark hair and eyes but they could have been from any number of European countries.

Also, is it racist that all of the people you see on Univision and Telemundo are probably 99% Spanish Europeans?

Okay, that’s enough on that topic. It’s just weird to me that’s all.

[Borat]

Why is it racism when someone says they don’t want people coming illegally from Mexico? Mexico has a very diverse racial makeup. I just checked over at wikipedia, and caucasians are actually 30-35% of the population. Even most mestizos are predominantly european in origin (same source). Mexico’s Amerindian population is only about 12%. So this whole “racism” thing doesn’t make any sense at all. In fact it’s weird that they have radio stations and civic groups called “La Raza” cause there’s definitely no such thing as a Mexican “race”. They’re a lot like the US, a melting pot of many different peoples. Just the other day a Mexican guy asked me if I had seen his buddies which he referred to as “a bunch of Mexicans and a caucasian”. The dude was as caucasian as I am! And so were his buddies. They had dark hair and eyes but they could have been from any number of European countries.

Also, is it racist that all of the people you see on Univision and Telemundo are probably 99% Spanish Europeans?

Okay, that’s enough on that topic. It’s just weird to me that’s all.

[Anonymous]

You know the people that are calling people racist are probably not understanding. What makes a community great is diversity. Without diversity a neighborhood will go down hill real quick. Chula Vista as anyone on here can agree is probably about somewhere in the range of 60% to 70% mexican. With numbers like that prices of homes are going to go down but not because they are Mexican but because they were put in homes that they definitley could not afford and now everyone is feeling the impact.

This a story someone told me about how people from Tijuana were buying homes in Chula Vista then taking equity out and but another and do this over and over again. Then they would take a home equity line of credit on all the homes they owned for say 2 million then say screw paying for the homes and live in Tijuana like Kings. This kinda pissed me off. I have been watching my neighbors very affluent people of all races moving out and people from Campo and Paradise Hills moving in and with them they bring a piece of the Ghetto to my neighborhood. I have to get home early because there is like 10 people living in a 5 Bedroom home and if I do not get home early I can’t park in the street in front of my home. I think people are just really frustrated with everything that is going on and need to just relax. The people we should be blaming is the Mortgage Lenders who screwed us all.

[Anonymous]

You know the people that are calling people racist are probably not understanding. What makes a community great is diversity. Without diversity a neighborhood will go down hill real quick. Chula Vista as anyone on here can agree is probably about somewhere in the range of 60% to 70% mexican. With numbers like that prices of homes are going to go down but not because they are Mexican but because they were put in homes that they definitley could not afford and now everyone is feeling the impact.

This a story someone told me about how people from Tijuana were buying homes in Chula Vista then taking equity out and but another and do this over and over again. Then they would take a home equity line of credit on all the homes they owned for say 2 million then say screw paying for the homes and live in Tijuana like Kings. This kinda pissed me off. I have been watching my neighbors very affluent people of all races moving out and people from Campo and Paradise Hills moving in and with them they bring a piece of the Ghetto to my neighborhood. I have to get home early because there is like 10 people living in a 5 Bedroom home and if I do not get home early I can’t park in the street in front of my home. I think people are just really frustrated with everything that is going on and need to just relax. The people we should be blaming is the Mortgage Lenders who screwed us all.

[Anonymous]

You know the people that are calling people racist are probably not understanding. What makes a community great is diversity. Without diversity a neighborhood will go down hill real quick. Chula Vista as anyone on here can agree is probably about somewhere in the range of 60% to 70% mexican. With numbers like that prices of homes are going to go down but not because they are Mexican but because they were put in homes that they definitley could not afford and now everyone is feeling the impact.

This a story someone told me about how people from Tijuana were buying homes in Chula Vista then taking equity out and but another and do this over and over again. Then they would take a home equity line of credit on all the homes they owned for say 2 million then say screw paying for the homes and live in Tijuana like Kings. This kinda pissed me off. I have been watching my neighbors very affluent people of all races moving out and people from Campo and Paradise Hills moving in and with them they bring a piece of the Ghetto to my neighborhood. I have to get home early because there is like 10 people living in a 5 Bedroom home and if I do not get home early I can’t park in the street in front of my home. I think people are just really frustrated with everything that is going on and need to just relax. The people we should be blaming is the Mortgage Lenders who screwed us all.

[Anonymous]

You know the people that are calling people racist are probably not understanding. What makes a community great is diversity. Without diversity a neighborhood will go down hill real quick. Chula Vista as anyone on here can agree is probably about somewhere in the range of 60% to 70% mexican. With numbers like that prices of homes are going to go down but not because they are Mexican but because they were put in homes that they definitley could not afford and now everyone is feeling the impact.

This a story someone told me about how people from Tijuana were buying homes in Chula Vista then taking equity out and but another and do this over and over again. Then they would take a home equity line of credit on all the homes they owned for say 2 million then say screw paying for the homes and live in Tijuana like Kings. This kinda pissed me off. I have been watching my neighbors very affluent people of all races moving out and people from Campo and Paradise Hills moving in and with them they bring a piece of the Ghetto to my neighborhood. I have to get home early because there is like 10 people living in a 5 Bedroom home and if I do not get home early I can’t park in the street in front of my home. I think people are just really frustrated with everything that is going on and need to just relax. The people we should be blaming is the Mortgage Lenders who screwed us all.

[Anonymous]

OMG, so much flame out of my single statement.

Marion, by the time kids get to the middle school, they are sufficiently different. They are influenced by their upbringing and some kinds of influence are better than others. As much as I respect illegal aliens’ willingness to work dead-end jobs for less than minimum wage to support their families, I don’t see them as good influence on their children.

Ok. Esmith, one thing I’ll say in response to what you have posted above is it’s not the kids fault. OK? Mom and Dad may be illegal aliens, but that doesn’t mean the kid is someone that would be a bad influence on your child. The kid cannot help who mom and dad is and deserves a chance to be befriended for who he/she is as a person.

I have nothing against you or anyone wanted the best schools for your kids. I want the same. But, I will say all things being equal, I’m not going to send my kids to schools that have 99% blonde-eyed, blue-eyed kids running around because a culturally diverse environment is best for all kids. You don’t want to raise snobs, or kids who cannot identify with other children of different ethnicities.

But, it sounds like you are saying that you don’t want your kids raised in the slums and you want good schools for them in a safe environment. I understand and agree with that.

[sethdallob]

Back to the price collapse – you’ve got to wonder what the guy across the street (with the same house) is thinking with an asking price of $775k (per Zillow, 1319 Silver Hawk), or the one just down the street (smaller) that’s listed at $750k…ouch.

[sethdallob]

Back to the price collapse – you’ve got to wonder what the guy across the street (with the same house) is thinking with an asking price of $775k (per Zillow, 1319 Silver Hawk), or the one just down the street (smaller) that’s listed at $750k…ouch.

[sethdallob]

Back to the price collapse – you’ve got to wonder what the guy across the street (with the same house) is thinking with an asking price of $775k (per Zillow, 1319 Silver Hawk), or the one just down the street (smaller) that’s listed at $750k…ouch.

[sethdallob]

Back to the price collapse – you’ve got to wonder what the guy across the street (with the same house) is thinking with an asking price of $775k (per Zillow, 1319 Silver Hawk), or the one just down the street (smaller) that’s listed at $750k…ouch.

[sethdallob]

Back to the price collapse – you’ve got to wonder what the guy across the street (with the same house) is thinking with an asking price of $775k (per Zillow, 1319 Silver Hawk), or the one just down the street (smaller) that’s listed at $750k…ouch.

[Anonymous]

But I think to a point Marion that is what esmith is saying is that Chula Vista is not Diverse by any means. You know my biggest fear is not for me but for my kids when they are old enough to go to school. They will be going to school with kids from Tijuana who are fortunate enough to have relatives that live in Chula Vista so that they can use their address to go to school here. That sucks most of us are paying Mellos and someone elses kid reaps the benefits. And my kids will be learning in Spanish because there will not be any diversity in Chula Vista. This is America but certain people do not treat it like that. Some people feel that we owe them something but we owe nothing to nobody it is not our fault their government cannot get their act together to fix crap so that people have no reason to jump the border and you do not see a bunch of canadians trying to come the US. As soon as the housing market gets better I am out of Chula Vista. I want what is best for my kids and being here with everything that is going on and the things to come I want no part of it and do not want my kids to grow up thinking they are Mexican just because everyone else is. Diversity is gone in Chula Vista and moved up to North County.

[Eugene]

1389 Old Janal Ranch Road, 5/4, 3,534 sf, just listed for $545,000 to $615,000 ($154 to $174 / sf). That’s more sf for less dough than 1308 Silver Hawk, less than half a mile away.

[Jumby]

wow!! thanks for finding this!

here is the link

http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1364831

A while back I was thinking $150 per sq ft could be the bottom for this area, but looks like I was wrong. If $85 per sq ft (give or take) is close to the bottom in Temecula (per TG), I wonder what the bottom will be in this area. $125 per sq ft? 32% cheaper?

Obviously I’m just rambling and it’s speculation, but I love to dream…

[Eugene]

I wonder what the bottom will be in this area. $125 per sq ft? 32% cheaper?

The decline will meet some resistance if and when larger houses like those two start going for 420-450k. So you can put 10% down and get a conforming loan on the rest. Imagine getting a new 3400 sf house for 2500/month fixed. Also imagine what it’ll do to resale values in older neighborhoods.

For now, though, I’d like to see the whole market come down to $150/sf. Just over one month ago, 1233 Pinehurst Rd (5/3, 3000 sf) sold for 710k. 1308 Silver Hawk was already listed for 616k.

[Jumby]

emsith, pacify me for a moment…

Give your predication on the bottom for something like this.

http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1354539

Keep in mind, no Mello Roos and no house behind you.

[recordsclerk]

That is a very nice home, but I don’t think any Quintessa homes are worth 1.4mil. Castillian (neighbor) homes are just starting to have downward pressure due to loan resets/defaults and Quintessa homes are next. Quintessa came out a little after Castillian homes. From the map that lot is nice, but I don’t think there are any panoramic views of open space or the lake. I’ve been looking at homes in the 800K range for the past 60 days, so I’m very familiar with that area. There is still a lot of pent-up demand for this area, but the price has to be right. I would say that currently that home would sell for about 1 to 1.2 mil. As far as the future I’m not sure how far these homes will come down. There was a Quintessa (on the same street I think) with the same sqft and cassita listed for 925k-1.2mil that is currently pending. It does not have a pool or the nice hard scape. That would be a comp that you might want to keep your eye on. I hope that I didn’t affend anyone by answering a question that was not directed at me, but I thought that I might have some info to share.

[Jumby]

recordsclerk, thanks for sharing!

[betting on fall]

just to add two more (unsolicted) cents on that Quintessa area. . . .
Through my mother in law realtor, I have been able to review some pretty detailed MLS info on that area, including loan balances.

Nearly everyone- like 90%- of the owners have loans around $1m. So I think that area will be ground-zero for seeing the impact of pay-option ARMs. Certainly more than a few buyers don’t have the $250,000-$300,000 income needed to make a fully amortizing payment on $1m loan, plus taxes and hoa, and refinancing won’t be possible if there are some low comps and tighter standards.

So I think the real price drops in that area will be in about 3-4 years, when the full payments kick in on the loans.
It will be interesting to see how the community reacts when essentially everyone is upside down on their house.

[Jumby]

wow good stuff…cause i’m loving that area now (since they finished the 125)

[CogSciGuy]

125’s gonna cost $80 or so a month if you use it daily, even with the “Fast Pass” discount.

Just one more expense…

[VoZangre]

OFF TO eXURBIA WITH THE LOT OF Y’ALL…

damned poor! damn the damned poor!

all that infestation and ignorance…

tsk tsk tsk

too bad ya cant just mow ’em down from a moving train like once they did the great Buffalo herds…

[VoZangre]

OFF TO eXURBIA WITH THE LOT OF Y’ALL…

damned poor! damn the damned poor!

all that infestation and ignorance…

tsk tsk tsk

too bad ya cant just mow ’em down from a moving train like once they did the great Buffalo herds…

[VoZangre]

OFF TO eXURBIA WITH THE LOT OF Y’ALL…

damned poor! damn the damned poor!

all that infestation and ignorance…

tsk tsk tsk

too bad ya cant just mow ’em down from a moving train like once they did the great Buffalo herds…

[VoZangre]

OFF TO eXURBIA WITH THE LOT OF Y’ALL…

damned poor! damn the damned poor!

all that infestation and ignorance…

tsk tsk tsk

too bad ya cant just mow ’em down from a moving train like once they did the great Buffalo herds…

[VoZangre]

OFF TO eXURBIA WITH THE LOT OF Y’ALL…

damned poor! damn the damned poor!

all that infestation and ignorance…

tsk tsk tsk

too bad ya cant just mow ’em down from a moving train like once they did the great Buffalo herds…

[CogSciGuy]

125’s gonna cost $80 or so a month if you use it daily, even with the “Fast Pass” discount.

Just one more expense…

[CogSciGuy]

125’s gonna cost $80 or so a month if you use it daily, even with the “Fast Pass” discount.

Just one more expense…

[CogSciGuy]

125’s gonna cost $80 or so a month if you use it daily, even with the “Fast Pass” discount.

Just one more expense…

[CogSciGuy]

125’s gonna cost $80 or so a month if you use it daily, even with the “Fast Pass” discount.

Just one more expense…

[Jumby]

wow good stuff…cause i’m loving that area now (since they finished the 125)

[Jumby]

wow good stuff…cause i’m loving that area now (since they finished the 125)

[Jumby]

wow good stuff…cause i’m loving that area now (since they finished the 125)

[Jumby]

wow good stuff…cause i’m loving that area now (since they finished the 125)

[betting on fall]

just to add two more (unsolicted) cents on that Quintessa area. . . .
Through my mother in law realtor, I have been able to review some pretty detailed MLS info on that area, including loan balances.

Nearly everyone- like 90%- of the owners have loans around $1m. So I think that area will be ground-zero for seeing the impact of pay-option ARMs. Certainly more than a few buyers don’t have the $250,000-$300,000 income needed to make a fully amortizing payment on $1m loan, plus taxes and hoa, and refinancing won’t be possible if there are some low comps and tighter standards.

So I think the real price drops in that area will be in about 3-4 years, when the full payments kick in on the loans.
It will be interesting to see how the community reacts when essentially everyone is upside down on their house.

[betting on fall]

just to add two more (unsolicted) cents on that Quintessa area. . . .
Through my mother in law realtor, I have been able to review some pretty detailed MLS info on that area, including loan balances.

Nearly everyone- like 90%- of the owners have loans around $1m. So I think that area will be ground-zero for seeing the impact of pay-option ARMs. Certainly more than a few buyers don’t have the $250,000-$300,000 income needed to make a fully amortizing payment on $1m loan, plus taxes and hoa, and refinancing won’t be possible if there are some low comps and tighter standards.

So I think the real price drops in that area will be in about 3-4 years, when the full payments kick in on the loans.
It will be interesting to see how the community reacts when essentially everyone is upside down on their house.

[betting on fall]

just to add two more (unsolicted) cents on that Quintessa area. . . .
Through my mother in law realtor, I have been able to review some pretty detailed MLS info on that area, including loan balances.

Nearly everyone- like 90%- of the owners have loans around $1m. So I think that area will be ground-zero for seeing the impact of pay-option ARMs. Certainly more than a few buyers don’t have the $250,000-$300,000 income needed to make a fully amortizing payment on $1m loan, plus taxes and hoa, and refinancing won’t be possible if there are some low comps and tighter standards.

So I think the real price drops in that area will be in about 3-4 years, when the full payments kick in on the loans.
It will be interesting to see how the community reacts when essentially everyone is upside down on their house.

[betting on fall]

just to add two more (unsolicted) cents on that Quintessa area. . . .
Through my mother in law realtor, I have been able to review some pretty detailed MLS info on that area, including loan balances.

Nearly everyone- like 90%- of the owners have loans around $1m. So I think that area will be ground-zero for seeing the impact of pay-option ARMs. Certainly more than a few buyers don’t have the $250,000-$300,000 income needed to make a fully amortizing payment on $1m loan, plus taxes and hoa, and refinancing won’t be possible if there are some low comps and tighter standards.

So I think the real price drops in that area will be in about 3-4 years, when the full payments kick in on the loans.
It will be interesting to see how the community reacts when essentially everyone is upside down on their house.

[Jumby]

recordsclerk, thanks for sharing!

[Jumby]

recordsclerk, thanks for sharing!

[Jumby]

recordsclerk, thanks for sharing!

[Jumby]

recordsclerk, thanks for sharing!

[recordsclerk]

That is a very nice home, but I don’t think any Quintessa homes are worth 1.4mil. Castillian (neighbor) homes are just starting to have downward pressure due to loan resets/defaults and Quintessa homes are next. Quintessa came out a little after Castillian homes. From the map that lot is nice, but I don’t think there are any panoramic views of open space or the lake. I’ve been looking at homes in the 800K range for the past 60 days, so I’m very familiar with that area. There is still a lot of pent-up demand for this area, but the price has to be right. I would say that currently that home would sell for about 1 to 1.2 mil. As far as the future I’m not sure how far these homes will come down. There was a Quintessa (on the same street I think) with the same sqft and cassita listed for 925k-1.2mil that is currently pending. It does not have a pool or the nice hard scape. That would be a comp that you might want to keep your eye on. I hope that I didn’t affend anyone by answering a question that was not directed at me, but I thought that I might have some info to share.

[recordsclerk]

That is a very nice home, but I don’t think any Quintessa homes are worth 1.4mil. Castillian (neighbor) homes are just starting to have downward pressure due to loan resets/defaults and Quintessa homes are next. Quintessa came out a little after Castillian homes. From the map that lot is nice, but I don’t think there are any panoramic views of open space or the lake. I’ve been looking at homes in the 800K range for the past 60 days, so I’m very familiar with that area. There is still a lot of pent-up demand for this area, but the price has to be right. I would say that currently that home would sell for about 1 to 1.2 mil. As far as the future I’m not sure how far these homes will come down. There was a Quintessa (on the same street I think) with the same sqft and cassita listed for 925k-1.2mil that is currently pending. It does not have a pool or the nice hard scape. That would be a comp that you might want to keep your eye on. I hope that I didn’t affend anyone by answering a question that was not directed at me, but I thought that I might have some info to share.

[recordsclerk]

That is a very nice home, but I don’t think any Quintessa homes are worth 1.4mil. Castillian (neighbor) homes are just starting to have downward pressure due to loan resets/defaults and Quintessa homes are next. Quintessa came out a little after Castillian homes. From the map that lot is nice, but I don’t think there are any panoramic views of open space or the lake. I’ve been looking at homes in the 800K range for the past 60 days, so I’m very familiar with that area. There is still a lot of pent-up demand for this area, but the price has to be right. I would say that currently that home would sell for about 1 to 1.2 mil. As far as the future I’m not sure how far these homes will come down. There was a Quintessa (on the same street I think) with the same sqft and cassita listed for 925k-1.2mil that is currently pending. It does not have a pool or the nice hard scape. That would be a comp that you might want to keep your eye on. I hope that I didn’t affend anyone by answering a question that was not directed at me, but I thought that I might have some info to share.

[recordsclerk]

That is a very nice home, but I don’t think any Quintessa homes are worth 1.4mil. Castillian (neighbor) homes are just starting to have downward pressure due to loan resets/defaults and Quintessa homes are next. Quintessa came out a little after Castillian homes. From the map that lot is nice, but I don’t think there are any panoramic views of open space or the lake. I’ve been looking at homes in the 800K range for the past 60 days, so I’m very familiar with that area. There is still a lot of pent-up demand for this area, but the price has to be right. I would say that currently that home would sell for about 1 to 1.2 mil. As far as the future I’m not sure how far these homes will come down. There was a Quintessa (on the same street I think) with the same sqft and cassita listed for 925k-1.2mil that is currently pending. It does not have a pool or the nice hard scape. That would be a comp that you might want to keep your eye on. I hope that I didn’t affend anyone by answering a question that was not directed at me, but I thought that I might have some info to share.

[recordsclerk]

Jumby,

We drove by that house on our way to look at another property down the street. It is very nice, but those pictures make it look more grand. There are a few listings for Quintessa homes in the 1 mil to 1.1 mil. I think these prices are still too high and should go into the 900k in the next few months. There is also a 1 story Quintessa home that just lowered there asking to 970K, but I think that’s still too high. I really like this area, the fact that there’s no mello roos adds to the equation.

[Jumby]

thanks for sharing…let me know what that other house on winding fence when for…

i’m having fun just watching everything, i won’t be in the market for at least another year, maybe 2….so i’m not competition..

[recordsclerk]

Submitted by Jumby on January 5, 2008 – 6:06pm.
“thanks for sharing…let me know what that other house on winding fence when for…

i’m having fun just watching everything, i won’t be in the market for at least another year, maybe 2….so i’m not competition..”

2943 Winding Fence Way (Castillian plan 3, my personnal favorite)went for $837K with 10K in closing paid by seller. I really liked this home. I offered 820K with 20K credit towards closing.

The 1 story 3100sqft (Castillian plan 1) home with a pool 2 doors down went for $720K. I think the buyer paid cash because the selling agent said there was an cash offer. This home was listed for 704K and I offered 720K.

There are currently 3 short sales (Castillian plan 4) listed under 1mil. One of them is the former model plan 4 that currently already has an offer pending. I would love to buy any of these for 800K. There are 2 short sales (Castillan plan 2) listed for 780K and 900-950K. I think the 780K looks better from the front, but I haven’t been inside the 900K listing.

As far as Quintessa, there is only 1 listing for under a million and that is a plan 1 (1 story) listed for 970K. The same one I mentioned in the earlier post. Originally there were 3 models by Quintessa and now they are adding to more plans that are smaller. Plan 4 (1 story) is 2692-2885sqft being offered for 794-821K. Plan 5 is 3361-3582sqft (2 story) is being offered at 871-875K.
Plan 1 from builder is being offered at 836-970K
Plan 2 904K
Plan 3 1,060K
These are the starting prices, but still negotiable.

[recordsclerk]

Submitted by Jumby on January 5, 2008 – 6:06pm.
“thanks for sharing…let me know what that other house on winding fence when for…

i’m having fun just watching everything, i won’t be in the market for at least another year, maybe 2….so i’m not competition..”

2943 Winding Fence Way (Castillian plan 3, my personnal favorite)went for $837K with 10K in closing paid by seller. I really liked this home. I offered 820K with 20K credit towards closing.

The 1 story 3100sqft (Castillian plan 1) home with a pool 2 doors down went for $720K. I think the buyer paid cash because the selling agent said there was an cash offer. This home was listed for 704K and I offered 720K.

There are currently 3 short sales (Castillian plan 4) listed under 1mil. One of them is the former model plan 4 that currently already has an offer pending. I would love to buy any of these for 800K. There are 2 short sales (Castillan plan 2) listed for 780K and 900-950K. I think the 780K looks better from the front, but I haven’t been inside the 900K listing.

As far as Quintessa, there is only 1 listing for under a million and that is a plan 1 (1 story) listed for 970K. The same one I mentioned in the earlier post. Originally there were 3 models by Quintessa and now they are adding to more plans that are smaller. Plan 4 (1 story) is 2692-2885sqft being offered for 794-821K. Plan 5 is 3361-3582sqft (2 story) is being offered at 871-875K.
Plan 1 from builder is being offered at 836-970K
Plan 2 904K
Plan 3 1,060K
These are the starting prices, but still negotiable.

[recordsclerk]

Submitted by Jumby on January 5, 2008 – 6:06pm.
“thanks for sharing…let me know what that other house on winding fence when for…

i’m having fun just watching everything, i won’t be in the market for at least another year, maybe 2….so i’m not competition..”

2943 Winding Fence Way (Castillian plan 3, my personnal favorite)went for $837K with 10K in closing paid by seller. I really liked this home. I offered 820K with 20K credit towards closing.

The 1 story 3100sqft (Castillian plan 1) home with a pool 2 doors down went for $720K. I think the buyer paid cash because the selling agent said there was an cash offer. This home was listed for 704K and I offered 720K.

There are currently 3 short sales (Castillian plan 4) listed under 1mil. One of them is the former model plan 4 that currently already has an offer pending. I would love to buy any of these for 800K. There are 2 short sales (Castillan plan 2) listed for 780K and 900-950K. I think the 780K looks better from the front, but I haven’t been inside the 900K listing.

As far as Quintessa, there is only 1 listing for under a million and that is a plan 1 (1 story) listed for 970K. The same one I mentioned in the earlier post. Originally there were 3 models by Quintessa and now they are adding to more plans that are smaller. Plan 4 (1 story) is 2692-2885sqft being offered for 794-821K. Plan 5 is 3361-3582sqft (2 story) is being offered at 871-875K.
Plan 1 from builder is being offered at 836-970K
Plan 2 904K
Plan 3 1,060K
These are the starting prices, but still negotiable.

[recordsclerk]

Submitted by Jumby on January 5, 2008 – 6:06pm.
“thanks for sharing…let me know what that other house on winding fence when for…

i’m having fun just watching everything, i won’t be in the market for at least another year, maybe 2….so i’m not competition..”

2943 Winding Fence Way (Castillian plan 3, my personnal favorite)went for $837K with 10K in closing paid by seller. I really liked this home. I offered 820K with 20K credit towards closing.

The 1 story 3100sqft (Castillian plan 1) home with a pool 2 doors down went for $720K. I think the buyer paid cash because the selling agent said there was an cash offer. This home was listed for 704K and I offered 720K.

There are currently 3 short sales (Castillian plan 4) listed under 1mil. One of them is the former model plan 4 that currently already has an offer pending. I would love to buy any of these for 800K. There are 2 short sales (Castillan plan 2) listed for 780K and 900-950K. I think the 780K looks better from the front, but I haven’t been inside the 900K listing.

As far as Quintessa, there is only 1 listing for under a million and that is a plan 1 (1 story) listed for 970K. The same one I mentioned in the earlier post. Originally there were 3 models by Quintessa and now they are adding to more plans that are smaller. Plan 4 (1 story) is 2692-2885sqft being offered for 794-821K. Plan 5 is 3361-3582sqft (2 story) is being offered at 871-875K.
Plan 1 from builder is being offered at 836-970K
Plan 2 904K
Plan 3 1,060K
These are the starting prices, but still negotiable.

[recordsclerk]

Submitted by Jumby on January 5, 2008 – 6:06pm.
“thanks for sharing…let me know what that other house on winding fence when for…

i’m having fun just watching everything, i won’t be in the market for at least another year, maybe 2….so i’m not competition..”

2943 Winding Fence Way (Castillian plan 3, my personnal favorite)went for $837K with 10K in closing paid by seller. I really liked this home. I offered 820K with 20K credit towards closing.

The 1 story 3100sqft (Castillian plan 1) home with a pool 2 doors down went for $720K. I think the buyer paid cash because the selling agent said there was an cash offer. This home was listed for 704K and I offered 720K.

There are currently 3 short sales (Castillian plan 4) listed under 1mil. One of them is the former model plan 4 that currently already has an offer pending. I would love to buy any of these for 800K. There are 2 short sales (Castillan plan 2) listed for 780K and 900-950K. I think the 780K looks better from the front, but I haven’t been inside the 900K listing.

As far as Quintessa, there is only 1 listing for under a million and that is a plan 1 (1 story) listed for 970K. The same one I mentioned in the earlier post. Originally there were 3 models by Quintessa and now they are adding to more plans that are smaller. Plan 4 (1 story) is 2692-2885sqft being offered for 794-821K. Plan 5 is 3361-3582sqft (2 story) is being offered at 871-875K.
Plan 1 from builder is being offered at 836-970K
Plan 2 904K
Plan 3 1,060K
These are the starting prices, but still negotiable.

[Jumby]

thanks for sharing…let me know what that other house on winding fence when for…

i’m having fun just watching everything, i won’t be in the market for at least another year, maybe 2….so i’m not competition..

[Jumby]

thanks for sharing…let me know what that other house on winding fence when for…

i’m having fun just watching everything, i won’t be in the market for at least another year, maybe 2….so i’m not competition..

[Jumby]

thanks for sharing…let me know what that other house on winding fence when for…

i’m having fun just watching everything, i won’t be in the market for at least another year, maybe 2….so i’m not competition..

[Jumby]

thanks for sharing…let me know what that other house on winding fence when for…

i’m having fun just watching everything, i won’t be in the market for at least another year, maybe 2….so i’m not competition..

[Jumby]

Which house did you drive by? This one?

http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1354539

You think this house could hit 900k eventually?

[recordsclerk]

Yes that is the house we drove by. This house has a lot of hardscape and may not dip into the 900s, but similar homes that are distress sales will dip into the 900s. This house is a plan 3 and I believe Quintessa is still building so you could probably go to the sales office if you want to look at the model. Most of these homes were built in 2006/2007 and may take more time before they go into forclosure/distress. There was one same model (plan 4) with casita that went pending. It was a short sale that was listed at 925k-1.2mil. Since it’s a short sale it may take some time to find out the final sale price if/when it happens. All the homes in Quintessa have upgraded kitchens and some flooring/bathrooms upgrades, so essentially they should have the same amount/value of upgrades inside. Quintessa is also on my radar, but I could only afford 800K, so for now it’s not a possibility.

[recordsclerk]

This is the first home over 3000sqft to list for under 500K. The list price is 499-550K.
The address is:
2410 Wishing Star Way, Chula Vista, 91915
MLS: 088006395
3817sqft
$131 a sqft. in Chula Vista.
This is probably a short sale and will not sell for this price, but it is the first to be listed for under 500K.

http://www.ziprealty.com/buy_a_home/logged_in/search/home_detail.jsp?listing_num=088006395&page=1&property_type=SFR&mls=mls_sandiego&cKey=lmmxmcz6&source=SANDICOR

[CMcG]

I went to bugmenot to get a log in and password for zip realty. This works right now:

log-in: [email protected]
Password: bugmenot

[NotCranky]

http://www.sdlookup.com/Property-339A43FA-1863_Sheep_Ranch_Loop_Chula_Vista_CA_91913

Looks like a successful flip of a wamu REO in Chula Vista.I am assuming that the “merchandiser” didn’t do much in the way of repairs because the REO sale closed 11-26-2007. The place was turnkey.Sold fast.

[Eugene]

ForeclosureRadar.com is a neat tool.

1308 Silver Hawk got a Notice of Default on December 7th, this could explain lack of recent activity. Sold in Dec 2005 for $1.057m, cash-out refinance in Sep 2006 (took out 100k). His neighbors include 3 REOs, one guy who just got a NOD last month, and two guys attempting short sales just for the heck of it.

2410 Wishing Star is not in default (yet).

[Anonymous]

How much longer before this area (91914) bottoms out? Any predictions? 10%, 20% further decline?

[CogSciGuy]

I predict homes will soon be free in Chula Vista. If there is an overcorrection, free houses will come with cash “signing bonuses” for the prospective buyers.

[Eugene]

I predict homes will soon be free in Chula Vista. If there is an overcorrection, free houses will come with cash “signing bonuses” for the prospective buyers.

You do need to pay for FastTrack to get in and out of Chula Vista. Perhaps you could negotiate with the seller that you live in his house for free and he pays for your commute.

[Eugene]

1308 Silver Hawk closed at 580k. Two more neighbors closed during the last month at 550k and 579.9k. The remaining houses on the street now have a solid but rather unpleasant set of comps.

[davelj]

I’m looking for a condo down in Imperial Beach (don’t ask) and the prices there have just been crushed. There are 3bed/2bath condos that would rent for $1300-$1400/mo. selling for $170K-$190K in foreclosure. These are selling at about 55% of their peak value back in ’05. Don’t get me wrong, they’ll surely head lower over the next year… but at least progress is being made.

[Eugene]

Two years after being sold out, Castillian is crashing so bad that Zillow can’t believe those resale prices.

2909 Winding Fence: original sale in Apr ’06 for 1286k; sold in April for 805k:
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-076093927-2909_Winding_Fence_Way_Chula_Vista_CA_91914
http://www.zillow.com/HomeDetails.htm?zprop=69020817

2936 Winding Fence: original sale in Mar ’06 for 1366k; sold in May for 800k

And a new contender in the race towards the bottom:

2937 Babbling Brook: REO sold in Sep ’06 for amazing 1418k, could be yours for just 740k. 5 bedrooms, 4219 sf. At least a quarter acre lot.

Remember, there’s no mello-roos, you only pay for tolls and gas to get to/from Eastlake.

If you miss this one, don’t worry, there’s a lot more where it came from. Just on Babbling Brook there are over 20 houses whose original owners paid a median of 1200k two years ago. Five owners are in default and one house is bank-owned.

Personally, I wouldn’t want to be the first guy on the street who bought at 50% off, they might start throwing eggs and rotten tomatoes into my car. I’d wait till half of the original neighborhood is gone. I just hope none of those poor buggers put their life savings down.

[patientlywaiting]

esmith, if i remember well, in the beginning, you didn’t really think that prices would go 1/2 off.

Chula Vista now, Encinitas, Carmel Valley and 4S later.

[sdrealtor]

If my house ever goes down by 50% from its peak price I will eat it one board at a time.

[Eugene]

If my house ever goes down by 50% from its peak price I will eat it one board at a time.

In Encinitas, correct?

What’s the peak price, and what was it worth in early ’02 (per zillow or whatever)?

[Eugene]

If my house ever goes down by 50% from its peak price I will eat it one board at a time.

In Encinitas, correct?

What’s the peak price, and what was it worth in early ’02 (per zillow or whatever)?

[Eugene]

If my house ever goes down by 50% from its peak price I will eat it one board at a time.

In Encinitas, correct?

What’s the peak price, and what was it worth in early ’02 (per zillow or whatever)?

[Eugene]

If my house ever goes down by 50% from its peak price I will eat it one board at a time.

In Encinitas, correct?

What’s the peak price, and what was it worth in early ’02 (per zillow or whatever)?

[Eugene]

If my house ever goes down by 50% from its peak price I will eat it one board at a time.

In Encinitas, correct?

What’s the peak price, and what was it worth in early ’02 (per zillow or whatever)?

[cashflow]

sdrealtor….I hope you have a small house….

[SD Realtor]

Once upon a time the fighting Illini had lost 23 straight big ten conference football games. 2 years ago they were on the road at Michigan State against a huge spread… Looked like lose number 24 was in the bag. I had a rather substantial money line wager on the favorite…

Lets just say I ended up eating alot of boards that day.

I tend to think Encinitas will not drop 50% from the peak but I have learned to never say never.

[SD Realtor]

Once upon a time the fighting Illini had lost 23 straight big ten conference football games. 2 years ago they were on the road at Michigan State against a huge spread… Looked like lose number 24 was in the bag. I had a rather substantial money line wager on the favorite…

Lets just say I ended up eating alot of boards that day.

I tend to think Encinitas will not drop 50% from the peak but I have learned to never say never.

[SD Realtor]

Once upon a time the fighting Illini had lost 23 straight big ten conference football games. 2 years ago they were on the road at Michigan State against a huge spread… Looked like lose number 24 was in the bag. I had a rather substantial money line wager on the favorite…

Lets just say I ended up eating alot of boards that day.

I tend to think Encinitas will not drop 50% from the peak but I have learned to never say never.

[SD Realtor]

Once upon a time the fighting Illini had lost 23 straight big ten conference football games. 2 years ago they were on the road at Michigan State against a huge spread… Looked like lose number 24 was in the bag. I had a rather substantial money line wager on the favorite…

Lets just say I ended up eating alot of boards that day.

I tend to think Encinitas will not drop 50% from the peak but I have learned to never say never.

[SD Realtor]

Once upon a time the fighting Illini had lost 23 straight big ten conference football games. 2 years ago they were on the road at Michigan State against a huge spread… Looked like lose number 24 was in the bag. I had a rather substantial money line wager on the favorite…

Lets just say I ended up eating alot of boards that day.

I tend to think Encinitas will not drop 50% from the peak but I have learned to never say never.

[cashflow]

sdrealtor….I hope you have a small house….

[cashflow]

sdrealtor….I hope you have a small house….

[cashflow]

sdrealtor….I hope you have a small house….

[cashflow]

sdrealtor….I hope you have a small house….

[sdrealtor]

If my house ever goes down by 50% from its peak price I will eat it one board at a time.

[sdrealtor]

If my house ever goes down by 50% from its peak price I will eat it one board at a time.

[sdrealtor]

If my house ever goes down by 50% from its peak price I will eat it one board at a time.

[sdrealtor]

If my house ever goes down by 50% from its peak price I will eat it one board at a time.

[patientlywaiting]

esmith, if i remember well, in the beginning, you didn’t really think that prices would go 1/2 off.

Chula Vista now, Encinitas, Carmel Valley and 4S later.

[patientlywaiting]

esmith, if i remember well, in the beginning, you didn’t really think that prices would go 1/2 off.

Chula Vista now, Encinitas, Carmel Valley and 4S later.

[patientlywaiting]

esmith, if i remember well, in the beginning, you didn’t really think that prices would go 1/2 off.

Chula Vista now, Encinitas, Carmel Valley and 4S later.

[patientlywaiting]

esmith, if i remember well, in the beginning, you didn’t really think that prices would go 1/2 off.

Chula Vista now, Encinitas, Carmel Valley and 4S later.

[Eugene]

Two years after being sold out, Castillian is crashing so bad that Zillow can’t believe those resale prices.

2909 Winding Fence: original sale in Apr ’06 for 1286k; sold in April for 805k:
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-076093927-2909_Winding_Fence_Way_Chula_Vista_CA_91914
http://www.zillow.com/HomeDetails.htm?zprop=69020817

2936 Winding Fence: original sale in Mar ’06 for 1366k; sold in May for 800k

And a new contender in the race towards the bottom:

2937 Babbling Brook: REO sold in Sep ’06 for amazing 1418k, could be yours for just 740k. 5 bedrooms, 4219 sf. At least a quarter acre lot.

Remember, there’s no mello-roos, you only pay for tolls and gas to get to/from Eastlake.

If you miss this one, don’t worry, there’s a lot more where it came from. Just on Babbling Brook there are over 20 houses whose original owners paid a median of 1200k two years ago. Five owners are in default and one house is bank-owned.

Personally, I wouldn’t want to be the first guy on the street who bought at 50% off, they might start throwing eggs and rotten tomatoes into my car. I’d wait till half of the original neighborhood is gone. I just hope none of those poor buggers put their life savings down.

[Eugene]

Two years after being sold out, Castillian is crashing so bad that Zillow can’t believe those resale prices.

2909 Winding Fence: original sale in Apr ’06 for 1286k; sold in April for 805k:
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-076093927-2909_Winding_Fence_Way_Chula_Vista_CA_91914
http://www.zillow.com/HomeDetails.htm?zprop=69020817

2936 Winding Fence: original sale in Mar ’06 for 1366k; sold in May for 800k

And a new contender in the race towards the bottom:

2937 Babbling Brook: REO sold in Sep ’06 for amazing 1418k, could be yours for just 740k. 5 bedrooms, 4219 sf. At least a quarter acre lot.

Remember, there’s no mello-roos, you only pay for tolls and gas to get to/from Eastlake.

If you miss this one, don’t worry, there’s a lot more where it came from. Just on Babbling Brook there are over 20 houses whose original owners paid a median of 1200k two years ago. Five owners are in default and one house is bank-owned.

Personally, I wouldn’t want to be the first guy on the street who bought at 50% off, they might start throwing eggs and rotten tomatoes into my car. I’d wait till half of the original neighborhood is gone. I just hope none of those poor buggers put their life savings down.

[Eugene]

Two years after being sold out, Castillian is crashing so bad that Zillow can’t believe those resale prices.

2909 Winding Fence: original sale in Apr ’06 for 1286k; sold in April for 805k:
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-076093927-2909_Winding_Fence_Way_Chula_Vista_CA_91914
http://www.zillow.com/HomeDetails.htm?zprop=69020817

2936 Winding Fence: original sale in Mar ’06 for 1366k; sold in May for 800k

And a new contender in the race towards the bottom:

2937 Babbling Brook: REO sold in Sep ’06 for amazing 1418k, could be yours for just 740k. 5 bedrooms, 4219 sf. At least a quarter acre lot.

Remember, there’s no mello-roos, you only pay for tolls and gas to get to/from Eastlake.

If you miss this one, don’t worry, there’s a lot more where it came from. Just on Babbling Brook there are over 20 houses whose original owners paid a median of 1200k two years ago. Five owners are in default and one house is bank-owned.

Personally, I wouldn’t want to be the first guy on the street who bought at 50% off, they might start throwing eggs and rotten tomatoes into my car. I’d wait till half of the original neighborhood is gone. I just hope none of those poor buggers put their life savings down.

[Eugene]

Two years after being sold out, Castillian is crashing so bad that Zillow can’t believe those resale prices.

2909 Winding Fence: original sale in Apr ’06 for 1286k; sold in April for 805k:
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-076093927-2909_Winding_Fence_Way_Chula_Vista_CA_91914
http://www.zillow.com/HomeDetails.htm?zprop=69020817

2936 Winding Fence: original sale in Mar ’06 for 1366k; sold in May for 800k

And a new contender in the race towards the bottom:

2937 Babbling Brook: REO sold in Sep ’06 for amazing 1418k, could be yours for just 740k. 5 bedrooms, 4219 sf. At least a quarter acre lot.

Remember, there’s no mello-roos, you only pay for tolls and gas to get to/from Eastlake.

If you miss this one, don’t worry, there’s a lot more where it came from. Just on Babbling Brook there are over 20 houses whose original owners paid a median of 1200k two years ago. Five owners are in default and one house is bank-owned.

Personally, I wouldn’t want to be the first guy on the street who bought at 50% off, they might start throwing eggs and rotten tomatoes into my car. I’d wait till half of the original neighborhood is gone. I just hope none of those poor buggers put their life savings down.

[davelj]

I’m looking for a condo down in Imperial Beach (don’t ask) and the prices there have just been crushed. There are 3bed/2bath condos that would rent for $1300-$1400/mo. selling for $170K-$190K in foreclosure. These are selling at about 55% of their peak value back in ’05. Don’t get me wrong, they’ll surely head lower over the next year… but at least progress is being made.

[davelj]

I’m looking for a condo down in Imperial Beach (don’t ask) and the prices there have just been crushed. There are 3bed/2bath condos that would rent for $1300-$1400/mo. selling for $170K-$190K in foreclosure. These are selling at about 55% of their peak value back in ’05. Don’t get me wrong, they’ll surely head lower over the next year… but at least progress is being made.

[davelj]

I’m looking for a condo down in Imperial Beach (don’t ask) and the prices there have just been crushed. There are 3bed/2bath condos that would rent for $1300-$1400/mo. selling for $170K-$190K in foreclosure. These are selling at about 55% of their peak value back in ’05. Don’t get me wrong, they’ll surely head lower over the next year… but at least progress is being made.

[davelj]

I’m looking for a condo down in Imperial Beach (don’t ask) and the prices there have just been crushed. There are 3bed/2bath condos that would rent for $1300-$1400/mo. selling for $170K-$190K in foreclosure. These are selling at about 55% of their peak value back in ’05. Don’t get me wrong, they’ll surely head lower over the next year… but at least progress is being made.

[Eugene]

1308 Silver Hawk closed at 580k. Two more neighbors closed during the last month at 550k and 579.9k. The remaining houses on the street now have a solid but rather unpleasant set of comps.

[Eugene]

1308 Silver Hawk closed at 580k. Two more neighbors closed during the last month at 550k and 579.9k. The remaining houses on the street now have a solid but rather unpleasant set of comps.

[Eugene]

1308 Silver Hawk closed at 580k. Two more neighbors closed during the last month at 550k and 579.9k. The remaining houses on the street now have a solid but rather unpleasant set of comps.

[Eugene]

1308 Silver Hawk closed at 580k. Two more neighbors closed during the last month at 550k and 579.9k. The remaining houses on the street now have a solid but rather unpleasant set of comps.

[Eugene]

I predict homes will soon be free in Chula Vista. If there is an overcorrection, free houses will come with cash “signing bonuses” for the prospective buyers.

You do need to pay for FastTrack to get in and out of Chula Vista. Perhaps you could negotiate with the seller that you live in his house for free and he pays for your commute.

[Eugene]

I predict homes will soon be free in Chula Vista. If there is an overcorrection, free houses will come with cash “signing bonuses” for the prospective buyers.

You do need to pay for FastTrack to get in and out of Chula Vista. Perhaps you could negotiate with the seller that you live in his house for free and he pays for your commute.

[Eugene]

I predict homes will soon be free in Chula Vista. If there is an overcorrection, free houses will come with cash “signing bonuses” for the prospective buyers.

You do need to pay for FastTrack to get in and out of Chula Vista. Perhaps you could negotiate with the seller that you live in his house for free and he pays for your commute.

[Eugene]

I predict homes will soon be free in Chula Vista. If there is an overcorrection, free houses will come with cash “signing bonuses” for the prospective buyers.

You do need to pay for FastTrack to get in and out of Chula Vista. Perhaps you could negotiate with the seller that you live in his house for free and he pays for your commute.

[CogSciGuy]

I predict homes will soon be free in Chula Vista. If there is an overcorrection, free houses will come with cash “signing bonuses” for the prospective buyers.

[CogSciGuy]

I predict homes will soon be free in Chula Vista. If there is an overcorrection, free houses will come with cash “signing bonuses” for the prospective buyers.

[CogSciGuy]

I predict homes will soon be free in Chula Vista. If there is an overcorrection, free houses will come with cash “signing bonuses” for the prospective buyers.

[CogSciGuy]

I predict homes will soon be free in Chula Vista. If there is an overcorrection, free houses will come with cash “signing bonuses” for the prospective buyers.

[recordsclerk]

Rollingboricua,

Since I have been seriously shopping in this area for the last 3 months and studying this area since 2004, I will try to answer your question. This would be a guess just like anyone else. 91914 has held up better then 91913 and 91915. I think this is due to the fact that there is no Mello Roos except in the Miguel Ranch and Woods areas. I’m am only looking at larger homes 3000sqft and over, so I might be wrong about anything smaller and my samples would be from homes 3000sqft and larger. The homes in the Woods area have dropped dramatically and there are REOs listed at 30-40% loss since last/original saler. There are a lot of short sales in that area also. The newer 91914 area east of Hunte and North of Proctor Valley (EH) are just starting to get under way due to the fact that they were sold 2005 and later. Castillian seems to be the first build that is showing distress. I think Quintessa is next and only a few months away from showing distress. Clearstory and Provence will come after that, but I don’t think there will be as many distressed sellers due to loan resets, I think they will just simply walk away because their homes are 20-30% underwater and they will not want to continue to pay when it makes more since just walking away and saving a few 100K.
The gated homes in (Tessera?) off Duncan Ranch have held up until recently. These homes were going for 900k and up. There are about 8 active listings and 2 or 3 are for under 700K. Just last month you wouldn’t see any listings under 700k, I think the lowest was 750k+.
The homes off Duncan Ranch north of Protor Valley (Magnolia Hills?) have also held up pretty good. I have not seen anything under 700K.
The homes in Miguel Ranch that were built 2003-2005ish have not fared as good. There are still some owners in denial in that area, but REO’s are listing in the high 500K- low 600s.
In 91915 and 91913 you can find listings for 3000sqft homes in the low to mid 500s. The Windingwalk area is a mess. There are so many listings in a 6 block radius. Most of them are short sales, but there are some REOs and obviously future REOs.
I do think that this area will drop more, especially the homes (builds) that have held up the most in 91914. I think that homes in 91914 will still be more desirable/valuable then 91913 and 91915, but I think they will catch up to the % drops seen in those Zips. I think this area will probably drop another 20% and will end up down about 40-60% from it’s highs. I also think that you may find $110 sqft for some REOs at the bottom.

[Anonymous]

Thank you for you iput recordsclerk. My target area is strictly 91914 — San Miguel Ranch and North of Proctor Valley Road. I’ve been eyeing this are for about a year now and have been watching how this area’s been dropping. My concern is that because most of these homes were built during the peak, they might only drop as far as what they originally sold for. I’m not in the market for a 3000sqft home, mine is a more modest 2400-2500 sqft home and I’ve seen a few going for, the lowest, 479K in San Miguel Ranch, so I’m wondering how much further it’ll drop, specially because I keep seeing how many homes go pending once it drops to a certain price. And then there are those that go pending and fall out of it, but those are few.

[recordsclerk]

The homes purchased between 2004-2007 are selling for below the original purchase price. The REOs are selling at a loss and pricing is starting to go back to 2003 prices. Good luck with your search.

[recordsclerk]

The homes purchased between 2004-2007 are selling for below the original purchase price. The REOs are selling at a loss and pricing is starting to go back to 2003 prices. Good luck with your search.

[recordsclerk]

The homes purchased between 2004-2007 are selling for below the original purchase price. The REOs are selling at a loss and pricing is starting to go back to 2003 prices. Good luck with your search.

[recordsclerk]

The homes purchased between 2004-2007 are selling for below the original purchase price. The REOs are selling at a loss and pricing is starting to go back to 2003 prices. Good luck with your search.

[recordsclerk]

The homes purchased between 2004-2007 are selling for below the original purchase price. The REOs are selling at a loss and pricing is starting to go back to 2003 prices. Good luck with your search.

[Anonymous]

Thank you for you iput recordsclerk. My target area is strictly 91914 — San Miguel Ranch and North of Proctor Valley Road. I’ve been eyeing this are for about a year now and have been watching how this area’s been dropping. My concern is that because most of these homes were built during the peak, they might only drop as far as what they originally sold for. I’m not in the market for a 3000sqft home, mine is a more modest 2400-2500 sqft home and I’ve seen a few going for, the lowest, 479K in San Miguel Ranch, so I’m wondering how much further it’ll drop, specially because I keep seeing how many homes go pending once it drops to a certain price. And then there are those that go pending and fall out of it, but those are few.

[Anonymous]

Thank you for you iput recordsclerk. My target area is strictly 91914 — San Miguel Ranch and North of Proctor Valley Road. I’ve been eyeing this are for about a year now and have been watching how this area’s been dropping. My concern is that because most of these homes were built during the peak, they might only drop as far as what they originally sold for. I’m not in the market for a 3000sqft home, mine is a more modest 2400-2500 sqft home and I’ve seen a few going for, the lowest, 479K in San Miguel Ranch, so I’m wondering how much further it’ll drop, specially because I keep seeing how many homes go pending once it drops to a certain price. And then there are those that go pending and fall out of it, but those are few.

[Anonymous]

Thank you for you iput recordsclerk. My target area is strictly 91914 — San Miguel Ranch and North of Proctor Valley Road. I’ve been eyeing this are for about a year now and have been watching how this area’s been dropping. My concern is that because most of these homes were built during the peak, they might only drop as far as what they originally sold for. I’m not in the market for a 3000sqft home, mine is a more modest 2400-2500 sqft home and I’ve seen a few going for, the lowest, 479K in San Miguel Ranch, so I’m wondering how much further it’ll drop, specially because I keep seeing how many homes go pending once it drops to a certain price. And then there are those that go pending and fall out of it, but those are few.

[Anonymous]

Thank you for you iput recordsclerk. My target area is strictly 91914 — San Miguel Ranch and North of Proctor Valley Road. I’ve been eyeing this are for about a year now and have been watching how this area’s been dropping. My concern is that because most of these homes were built during the peak, they might only drop as far as what they originally sold for. I’m not in the market for a 3000sqft home, mine is a more modest 2400-2500 sqft home and I’ve seen a few going for, the lowest, 479K in San Miguel Ranch, so I’m wondering how much further it’ll drop, specially because I keep seeing how many homes go pending once it drops to a certain price. And then there are those that go pending and fall out of it, but those are few.

[recordsclerk]

Rollingboricua,

Since I have been seriously shopping in this area for the last 3 months and studying this area since 2004, I will try to answer your question. This would be a guess just like anyone else. 91914 has held up better then 91913 and 91915. I think this is due to the fact that there is no Mello Roos except in the Miguel Ranch and Woods areas. I’m am only looking at larger homes 3000sqft and over, so I might be wrong about anything smaller and my samples would be from homes 3000sqft and larger. The homes in the Woods area have dropped dramatically and there are REOs listed at 30-40% loss since last/original saler. There are a lot of short sales in that area also. The newer 91914 area east of Hunte and North of Proctor Valley (EH) are just starting to get under way due to the fact that they were sold 2005 and later. Castillian seems to be the first build that is showing distress. I think Quintessa is next and only a few months away from showing distress. Clearstory and Provence will come after that, but I don’t think there will be as many distressed sellers due to loan resets, I think they will just simply walk away because their homes are 20-30% underwater and they will not want to continue to pay when it makes more since just walking away and saving a few 100K.
The gated homes in (Tessera?) off Duncan Ranch have held up until recently. These homes were going for 900k and up. There are about 8 active listings and 2 or 3 are for under 700K. Just last month you wouldn’t see any listings under 700k, I think the lowest was 750k+.
The homes off Duncan Ranch north of Protor Valley (Magnolia Hills?) have also held up pretty good. I have not seen anything under 700K.
The homes in Miguel Ranch that were built 2003-2005ish have not fared as good. There are still some owners in denial in that area, but REO’s are listing in the high 500K- low 600s.
In 91915 and 91913 you can find listings for 3000sqft homes in the low to mid 500s. The Windingwalk area is a mess. There are so many listings in a 6 block radius. Most of them are short sales, but there are some REOs and obviously future REOs.
I do think that this area will drop more, especially the homes (builds) that have held up the most in 91914. I think that homes in 91914 will still be more desirable/valuable then 91913 and 91915, but I think they will catch up to the % drops seen in those Zips. I think this area will probably drop another 20% and will end up down about 40-60% from it’s highs. I also think that you may find $110 sqft for some REOs at the bottom.

[recordsclerk]

Rollingboricua,

Since I have been seriously shopping in this area for the last 3 months and studying this area since 2004, I will try to answer your question. This would be a guess just like anyone else. 91914 has held up better then 91913 and 91915. I think this is due to the fact that there is no Mello Roos except in the Miguel Ranch and Woods areas. I’m am only looking at larger homes 3000sqft and over, so I might be wrong about anything smaller and my samples would be from homes 3000sqft and larger. The homes in the Woods area have dropped dramatically and there are REOs listed at 30-40% loss since last/original saler. There are a lot of short sales in that area also. The newer 91914 area east of Hunte and North of Proctor Valley (EH) are just starting to get under way due to the fact that they were sold 2005 and later. Castillian seems to be the first build that is showing distress. I think Quintessa is next and only a few months away from showing distress. Clearstory and Provence will come after that, but I don’t think there will be as many distressed sellers due to loan resets, I think they will just simply walk away because their homes are 20-30% underwater and they will not want to continue to pay when it makes more since just walking away and saving a few 100K.
The gated homes in (Tessera?) off Duncan Ranch have held up until recently. These homes were going for 900k and up. There are about 8 active listings and 2 or 3 are for under 700K. Just last month you wouldn’t see any listings under 700k, I think the lowest was 750k+.
The homes off Duncan Ranch north of Protor Valley (Magnolia Hills?) have also held up pretty good. I have not seen anything under 700K.
The homes in Miguel Ranch that were built 2003-2005ish have not fared as good. There are still some owners in denial in that area, but REO’s are listing in the high 500K- low 600s.
In 91915 and 91913 you can find listings for 3000sqft homes in the low to mid 500s. The Windingwalk area is a mess. There are so many listings in a 6 block radius. Most of them are short sales, but there are some REOs and obviously future REOs.
I do think that this area will drop more, especially the homes (builds) that have held up the most in 91914. I think that homes in 91914 will still be more desirable/valuable then 91913 and 91915, but I think they will catch up to the % drops seen in those Zips. I think this area will probably drop another 20% and will end up down about 40-60% from it’s highs. I also think that you may find $110 sqft for some REOs at the bottom.

[recordsclerk]

Rollingboricua,

Since I have been seriously shopping in this area for the last 3 months and studying this area since 2004, I will try to answer your question. This would be a guess just like anyone else. 91914 has held up better then 91913 and 91915. I think this is due to the fact that there is no Mello Roos except in the Miguel Ranch and Woods areas. I’m am only looking at larger homes 3000sqft and over, so I might be wrong about anything smaller and my samples would be from homes 3000sqft and larger. The homes in the Woods area have dropped dramatically and there are REOs listed at 30-40% loss since last/original saler. There are a lot of short sales in that area also. The newer 91914 area east of Hunte and North of Proctor Valley (EH) are just starting to get under way due to the fact that they were sold 2005 and later. Castillian seems to be the first build that is showing distress. I think Quintessa is next and only a few months away from showing distress. Clearstory and Provence will come after that, but I don’t think there will be as many distressed sellers due to loan resets, I think they will just simply walk away because their homes are 20-30% underwater and they will not want to continue to pay when it makes more since just walking away and saving a few 100K.
The gated homes in (Tessera?) off Duncan Ranch have held up until recently. These homes were going for 900k and up. There are about 8 active listings and 2 or 3 are for under 700K. Just last month you wouldn’t see any listings under 700k, I think the lowest was 750k+.
The homes off Duncan Ranch north of Protor Valley (Magnolia Hills?) have also held up pretty good. I have not seen anything under 700K.
The homes in Miguel Ranch that were built 2003-2005ish have not fared as good. There are still some owners in denial in that area, but REO’s are listing in the high 500K- low 600s.
In 91915 and 91913 you can find listings for 3000sqft homes in the low to mid 500s. The Windingwalk area is a mess. There are so many listings in a 6 block radius. Most of them are short sales, but there are some REOs and obviously future REOs.
I do think that this area will drop more, especially the homes (builds) that have held up the most in 91914. I think that homes in 91914 will still be more desirable/valuable then 91913 and 91915, but I think they will catch up to the % drops seen in those Zips. I think this area will probably drop another 20% and will end up down about 40-60% from it’s highs. I also think that you may find $110 sqft for some REOs at the bottom.

[recordsclerk]

Rollingboricua,

Since I have been seriously shopping in this area for the last 3 months and studying this area since 2004, I will try to answer your question. This would be a guess just like anyone else. 91914 has held up better then 91913 and 91915. I think this is due to the fact that there is no Mello Roos except in the Miguel Ranch and Woods areas. I’m am only looking at larger homes 3000sqft and over, so I might be wrong about anything smaller and my samples would be from homes 3000sqft and larger. The homes in the Woods area have dropped dramatically and there are REOs listed at 30-40% loss since last/original saler. There are a lot of short sales in that area also. The newer 91914 area east of Hunte and North of Proctor Valley (EH) are just starting to get under way due to the fact that they were sold 2005 and later. Castillian seems to be the first build that is showing distress. I think Quintessa is next and only a few months away from showing distress. Clearstory and Provence will come after that, but I don’t think there will be as many distressed sellers due to loan resets, I think they will just simply walk away because their homes are 20-30% underwater and they will not want to continue to pay when it makes more since just walking away and saving a few 100K.
The gated homes in (Tessera?) off Duncan Ranch have held up until recently. These homes were going for 900k and up. There are about 8 active listings and 2 or 3 are for under 700K. Just last month you wouldn’t see any listings under 700k, I think the lowest was 750k+.
The homes off Duncan Ranch north of Protor Valley (Magnolia Hills?) have also held up pretty good. I have not seen anything under 700K.
The homes in Miguel Ranch that were built 2003-2005ish have not fared as good. There are still some owners in denial in that area, but REO’s are listing in the high 500K- low 600s.
In 91915 and 91913 you can find listings for 3000sqft homes in the low to mid 500s. The Windingwalk area is a mess. There are so many listings in a 6 block radius. Most of them are short sales, but there are some REOs and obviously future REOs.
I do think that this area will drop more, especially the homes (builds) that have held up the most in 91914. I think that homes in 91914 will still be more desirable/valuable then 91913 and 91915, but I think they will catch up to the % drops seen in those Zips. I think this area will probably drop another 20% and will end up down about 40-60% from it’s highs. I also think that you may find $110 sqft for some REOs at the bottom.

[Anonymous]

How much longer before this area (91914) bottoms out? Any predictions? 10%, 20% further decline?

[Anonymous]

How much longer before this area (91914) bottoms out? Any predictions? 10%, 20% further decline?

[Anonymous]

How much longer before this area (91914) bottoms out? Any predictions? 10%, 20% further decline?

[Anonymous]

How much longer before this area (91914) bottoms out? Any predictions? 10%, 20% further decline?

[Eugene]

ForeclosureRadar.com is a neat tool.

1308 Silver Hawk got a Notice of Default on December 7th, this could explain lack of recent activity. Sold in Dec 2005 for $1.057m, cash-out refinance in Sep 2006 (took out 100k). His neighbors include 3 REOs, one guy who just got a NOD last month, and two guys attempting short sales just for the heck of it.

2410 Wishing Star is not in default (yet).

[Eugene]

ForeclosureRadar.com is a neat tool.

1308 Silver Hawk got a Notice of Default on December 7th, this could explain lack of recent activity. Sold in Dec 2005 for $1.057m, cash-out refinance in Sep 2006 (took out 100k). His neighbors include 3 REOs, one guy who just got a NOD last month, and two guys attempting short sales just for the heck of it.

2410 Wishing Star is not in default (yet).

[Eugene]

ForeclosureRadar.com is a neat tool.

1308 Silver Hawk got a Notice of Default on December 7th, this could explain lack of recent activity. Sold in Dec 2005 for $1.057m, cash-out refinance in Sep 2006 (took out 100k). His neighbors include 3 REOs, one guy who just got a NOD last month, and two guys attempting short sales just for the heck of it.

2410 Wishing Star is not in default (yet).

[Eugene]

ForeclosureRadar.com is a neat tool.

1308 Silver Hawk got a Notice of Default on December 7th, this could explain lack of recent activity. Sold in Dec 2005 for $1.057m, cash-out refinance in Sep 2006 (took out 100k). His neighbors include 3 REOs, one guy who just got a NOD last month, and two guys attempting short sales just for the heck of it.

2410 Wishing Star is not in default (yet).

[NotCranky]

http://www.sdlookup.com/Property-339A43FA-1863_Sheep_Ranch_Loop_Chula_Vista_CA_91913

Looks like a successful flip of a wamu REO in Chula Vista.I am assuming that the “merchandiser” didn’t do much in the way of repairs because the REO sale closed 11-26-2007. The place was turnkey.Sold fast.

[NotCranky]

http://www.sdlookup.com/Property-339A43FA-1863_Sheep_Ranch_Loop_Chula_Vista_CA_91913

Looks like a successful flip of a wamu REO in Chula Vista.I am assuming that the “merchandiser” didn’t do much in the way of repairs because the REO sale closed 11-26-2007. The place was turnkey.Sold fast.

[NotCranky]

http://www.sdlookup.com/Property-339A43FA-1863_Sheep_Ranch_Loop_Chula_Vista_CA_91913

Looks like a successful flip of a wamu REO in Chula Vista.I am assuming that the “merchandiser” didn’t do much in the way of repairs because the REO sale closed 11-26-2007. The place was turnkey.Sold fast.

[NotCranky]

http://www.sdlookup.com/Property-339A43FA-1863_Sheep_Ranch_Loop_Chula_Vista_CA_91913

Looks like a successful flip of a wamu REO in Chula Vista.I am assuming that the “merchandiser” didn’t do much in the way of repairs because the REO sale closed 11-26-2007. The place was turnkey.Sold fast.

[CMcG]

I went to bugmenot to get a log in and password for zip realty. This works right now:

log-in: [email protected]
Password: bugmenot

[CMcG]

I went to bugmenot to get a log in and password for zip realty. This works right now:

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[CMcG]

I went to bugmenot to get a log in and password for zip realty. This works right now:

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[CMcG]

I went to bugmenot to get a log in and password for zip realty. This works right now:

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[recordsclerk]

This is the first home over 3000sqft to list for under 500K. The list price is 499-550K.
The address is:
2410 Wishing Star Way, Chula Vista, 91915
MLS: 088006395
3817sqft
$131 a sqft. in Chula Vista.
This is probably a short sale and will not sell for this price, but it is the first to be listed for under 500K.

http://www.ziprealty.com/buy_a_home/logged_in/search/home_detail.jsp?listing_num=088006395&page=1&property_type=SFR&mls=mls_sandiego&cKey=lmmxmcz6&source=SANDICOR

[recordsclerk]

This is the first home over 3000sqft to list for under 500K. The list price is 499-550K.
The address is:
2410 Wishing Star Way, Chula Vista, 91915
MLS: 088006395
3817sqft
$131 a sqft. in Chula Vista.
This is probably a short sale and will not sell for this price, but it is the first to be listed for under 500K.

http://www.ziprealty.com/buy_a_home/logged_in/search/home_detail.jsp?listing_num=088006395&page=1&property_type=SFR&mls=mls_sandiego&cKey=lmmxmcz6&source=SANDICOR

[recordsclerk]

This is the first home over 3000sqft to list for under 500K. The list price is 499-550K.
The address is:
2410 Wishing Star Way, Chula Vista, 91915
MLS: 088006395
3817sqft
$131 a sqft. in Chula Vista.
This is probably a short sale and will not sell for this price, but it is the first to be listed for under 500K.

http://www.ziprealty.com/buy_a_home/logged_in/search/home_detail.jsp?listing_num=088006395&page=1&property_type=SFR&mls=mls_sandiego&cKey=lmmxmcz6&source=SANDICOR

[recordsclerk]

This is the first home over 3000sqft to list for under 500K. The list price is 499-550K.
The address is:
2410 Wishing Star Way, Chula Vista, 91915
MLS: 088006395
3817sqft
$131 a sqft. in Chula Vista.
This is probably a short sale and will not sell for this price, but it is the first to be listed for under 500K.

http://www.ziprealty.com/buy_a_home/logged_in/search/home_detail.jsp?listing_num=088006395&page=1&property_type=SFR&mls=mls_sandiego&cKey=lmmxmcz6&source=SANDICOR

[recordsclerk]

Yes that is the house we drove by. This house has a lot of hardscape and may not dip into the 900s, but similar homes that are distress sales will dip into the 900s. This house is a plan 3 and I believe Quintessa is still building so you could probably go to the sales office if you want to look at the model. Most of these homes were built in 2006/2007 and may take more time before they go into forclosure/distress. There was one same model (plan 4) with casita that went pending. It was a short sale that was listed at 925k-1.2mil. Since it’s a short sale it may take some time to find out the final sale price if/when it happens. All the homes in Quintessa have upgraded kitchens and some flooring/bathrooms upgrades, so essentially they should have the same amount/value of upgrades inside. Quintessa is also on my radar, but I could only afford 800K, so for now it’s not a possibility.

[recordsclerk]

Yes that is the house we drove by. This house has a lot of hardscape and may not dip into the 900s, but similar homes that are distress sales will dip into the 900s. This house is a plan 3 and I believe Quintessa is still building so you could probably go to the sales office if you want to look at the model. Most of these homes were built in 2006/2007 and may take more time before they go into forclosure/distress. There was one same model (plan 4) with casita that went pending. It was a short sale that was listed at 925k-1.2mil. Since it’s a short sale it may take some time to find out the final sale price if/when it happens. All the homes in Quintessa have upgraded kitchens and some flooring/bathrooms upgrades, so essentially they should have the same amount/value of upgrades inside. Quintessa is also on my radar, but I could only afford 800K, so for now it’s not a possibility.

[recordsclerk]

Yes that is the house we drove by. This house has a lot of hardscape and may not dip into the 900s, but similar homes that are distress sales will dip into the 900s. This house is a plan 3 and I believe Quintessa is still building so you could probably go to the sales office if you want to look at the model. Most of these homes were built in 2006/2007 and may take more time before they go into forclosure/distress. There was one same model (plan 4) with casita that went pending. It was a short sale that was listed at 925k-1.2mil. Since it’s a short sale it may take some time to find out the final sale price if/when it happens. All the homes in Quintessa have upgraded kitchens and some flooring/bathrooms upgrades, so essentially they should have the same amount/value of upgrades inside. Quintessa is also on my radar, but I could only afford 800K, so for now it’s not a possibility.

[recordsclerk]

Yes that is the house we drove by. This house has a lot of hardscape and may not dip into the 900s, but similar homes that are distress sales will dip into the 900s. This house is a plan 3 and I believe Quintessa is still building so you could probably go to the sales office if you want to look at the model. Most of these homes were built in 2006/2007 and may take more time before they go into forclosure/distress. There was one same model (plan 4) with casita that went pending. It was a short sale that was listed at 925k-1.2mil. Since it’s a short sale it may take some time to find out the final sale price if/when it happens. All the homes in Quintessa have upgraded kitchens and some flooring/bathrooms upgrades, so essentially they should have the same amount/value of upgrades inside. Quintessa is also on my radar, but I could only afford 800K, so for now it’s not a possibility.

[Jumby]

Which house did you drive by? This one?

http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1354539

You think this house could hit 900k eventually?

[Jumby]

Which house did you drive by? This one?

http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1354539

You think this house could hit 900k eventually?

[Jumby]

Which house did you drive by? This one?

http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1354539

You think this house could hit 900k eventually?

[Jumby]

Which house did you drive by? This one?

http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1354539

You think this house could hit 900k eventually?

[Jumby]

Which house did you drive by? This one?

http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1354539

You think this house could hit 900k eventually?

[recordsclerk]

Jumby,

We drove by that house on our way to look at another property down the street. It is very nice, but those pictures make it look more grand. There are a few listings for Quintessa homes in the 1 mil to 1.1 mil. I think these prices are still too high and should go into the 900k in the next few months. There is also a 1 story Quintessa home that just lowered there asking to 970K, but I think that’s still too high. I really like this area, the fact that there’s no mello roos adds to the equation.

[recordsclerk]

Jumby,

We drove by that house on our way to look at another property down the street. It is very nice, but those pictures make it look more grand. There are a few listings for Quintessa homes in the 1 mil to 1.1 mil. I think these prices are still too high and should go into the 900k in the next few months. There is also a 1 story Quintessa home that just lowered there asking to 970K, but I think that’s still too high. I really like this area, the fact that there’s no mello roos adds to the equation.

[recordsclerk]

Jumby,

We drove by that house on our way to look at another property down the street. It is very nice, but those pictures make it look more grand. There are a few listings for Quintessa homes in the 1 mil to 1.1 mil. I think these prices are still too high and should go into the 900k in the next few months. There is also a 1 story Quintessa home that just lowered there asking to 970K, but I think that’s still too high. I really like this area, the fact that there’s no mello roos adds to the equation.

[recordsclerk]

Jumby,

We drove by that house on our way to look at another property down the street. It is very nice, but those pictures make it look more grand. There are a few listings for Quintessa homes in the 1 mil to 1.1 mil. I think these prices are still too high and should go into the 900k in the next few months. There is also a 1 story Quintessa home that just lowered there asking to 970K, but I think that’s still too high. I really like this area, the fact that there’s no mello roos adds to the equation.

[Jumby]

emsith, pacify me for a moment…

Give your predication on the bottom for something like this.

http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1354539

Keep in mind, no Mello Roos and no house behind you.

[Jumby]

emsith, pacify me for a moment…

Give your predication on the bottom for something like this.

http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1354539

Keep in mind, no Mello Roos and no house behind you.

[Jumby]

emsith, pacify me for a moment…

Give your predication on the bottom for something like this.

http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1354539

Keep in mind, no Mello Roos and no house behind you.

[Jumby]

emsith, pacify me for a moment…

Give your predication on the bottom for something like this.

http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1354539

Keep in mind, no Mello Roos and no house behind you.

[Eugene]

I wonder what the bottom will be in this area. $125 per sq ft? 32% cheaper?

The decline will meet some resistance if and when larger houses like those two start going for 420-450k. So you can put 10% down and get a conforming loan on the rest. Imagine getting a new 3400 sf house for 2500/month fixed. Also imagine what it’ll do to resale values in older neighborhoods.

For now, though, I’d like to see the whole market come down to $150/sf. Just over one month ago, 1233 Pinehurst Rd (5/3, 3000 sf) sold for 710k. 1308 Silver Hawk was already listed for 616k.

[Eugene]

I wonder what the bottom will be in this area. $125 per sq ft? 32% cheaper?

The decline will meet some resistance if and when larger houses like those two start going for 420-450k. So you can put 10% down and get a conforming loan on the rest. Imagine getting a new 3400 sf house for 2500/month fixed. Also imagine what it’ll do to resale values in older neighborhoods.

For now, though, I’d like to see the whole market come down to $150/sf. Just over one month ago, 1233 Pinehurst Rd (5/3, 3000 sf) sold for 710k. 1308 Silver Hawk was already listed for 616k.

[Eugene]

I wonder what the bottom will be in this area. $125 per sq ft? 32% cheaper?

The decline will meet some resistance if and when larger houses like those two start going for 420-450k. So you can put 10% down and get a conforming loan on the rest. Imagine getting a new 3400 sf house for 2500/month fixed. Also imagine what it’ll do to resale values in older neighborhoods.

For now, though, I’d like to see the whole market come down to $150/sf. Just over one month ago, 1233 Pinehurst Rd (5/3, 3000 sf) sold for 710k. 1308 Silver Hawk was already listed for 616k.

[Eugene]

I wonder what the bottom will be in this area. $125 per sq ft? 32% cheaper?

The decline will meet some resistance if and when larger houses like those two start going for 420-450k. So you can put 10% down and get a conforming loan on the rest. Imagine getting a new 3400 sf house for 2500/month fixed. Also imagine what it’ll do to resale values in older neighborhoods.

For now, though, I’d like to see the whole market come down to $150/sf. Just over one month ago, 1233 Pinehurst Rd (5/3, 3000 sf) sold for 710k. 1308 Silver Hawk was already listed for 616k.

[Jumby]

wow!! thanks for finding this!

here is the link

http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1364831

A while back I was thinking $150 per sq ft could be the bottom for this area, but looks like I was wrong. If $85 per sq ft (give or take) is close to the bottom in Temecula (per TG), I wonder what the bottom will be in this area. $125 per sq ft? 32% cheaper?

Obviously I’m just rambling and it’s speculation, but I love to dream…

[Jumby]

wow!! thanks for finding this!

here is the link

http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1364831

A while back I was thinking $150 per sq ft could be the bottom for this area, but looks like I was wrong. If $85 per sq ft (give or take) is close to the bottom in Temecula (per TG), I wonder what the bottom will be in this area. $125 per sq ft? 32% cheaper?

Obviously I’m just rambling and it’s speculation, but I love to dream…

[Jumby]

wow!! thanks for finding this!

here is the link

http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1364831

A while back I was thinking $150 per sq ft could be the bottom for this area, but looks like I was wrong. If $85 per sq ft (give or take) is close to the bottom in Temecula (per TG), I wonder what the bottom will be in this area. $125 per sq ft? 32% cheaper?

Obviously I’m just rambling and it’s speculation, but I love to dream…

[Jumby]

wow!! thanks for finding this!

here is the link

http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1364831

A while back I was thinking $150 per sq ft could be the bottom for this area, but looks like I was wrong. If $85 per sq ft (give or take) is close to the bottom in Temecula (per TG), I wonder what the bottom will be in this area. $125 per sq ft? 32% cheaper?

Obviously I’m just rambling and it’s speculation, but I love to dream…

[Eugene]

1389 Old Janal Ranch Road, 5/4, 3,534 sf, just listed for $545,000 to $615,000 ($154 to $174 / sf). That’s more sf for less dough than 1308 Silver Hawk, less than half a mile away.

[Eugene]

1389 Old Janal Ranch Road, 5/4, 3,534 sf, just listed for $545,000 to $615,000 ($154 to $174 / sf). That’s more sf for less dough than 1308 Silver Hawk, less than half a mile away.

[Eugene]

1389 Old Janal Ranch Road, 5/4, 3,534 sf, just listed for $545,000 to $615,000 ($154 to $174 / sf). That’s more sf for less dough than 1308 Silver Hawk, less than half a mile away.

[Eugene]

1389 Old Janal Ranch Road, 5/4, 3,534 sf, just listed for $545,000 to $615,000 ($154 to $174 / sf). That’s more sf for less dough than 1308 Silver Hawk, less than half a mile away.

[Anonymous]

But I think to a point Marion that is what esmith is saying is that Chula Vista is not Diverse by any means. You know my biggest fear is not for me but for my kids when they are old enough to go to school. They will be going to school with kids from Tijuana who are fortunate enough to have relatives that live in Chula Vista so that they can use their address to go to school here. That sucks most of us are paying Mellos and someone elses kid reaps the benefits. And my kids will be learning in Spanish because there will not be any diversity in Chula Vista. This is America but certain people do not treat it like that. Some people feel that we owe them something but we owe nothing to nobody it is not our fault their government cannot get their act together to fix crap so that people have no reason to jump the border and you do not see a bunch of canadians trying to come the US. As soon as the housing market gets better I am out of Chula Vista. I want what is best for my kids and being here with everything that is going on and the things to come I want no part of it and do not want my kids to grow up thinking they are Mexican just because everyone else is. Diversity is gone in Chula Vista and moved up to North County.

[Anonymous]

But I think to a point Marion that is what esmith is saying is that Chula Vista is not Diverse by any means. You know my biggest fear is not for me but for my kids when they are old enough to go to school. They will be going to school with kids from Tijuana who are fortunate enough to have relatives that live in Chula Vista so that they can use their address to go to school here. That sucks most of us are paying Mellos and someone elses kid reaps the benefits. And my kids will be learning in Spanish because there will not be any diversity in Chula Vista. This is America but certain people do not treat it like that. Some people feel that we owe them something but we owe nothing to nobody it is not our fault their government cannot get their act together to fix crap so that people have no reason to jump the border and you do not see a bunch of canadians trying to come the US. As soon as the housing market gets better I am out of Chula Vista. I want what is best for my kids and being here with everything that is going on and the things to come I want no part of it and do not want my kids to grow up thinking they are Mexican just because everyone else is. Diversity is gone in Chula Vista and moved up to North County.

[Anonymous]

But I think to a point Marion that is what esmith is saying is that Chula Vista is not Diverse by any means. You know my biggest fear is not for me but for my kids when they are old enough to go to school. They will be going to school with kids from Tijuana who are fortunate enough to have relatives that live in Chula Vista so that they can use their address to go to school here. That sucks most of us are paying Mellos and someone elses kid reaps the benefits. And my kids will be learning in Spanish because there will not be any diversity in Chula Vista. This is America but certain people do not treat it like that. Some people feel that we owe them something but we owe nothing to nobody it is not our fault their government cannot get their act together to fix crap so that people have no reason to jump the border and you do not see a bunch of canadians trying to come the US. As soon as the housing market gets better I am out of Chula Vista. I want what is best for my kids and being here with everything that is going on and the things to come I want no part of it and do not want my kids to grow up thinking they are Mexican just because everyone else is. Diversity is gone in Chula Vista and moved up to North County.

[Anonymous]

But I think to a point Marion that is what esmith is saying is that Chula Vista is not Diverse by any means. You know my biggest fear is not for me but for my kids when they are old enough to go to school. They will be going to school with kids from Tijuana who are fortunate enough to have relatives that live in Chula Vista so that they can use their address to go to school here. That sucks most of us are paying Mellos and someone elses kid reaps the benefits. And my kids will be learning in Spanish because there will not be any diversity in Chula Vista. This is America but certain people do not treat it like that. Some people feel that we owe them something but we owe nothing to nobody it is not our fault their government cannot get their act together to fix crap so that people have no reason to jump the border and you do not see a bunch of canadians trying to come the US. As soon as the housing market gets better I am out of Chula Vista. I want what is best for my kids and being here with everything that is going on and the things to come I want no part of it and do not want my kids to grow up thinking they are Mexican just because everyone else is. Diversity is gone in Chula Vista and moved up to North County.

[Anonymous]

OMG, so much flame out of my single statement.

Marion, by the time kids get to the middle school, they are sufficiently different. They are influenced by their upbringing and some kinds of influence are better than others. As much as I respect illegal aliens’ willingness to work dead-end jobs for less than minimum wage to support their families, I don’t see them as good influence on their children.

Ok. Esmith, one thing I’ll say in response to what you have posted above is it’s not the kids fault. OK? Mom and Dad may be illegal aliens, but that doesn’t mean the kid is someone that would be a bad influence on your child. The kid cannot help who mom and dad is and deserves a chance to be befriended for who he/she is as a person.

I have nothing against you or anyone wanted the best schools for your kids. I want the same. But, I will say all things being equal, I’m not going to send my kids to schools that have 99% blonde-eyed, blue-eyed kids running around because a culturally diverse environment is best for all kids. You don’t want to raise snobs, or kids who cannot identify with other children of different ethnicities.

But, it sounds like you are saying that you don’t want your kids raised in the slums and you want good schools for them in a safe environment. I understand and agree with that.

[Anonymous]

OMG, so much flame out of my single statement.

Marion, by the time kids get to the middle school, they are sufficiently different. They are influenced by their upbringing and some kinds of influence are better than others. As much as I respect illegal aliens’ willingness to work dead-end jobs for less than minimum wage to support their families, I don’t see them as good influence on their children.

Ok. Esmith, one thing I’ll say in response to what you have posted above is it’s not the kids fault. OK? Mom and Dad may be illegal aliens, but that doesn’t mean the kid is someone that would be a bad influence on your child. The kid cannot help who mom and dad is and deserves a chance to be befriended for who he/she is as a person.

I have nothing against you or anyone wanted the best schools for your kids. I want the same. But, I will say all things being equal, I’m not going to send my kids to schools that have 99% blonde-eyed, blue-eyed kids running around because a culturally diverse environment is best for all kids. You don’t want to raise snobs, or kids who cannot identify with other children of different ethnicities.

But, it sounds like you are saying that you don’t want your kids raised in the slums and you want good schools for them in a safe environment. I understand and agree with that.

[Anonymous]

OMG, so much flame out of my single statement.

Marion, by the time kids get to the middle school, they are sufficiently different. They are influenced by their upbringing and some kinds of influence are better than others. As much as I respect illegal aliens’ willingness to work dead-end jobs for less than minimum wage to support their families, I don’t see them as good influence on their children.

Ok. Esmith, one thing I’ll say in response to what you have posted above is it’s not the kids fault. OK? Mom and Dad may be illegal aliens, but that doesn’t mean the kid is someone that would be a bad influence on your child. The kid cannot help who mom and dad is and deserves a chance to be befriended for who he/she is as a person.

I have nothing against you or anyone wanted the best schools for your kids. I want the same. But, I will say all things being equal, I’m not going to send my kids to schools that have 99% blonde-eyed, blue-eyed kids running around because a culturally diverse environment is best for all kids. You don’t want to raise snobs, or kids who cannot identify with other children of different ethnicities.

But, it sounds like you are saying that you don’t want your kids raised in the slums and you want good schools for them in a safe environment. I understand and agree with that.

[Anonymous]

OMG, so much flame out of my single statement.

Marion, by the time kids get to the middle school, they are sufficiently different. They are influenced by their upbringing and some kinds of influence are better than others. As much as I respect illegal aliens’ willingness to work dead-end jobs for less than minimum wage to support their families, I don’t see them as good influence on their children.

Ok. Esmith, one thing I’ll say in response to what you have posted above is it’s not the kids fault. OK? Mom and Dad may be illegal aliens, but that doesn’t mean the kid is someone that would be a bad influence on your child. The kid cannot help who mom and dad is and deserves a chance to be befriended for who he/she is as a person.

I have nothing against you or anyone wanted the best schools for your kids. I want the same. But, I will say all things being equal, I’m not going to send my kids to schools that have 99% blonde-eyed, blue-eyed kids running around because a culturally diverse environment is best for all kids. You don’t want to raise snobs, or kids who cannot identify with other children of different ethnicities.

But, it sounds like you are saying that you don’t want your kids raised in the slums and you want good schools for them in a safe environment. I understand and agree with that.

[Eugene]

I wonder what esmith considers a racist… I don’t think he realizes all of the assumptions in the comment he posted.

It’s racist and I take serious offense. These kids are human beings, they are no different than your own kids with the exception of being less fortunate.

OMG, so much flame out of my single statement.

Marion, by the time kids get to the middle school, they are sufficiently different. They are influenced by their upbringing and some kinds of influence are better than others. As much as I respect illegal aliens’ willingness to work dead-end jobs for less than minimum wage to support their families, I don’t see them as good influence on their children.

I would be as concerned with my kids going to a school that’ s 50% chinese. Last I checked, there weren’t any chinese ghettos in CA. But I wouldn’t want my kids to grow up in Chula Vista any more than I’d want my kids to grow up among all-white trailer trash in Kearny Mesa.

Hope it helps.

[Eugene]

I wonder what esmith considers a racist… I don’t think he realizes all of the assumptions in the comment he posted.

It’s racist and I take serious offense. These kids are human beings, they are no different than your own kids with the exception of being less fortunate.

OMG, so much flame out of my single statement.

Marion, by the time kids get to the middle school, they are sufficiently different. They are influenced by their upbringing and some kinds of influence are better than others. As much as I respect illegal aliens’ willingness to work dead-end jobs for less than minimum wage to support their families, I don’t see them as good influence on their children.

I would be as concerned with my kids going to a school that’ s 50% chinese. Last I checked, there weren’t any chinese ghettos in CA. But I wouldn’t want my kids to grow up in Chula Vista any more than I’d want my kids to grow up among all-white trailer trash in Kearny Mesa.

Hope it helps.

[Eugene]

I wonder what esmith considers a racist… I don’t think he realizes all of the assumptions in the comment he posted.

It’s racist and I take serious offense. These kids are human beings, they are no different than your own kids with the exception of being less fortunate.

OMG, so much flame out of my single statement.

Marion, by the time kids get to the middle school, they are sufficiently different. They are influenced by their upbringing and some kinds of influence are better than others. As much as I respect illegal aliens’ willingness to work dead-end jobs for less than minimum wage to support their families, I don’t see them as good influence on their children.

I would be as concerned with my kids going to a school that’ s 50% chinese. Last I checked, there weren’t any chinese ghettos in CA. But I wouldn’t want my kids to grow up in Chula Vista any more than I’d want my kids to grow up among all-white trailer trash in Kearny Mesa.

Hope it helps.

[Eugene]

I wonder what esmith considers a racist… I don’t think he realizes all of the assumptions in the comment he posted.

It’s racist and I take serious offense. These kids are human beings, they are no different than your own kids with the exception of being less fortunate.

OMG, so much flame out of my single statement.

Marion, by the time kids get to the middle school, they are sufficiently different. They are influenced by their upbringing and some kinds of influence are better than others. As much as I respect illegal aliens’ willingness to work dead-end jobs for less than minimum wage to support their families, I don’t see them as good influence on their children.

I would be as concerned with my kids going to a school that’ s 50% chinese. Last I checked, there weren’t any chinese ghettos in CA. But I wouldn’t want my kids to grow up in Chula Vista any more than I’d want my kids to grow up among all-white trailer trash in Kearny Mesa.

Hope it helps.

[Anonymous]

Submitted by esmith on December 6, 2007 – 1:57pm.

Even the climate is better in 4S Ranch. Especially if you have kids. Would you rather have your children rub elbows with illegal aliens and kids from Chula Vista ghettos, or send them to a school with good demographic in Poway school district?

I just read this. This statement and way of thinking is unacceptable.

It’s racist and I take serious offense. These kids are human beings, they are no different than your own kids with the exception of being less fortunate.

[Anonymous]

Submitted by esmith on December 6, 2007 – 1:57pm.

Even the climate is better in 4S Ranch. Especially if you have kids. Would you rather have your children rub elbows with illegal aliens and kids from Chula Vista ghettos, or send them to a school with good demographic in Poway school district?

I just read this. This statement and way of thinking is unacceptable.

It’s racist and I take serious offense. These kids are human beings, they are no different than your own kids with the exception of being less fortunate.

[Anonymous]

Submitted by esmith on December 6, 2007 – 1:57pm.

Even the climate is better in 4S Ranch. Especially if you have kids. Would you rather have your children rub elbows with illegal aliens and kids from Chula Vista ghettos, or send them to a school with good demographic in Poway school district?

I just read this. This statement and way of thinking is unacceptable.

It’s racist and I take serious offense. These kids are human beings, they are no different than your own kids with the exception of being less fortunate.

[Anonymous]

Submitted by esmith on December 6, 2007 – 1:57pm.

Even the climate is better in 4S Ranch. Especially if you have kids. Would you rather have your children rub elbows with illegal aliens and kids from Chula Vista ghettos, or send them to a school with good demographic in Poway school district?

I just read this. This statement and way of thinking is unacceptable.

It’s racist and I take serious offense. These kids are human beings, they are no different than your own kids with the exception of being less fortunate.

[Eugene]

Would you have even dared to hope for such a listing even 1 year or 2 years ago? No way. This is more pressure in our favor (and good news for all regular families, actually).

What really amazes me is that people really paid 900k-1m for those houses a year or two ago. In 2005, you could have gotten a new 3000 square foot house in 4S Ranch for high 700’s. Yes it’s a different part of town but come on. Even the climate is better in 4S Ranch. Especially if you have kids. Would you rather have your children rub elbows with illegal aliens and kids from Chula Vista ghettos, or send them to a school with good demographic in Poway school district?

[Eugene]

Would you have even dared to hope for such a listing even 1 year or 2 years ago? No way. This is more pressure in our favor (and good news for all regular families, actually).

What really amazes me is that people really paid 900k-1m for those houses a year or two ago. In 2005, you could have gotten a new 3000 square foot house in 4S Ranch for high 700’s. Yes it’s a different part of town but come on. Even the climate is better in 4S Ranch. Especially if you have kids. Would you rather have your children rub elbows with illegal aliens and kids from Chula Vista ghettos, or send them to a school with good demographic in Poway school district?

[Eugene]

Would you have even dared to hope for such a listing even 1 year or 2 years ago? No way. This is more pressure in our favor (and good news for all regular families, actually).

What really amazes me is that people really paid 900k-1m for those houses a year or two ago. In 2005, you could have gotten a new 3000 square foot house in 4S Ranch for high 700’s. Yes it’s a different part of town but come on. Even the climate is better in 4S Ranch. Especially if you have kids. Would you rather have your children rub elbows with illegal aliens and kids from Chula Vista ghettos, or send them to a school with good demographic in Poway school district?

[Eugene]

Would you have even dared to hope for such a listing even 1 year or 2 years ago? No way. This is more pressure in our favor (and good news for all regular families, actually).

What really amazes me is that people really paid 900k-1m for those houses a year or two ago. In 2005, you could have gotten a new 3000 square foot house in 4S Ranch for high 700’s. Yes it’s a different part of town but come on. Even the climate is better in 4S Ranch. Especially if you have kids. Would you rather have your children rub elbows with illegal aliens and kids from Chula Vista ghettos, or send them to a school with good demographic in Poway school district?

[BuyerWillEPB]

esmith, I agree with you. But in my opinion, it’s the trend that is our friend here. This particular low list price might be rejected, but the important part is that another lower plateau has been breached. That means many more will follow and some of those will sell thereby setting the new comps and continuing the downward spiral.

Would you have even dared to hope for such a listing even 1 year or 2 years ago? No way. This is more pressure in our favor (and good news for all regular families, actually).

[BuyerWillEPB]

esmith, I agree with you. But in my opinion, it’s the trend that is our friend here. This particular low list price might be rejected, but the important part is that another lower plateau has been breached. That means many more will follow and some of those will sell thereby setting the new comps and continuing the downward spiral.

Would you have even dared to hope for such a listing even 1 year or 2 years ago? No way. This is more pressure in our favor (and good news for all regular families, actually).

[BuyerWillEPB]

esmith, I agree with you. But in my opinion, it’s the trend that is our friend here. This particular low list price might be rejected, but the important part is that another lower plateau has been breached. That means many more will follow and some of those will sell thereby setting the new comps and continuing the downward spiral.

Would you have even dared to hope for such a listing even 1 year or 2 years ago? No way. This is more pressure in our favor (and good news for all regular families, actually).

[BuyerWillEPB]

esmith, I agree with you. But in my opinion, it’s the trend that is our friend here. This particular low list price might be rejected, but the important part is that another lower plateau has been breached. That means many more will follow and some of those will sell thereby setting the new comps and continuing the downward spiral.

Would you have even dared to hope for such a listing even 1 year or 2 years ago? No way. This is more pressure in our favor (and good news for all regular families, actually).

[Eugene]

BTW I’m willing to bet twenty bucks that
* It’s a short sale for at least $200k below their loan balance
* They haven’t talked to the bank recently
* If you make them an offer for $610k, bank will decline the short sale

[Eugene]

BTW I’m willing to bet twenty bucks that
* It’s a short sale for at least $200k below their loan balance
* They haven’t talked to the bank recently
* If you make them an offer for $610k, bank will decline the short sale

[Eugene]

BTW I’m willing to bet twenty bucks that
* It’s a short sale for at least $200k below their loan balance
* They haven’t talked to the bank recently
* If you make them an offer for $610k, bank will decline the short sale

[Eugene]

BTW I’m willing to bet twenty bucks that
* It’s a short sale for at least $200k below their loan balance
* They haven’t talked to the bank recently
* If you make them an offer for $610k, bank will decline the short sale

[Eugene]

BTW I’m willing to bet twenty bucks that
* It’s a short sale for at least $200k below their loan balance
* They haven’t talked to the bank recently
* If you make them an offer for $610k, bank will decline the short sale

[Eugene]

Wow. On one tiny street (50-ish homes) we have:

1271 Silver Hawk Way (2,963 sf) – $750k to $791k, original sale $608k (??)
1304 Silver Hawk Way (3,096 sf) – $650k, original sale $911k
1308 Silver Hawk Way (3,381 sf) – $610k to $626k, original sale $1.06m
1315 Silver Hawk Way (3,136 sf) – $700k to $725k, original sale $918k
1316 Silver Hawk Way (3,080 sf) – $686k, REO
1319 Silver Hawk Way (3,381 sf) – $775k, REO
1327 Silver Hawk Way (3,136 sf) – $625k to $650k, original sale $894.5k

1260 Silver Hawk Way (2,565 sf) – REO, currently unlisted
1328 Silver Hawk Way (2,909 sf) – was foreclosed and sold as a REO to a knife catcher for $740k

[Eugene]

Wow. On one tiny street (50-ish homes) we have:

1271 Silver Hawk Way (2,963 sf) – $750k to $791k, original sale $608k (??)
1304 Silver Hawk Way (3,096 sf) – $650k, original sale $911k
1308 Silver Hawk Way (3,381 sf) – $610k to $626k, original sale $1.06m
1315 Silver Hawk Way (3,136 sf) – $700k to $725k, original sale $918k
1316 Silver Hawk Way (3,080 sf) – $686k, REO
1319 Silver Hawk Way (3,381 sf) – $775k, REO
1327 Silver Hawk Way (3,136 sf) – $625k to $650k, original sale $894.5k

1260 Silver Hawk Way (2,565 sf) – REO, currently unlisted
1328 Silver Hawk Way (2,909 sf) – was foreclosed and sold as a REO to a knife catcher for $740k

[Eugene]

Wow. On one tiny street (50-ish homes) we have:

1271 Silver Hawk Way (2,963 sf) – $750k to $791k, original sale $608k (??)
1304 Silver Hawk Way (3,096 sf) – $650k, original sale $911k
1308 Silver Hawk Way (3,381 sf) – $610k to $626k, original sale $1.06m
1315 Silver Hawk Way (3,136 sf) – $700k to $725k, original sale $918k
1316 Silver Hawk Way (3,080 sf) – $686k, REO
1319 Silver Hawk Way (3,381 sf) – $775k, REO
1327 Silver Hawk Way (3,136 sf) – $625k to $650k, original sale $894.5k

1260 Silver Hawk Way (2,565 sf) – REO, currently unlisted
1328 Silver Hawk Way (2,909 sf) – was foreclosed and sold as a REO to a knife catcher for $740k

[Eugene]

Wow. On one tiny street (50-ish homes) we have:

1271 Silver Hawk Way (2,963 sf) – $750k to $791k, original sale $608k (??)
1304 Silver Hawk Way (3,096 sf) – $650k, original sale $911k
1308 Silver Hawk Way (3,381 sf) – $610k to $626k, original sale $1.06m
1315 Silver Hawk Way (3,136 sf) – $700k to $725k, original sale $918k
1316 Silver Hawk Way (3,080 sf) – $686k, REO
1319 Silver Hawk Way (3,381 sf) – $775k, REO
1327 Silver Hawk Way (3,136 sf) – $625k to $650k, original sale $894.5k

1260 Silver Hawk Way (2,565 sf) – REO, currently unlisted
1328 Silver Hawk Way (2,909 sf) – was foreclosed and sold as a REO to a knife catcher for $740k

[PadreBrian]

That should sell well.

It’s another no money down, paid too much, variable intrest rate story.

[PadreBrian]

That should sell well.

It’s another no money down, paid too much, variable intrest rate story.

[PadreBrian]

That should sell well.

It’s another no money down, paid too much, variable intrest rate story.

[PadreBrian]

That should sell well.

It’s another no money down, paid too much, variable intrest rate story.

[KIBU]

When I looked at the picture of the children room in that house, it gave me a very sad feeling. People with dreams and love and family and especially kids are going to be ruined by this downturn of real estate.

f*** all the liars who contributed to this mess.

[KIBU]

When I looked at the picture of the children room in that house, it gave me a very sad feeling. People with dreams and love and family and especially kids are going to be ruined by this downturn of real estate.

f*** all the liars who contributed to this mess.

[KIBU]

When I looked at the picture of the children room in that house, it gave me a very sad feeling. People with dreams and love and family and especially kids are going to be ruined by this downturn of real estate.

f*** all the liars who contributed to this mess.

[KIBU]

When I looked at the picture of the children room in that house, it gave me a very sad feeling. People with dreams and love and family and especially kids are going to be ruined by this downturn of real estate.

f*** all the liars who contributed to this mess.