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December 16, 2007 at 10:38 PM #118939September 2, 2008 at 11:54 PM #265247
greekfire
ParticipantAs sad as it is to say it, this current
presidential cycle has already been decided by the corporate-political-media complex. Obama will win in convincing fashion and McCain will go down as a faux-maverick shill that bowed down to the president/party that preceded him.There you have it. The believers on the Left or the Right will argue their cases to reckless abandon. But all an intelligent observer has to do, however, is to analyze the results of such a two party system, and they will come to the conclusion that…
Our two party system has yielded us with a nation that is:
Nearly $10 trillion dollars in debt (which equates to ~$32K for every man, woman, and child in the US), a foreign war in Iraq that has lasted longer than World War II, over 700 military bases in 130 countries, a severe reduction to our civil liberties (Patriot Act & Real ID card), and a loss of Habeas Corpus.The United States will begin, once again, to see the rise of a viable third party. A third party that, if it does not win elections outright, will, at a minimum, serve to keep the current corrupt parties in check…and will better serve the interests of the people rather than the government. See you in 2012.
September 2, 2008 at 11:54 PM #265465greekfire
ParticipantAs sad as it is to say it, this current
presidential cycle has already been decided by the corporate-political-media complex. Obama will win in convincing fashion and McCain will go down as a faux-maverick shill that bowed down to the president/party that preceded him.There you have it. The believers on the Left or the Right will argue their cases to reckless abandon. But all an intelligent observer has to do, however, is to analyze the results of such a two party system, and they will come to the conclusion that…
Our two party system has yielded us with a nation that is:
Nearly $10 trillion dollars in debt (which equates to ~$32K for every man, woman, and child in the US), a foreign war in Iraq that has lasted longer than World War II, over 700 military bases in 130 countries, a severe reduction to our civil liberties (Patriot Act & Real ID card), and a loss of Habeas Corpus.The United States will begin, once again, to see the rise of a viable third party. A third party that, if it does not win elections outright, will, at a minimum, serve to keep the current corrupt parties in check…and will better serve the interests of the people rather than the government. See you in 2012.
September 2, 2008 at 11:54 PM #265478greekfire
ParticipantAs sad as it is to say it, this current
presidential cycle has already been decided by the corporate-political-media complex. Obama will win in convincing fashion and McCain will go down as a faux-maverick shill that bowed down to the president/party that preceded him.There you have it. The believers on the Left or the Right will argue their cases to reckless abandon. But all an intelligent observer has to do, however, is to analyze the results of such a two party system, and they will come to the conclusion that…
Our two party system has yielded us with a nation that is:
Nearly $10 trillion dollars in debt (which equates to ~$32K for every man, woman, and child in the US), a foreign war in Iraq that has lasted longer than World War II, over 700 military bases in 130 countries, a severe reduction to our civil liberties (Patriot Act & Real ID card), and a loss of Habeas Corpus.The United States will begin, once again, to see the rise of a viable third party. A third party that, if it does not win elections outright, will, at a minimum, serve to keep the current corrupt parties in check…and will better serve the interests of the people rather than the government. See you in 2012.
September 2, 2008 at 11:54 PM #265522greekfire
ParticipantAs sad as it is to say it, this current
presidential cycle has already been decided by the corporate-political-media complex. Obama will win in convincing fashion and McCain will go down as a faux-maverick shill that bowed down to the president/party that preceded him.There you have it. The believers on the Left or the Right will argue their cases to reckless abandon. But all an intelligent observer has to do, however, is to analyze the results of such a two party system, and they will come to the conclusion that…
Our two party system has yielded us with a nation that is:
Nearly $10 trillion dollars in debt (which equates to ~$32K for every man, woman, and child in the US), a foreign war in Iraq that has lasted longer than World War II, over 700 military bases in 130 countries, a severe reduction to our civil liberties (Patriot Act & Real ID card), and a loss of Habeas Corpus.The United States will begin, once again, to see the rise of a viable third party. A third party that, if it does not win elections outright, will, at a minimum, serve to keep the current corrupt parties in check…and will better serve the interests of the people rather than the government. See you in 2012.
September 2, 2008 at 11:54 PM #265556greekfire
ParticipantAs sad as it is to say it, this current
presidential cycle has already been decided by the corporate-political-media complex. Obama will win in convincing fashion and McCain will go down as a faux-maverick shill that bowed down to the president/party that preceded him.There you have it. The believers on the Left or the Right will argue their cases to reckless abandon. But all an intelligent observer has to do, however, is to analyze the results of such a two party system, and they will come to the conclusion that…
Our two party system has yielded us with a nation that is:
Nearly $10 trillion dollars in debt (which equates to ~$32K for every man, woman, and child in the US), a foreign war in Iraq that has lasted longer than World War II, over 700 military bases in 130 countries, a severe reduction to our civil liberties (Patriot Act & Real ID card), and a loss of Habeas Corpus.The United States will begin, once again, to see the rise of a viable third party. A third party that, if it does not win elections outright, will, at a minimum, serve to keep the current corrupt parties in check…and will better serve the interests of the people rather than the government. See you in 2012.
September 3, 2008 at 9:52 PM #265591greekfire
ParticipantHere is a good video (part 1 of 3) of Jesse Ventura railing against the 2 mainstream parties at Ron Paul’s Rally for the Republic yesterday:
September 3, 2008 at 9:52 PM #265805greekfire
ParticipantHere is a good video (part 1 of 3) of Jesse Ventura railing against the 2 mainstream parties at Ron Paul’s Rally for the Republic yesterday:
September 3, 2008 at 9:52 PM #265818greekfire
ParticipantHere is a good video (part 1 of 3) of Jesse Ventura railing against the 2 mainstream parties at Ron Paul’s Rally for the Republic yesterday:
September 3, 2008 at 9:52 PM #265865greekfire
ParticipantHere is a good video (part 1 of 3) of Jesse Ventura railing against the 2 mainstream parties at Ron Paul’s Rally for the Republic yesterday:
September 3, 2008 at 9:52 PM #265897greekfire
ParticipantHere is a good video (part 1 of 3) of Jesse Ventura railing against the 2 mainstream parties at Ron Paul’s Rally for the Republic yesterday:
September 4, 2008 at 7:46 AM #265701svelte
Participant[quote=greekfire]As sad as it is to say it, this current
presidential cycle has already been decided by the corporate-political-media complex. Obama will win in convincing fashion and McCain will go down as a faux-maverick shill that bowed down to the president/party that preceded him… See you in 2012.[/quote]I don’t think it is as clear as that. The republicans have a habit of putting some very negative ads out just weeks before the election and swaying people at the last minute. I have no doubt that is planned again.
What I can’t quite figure out is why so many people, given months to learn about the candidates, can be swayed at the last minute like that.
September 4, 2008 at 7:46 AM #265916svelte
Participant[quote=greekfire]As sad as it is to say it, this current
presidential cycle has already been decided by the corporate-political-media complex. Obama will win in convincing fashion and McCain will go down as a faux-maverick shill that bowed down to the president/party that preceded him… See you in 2012.[/quote]I don’t think it is as clear as that. The republicans have a habit of putting some very negative ads out just weeks before the election and swaying people at the last minute. I have no doubt that is planned again.
What I can’t quite figure out is why so many people, given months to learn about the candidates, can be swayed at the last minute like that.
September 4, 2008 at 7:46 AM #265929svelte
Participant[quote=greekfire]As sad as it is to say it, this current
presidential cycle has already been decided by the corporate-political-media complex. Obama will win in convincing fashion and McCain will go down as a faux-maverick shill that bowed down to the president/party that preceded him… See you in 2012.[/quote]I don’t think it is as clear as that. The republicans have a habit of putting some very negative ads out just weeks before the election and swaying people at the last minute. I have no doubt that is planned again.
What I can’t quite figure out is why so many people, given months to learn about the candidates, can be swayed at the last minute like that.
September 4, 2008 at 7:46 AM #265975svelte
Participant[quote=greekfire]As sad as it is to say it, this current
presidential cycle has already been decided by the corporate-political-media complex. Obama will win in convincing fashion and McCain will go down as a faux-maverick shill that bowed down to the president/party that preceded him… See you in 2012.[/quote]I don’t think it is as clear as that. The republicans have a habit of putting some very negative ads out just weeks before the election and swaying people at the last minute. I have no doubt that is planned again.
What I can’t quite figure out is why so many people, given months to learn about the candidates, can be swayed at the last minute like that.
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