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September 5, 2008 at 11:02 PM #267157September 5, 2008 at 11:54 PM #266862jonnycsdParticipant
Bubba99 says:
more regulation is put in to detour the very greedy from taking everything
Perhaps true to some extent, however regulation better serves the purpose of maintaining the status quo, which benefits the incumbent wealthy while providing barriers to aspiring up and commers. This is certainly the way regulation is used in Brazil and other Latin American nations.
In my opinion, it is better to have a dynamic system, where those who are good stewards of the nations wealth get more to manage, and those who are lazy or irresponsible stewards of wealth are stripped of it by market force.
By the way, exactly what “new creative financial products” would you like to see expunged?
September 5, 2008 at 11:54 PM #267080jonnycsdParticipantBubba99 says:
more regulation is put in to detour the very greedy from taking everything
Perhaps true to some extent, however regulation better serves the purpose of maintaining the status quo, which benefits the incumbent wealthy while providing barriers to aspiring up and commers. This is certainly the way regulation is used in Brazil and other Latin American nations.
In my opinion, it is better to have a dynamic system, where those who are good stewards of the nations wealth get more to manage, and those who are lazy or irresponsible stewards of wealth are stripped of it by market force.
By the way, exactly what “new creative financial products” would you like to see expunged?
September 5, 2008 at 11:54 PM #267094jonnycsdParticipantBubba99 says:
more regulation is put in to detour the very greedy from taking everything
Perhaps true to some extent, however regulation better serves the purpose of maintaining the status quo, which benefits the incumbent wealthy while providing barriers to aspiring up and commers. This is certainly the way regulation is used in Brazil and other Latin American nations.
In my opinion, it is better to have a dynamic system, where those who are good stewards of the nations wealth get more to manage, and those who are lazy or irresponsible stewards of wealth are stripped of it by market force.
By the way, exactly what “new creative financial products” would you like to see expunged?
September 5, 2008 at 11:54 PM #267141jonnycsdParticipantBubba99 says:
more regulation is put in to detour the very greedy from taking everything
Perhaps true to some extent, however regulation better serves the purpose of maintaining the status quo, which benefits the incumbent wealthy while providing barriers to aspiring up and commers. This is certainly the way regulation is used in Brazil and other Latin American nations.
In my opinion, it is better to have a dynamic system, where those who are good stewards of the nations wealth get more to manage, and those who are lazy or irresponsible stewards of wealth are stripped of it by market force.
By the way, exactly what “new creative financial products” would you like to see expunged?
September 5, 2008 at 11:54 PM #267172jonnycsdParticipantBubba99 says:
more regulation is put in to detour the very greedy from taking everything
Perhaps true to some extent, however regulation better serves the purpose of maintaining the status quo, which benefits the incumbent wealthy while providing barriers to aspiring up and commers. This is certainly the way regulation is used in Brazil and other Latin American nations.
In my opinion, it is better to have a dynamic system, where those who are good stewards of the nations wealth get more to manage, and those who are lazy or irresponsible stewards of wealth are stripped of it by market force.
By the way, exactly what “new creative financial products” would you like to see expunged?
September 6, 2008 at 12:29 AM #266882bubba99ParticipantYou know those new financial products like CMO’s, and CDO’s, and trillions in garbage loans to people who put nothing down, had inadequate income and lied about their assets. I would not really care if I were not one of the ones paying for their total lack of fiscal responsibility.
Up until 1999, we had regulations that separated the insured banks from the riskier Financial houses. Risk your shareholders money, not the FDIC’s. That Glass Steagall act was not hardly a South American style “preserve the status quo”, but a reasonable and prudent law to prevent the type of failure we see now.
Clearly the current financial meltdown was seen by many who chose to open their eyes to the “less than adequate” assets secured by the money they were lending and repackaging for sale to themselves and others. Those with their eyes closed were the “wealthy stewards” of the financial systems that made billions by selling crap to gain more. They are not stripped of their ill-gotten gains, you and I are paying for their lack of prudent planning and execution.
Take B. S. or Lehman Bros. for example, leveraged over 20 times, with little due diligence on the crap they bought held or sold swaps on. The stewards are granted their lofty positions more by the social order of the boards of directors than any real accomplishment. And given their poor performance, laws that prevent you and I from being on the hook for their bad judgments are a good thing.
If you want a free market place, the tax payer cannot be the one on the hook every time the “stewards” fail.
September 6, 2008 at 12:29 AM #267100bubba99ParticipantYou know those new financial products like CMO’s, and CDO’s, and trillions in garbage loans to people who put nothing down, had inadequate income and lied about their assets. I would not really care if I were not one of the ones paying for their total lack of fiscal responsibility.
Up until 1999, we had regulations that separated the insured banks from the riskier Financial houses. Risk your shareholders money, not the FDIC’s. That Glass Steagall act was not hardly a South American style “preserve the status quo”, but a reasonable and prudent law to prevent the type of failure we see now.
Clearly the current financial meltdown was seen by many who chose to open their eyes to the “less than adequate” assets secured by the money they were lending and repackaging for sale to themselves and others. Those with their eyes closed were the “wealthy stewards” of the financial systems that made billions by selling crap to gain more. They are not stripped of their ill-gotten gains, you and I are paying for their lack of prudent planning and execution.
Take B. S. or Lehman Bros. for example, leveraged over 20 times, with little due diligence on the crap they bought held or sold swaps on. The stewards are granted their lofty positions more by the social order of the boards of directors than any real accomplishment. And given their poor performance, laws that prevent you and I from being on the hook for their bad judgments are a good thing.
If you want a free market place, the tax payer cannot be the one on the hook every time the “stewards” fail.
September 6, 2008 at 12:29 AM #267114bubba99ParticipantYou know those new financial products like CMO’s, and CDO’s, and trillions in garbage loans to people who put nothing down, had inadequate income and lied about their assets. I would not really care if I were not one of the ones paying for their total lack of fiscal responsibility.
Up until 1999, we had regulations that separated the insured banks from the riskier Financial houses. Risk your shareholders money, not the FDIC’s. That Glass Steagall act was not hardly a South American style “preserve the status quo”, but a reasonable and prudent law to prevent the type of failure we see now.
Clearly the current financial meltdown was seen by many who chose to open their eyes to the “less than adequate” assets secured by the money they were lending and repackaging for sale to themselves and others. Those with their eyes closed were the “wealthy stewards” of the financial systems that made billions by selling crap to gain more. They are not stripped of their ill-gotten gains, you and I are paying for their lack of prudent planning and execution.
Take B. S. or Lehman Bros. for example, leveraged over 20 times, with little due diligence on the crap they bought held or sold swaps on. The stewards are granted their lofty positions more by the social order of the boards of directors than any real accomplishment. And given their poor performance, laws that prevent you and I from being on the hook for their bad judgments are a good thing.
If you want a free market place, the tax payer cannot be the one on the hook every time the “stewards” fail.
September 6, 2008 at 12:29 AM #267160bubba99ParticipantYou know those new financial products like CMO’s, and CDO’s, and trillions in garbage loans to people who put nothing down, had inadequate income and lied about their assets. I would not really care if I were not one of the ones paying for their total lack of fiscal responsibility.
Up until 1999, we had regulations that separated the insured banks from the riskier Financial houses. Risk your shareholders money, not the FDIC’s. That Glass Steagall act was not hardly a South American style “preserve the status quo”, but a reasonable and prudent law to prevent the type of failure we see now.
Clearly the current financial meltdown was seen by many who chose to open their eyes to the “less than adequate” assets secured by the money they were lending and repackaging for sale to themselves and others. Those with their eyes closed were the “wealthy stewards” of the financial systems that made billions by selling crap to gain more. They are not stripped of their ill-gotten gains, you and I are paying for their lack of prudent planning and execution.
Take B. S. or Lehman Bros. for example, leveraged over 20 times, with little due diligence on the crap they bought held or sold swaps on. The stewards are granted their lofty positions more by the social order of the boards of directors than any real accomplishment. And given their poor performance, laws that prevent you and I from being on the hook for their bad judgments are a good thing.
If you want a free market place, the tax payer cannot be the one on the hook every time the “stewards” fail.
September 6, 2008 at 12:29 AM #267192bubba99ParticipantYou know those new financial products like CMO’s, and CDO’s, and trillions in garbage loans to people who put nothing down, had inadequate income and lied about their assets. I would not really care if I were not one of the ones paying for their total lack of fiscal responsibility.
Up until 1999, we had regulations that separated the insured banks from the riskier Financial houses. Risk your shareholders money, not the FDIC’s. That Glass Steagall act was not hardly a South American style “preserve the status quo”, but a reasonable and prudent law to prevent the type of failure we see now.
Clearly the current financial meltdown was seen by many who chose to open their eyes to the “less than adequate” assets secured by the money they were lending and repackaging for sale to themselves and others. Those with their eyes closed were the “wealthy stewards” of the financial systems that made billions by selling crap to gain more. They are not stripped of their ill-gotten gains, you and I are paying for their lack of prudent planning and execution.
Take B. S. or Lehman Bros. for example, leveraged over 20 times, with little due diligence on the crap they bought held or sold swaps on. The stewards are granted their lofty positions more by the social order of the boards of directors than any real accomplishment. And given their poor performance, laws that prevent you and I from being on the hook for their bad judgments are a good thing.
If you want a free market place, the tax payer cannot be the one on the hook every time the “stewards” fail.
September 6, 2008 at 1:05 AM #266892PadreBrianParticipantPreach it! What we have now is NOT free-market…it’s Do anything you like and the gov’t will bail your investment company out.
September 6, 2008 at 1:05 AM #267110PadreBrianParticipantPreach it! What we have now is NOT free-market…it’s Do anything you like and the gov’t will bail your investment company out.
September 6, 2008 at 1:05 AM #267124PadreBrianParticipantPreach it! What we have now is NOT free-market…it’s Do anything you like and the gov’t will bail your investment company out.
September 6, 2008 at 1:05 AM #267170PadreBrianParticipantPreach it! What we have now is NOT free-market…it’s Do anything you like and the gov’t will bail your investment company out.
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