Planned Collapse of America Article SCARY STUFF!

[urbanrealtor]

@socratt:
See previous comment.

You had a not very good thread starter that sounded, frankly, crazy.

When someone commented that it was crazy, you accused him of being a jobless whiner (rather explicitly) and did not seek to clarify your point.

When I made fun of you for this (which I think is totally fair game) you said a very similar thing about me.

I find the assumptions you make about intelligence ironic. Looking over the comments you have here, what assumptions do you think people make about you?

Rebuttal to your point is irrelevant if I can’t figure out what you are saying (and its not as though I don’t have reading skills).

[Anonymous]

Immigration is central to our demise. See the gumball video at Numbersusa.com . We have to shut it off and help ourselves first before we can help others and we need to help others where they live, not bring them here to make our conditions worse.

There is no way we can alleviate the destitution when 80 million more people are added in the third world every year. Resources are finite, so increasing our population will only make matters worse for everyone here in the US. CA is a good example of how the resources are dwindling at an accelerating pace due to immigration (legal and illegal) and there is no end in sight. If the infrastructure is burdened now, how about when the population doubles from immigration in the next 30 years?

As far as the politicians, they have been all bought and paid for, for millinia. Any country that is friendly, and many who are not, their leaders have also been bought. This is business as usual since the US dollar standard. So it will continue “as is” no matter who is voted in. If they cannot be bought, they will be eliminated…as is the standard practice.

The only way out is to vote in an independent who can shut down the Fed, IRS and most of the Federal govt institutions. This will only save the US, unless they can do it in concert with other nations, which is even more unlikely. Basically, the elite don’t want to work, they want to leech off the rest of us and they have set up institutions to feed off of us. No fear needed, just reality.

Sincerely,
StevenO

[Anonymous]

Immigration is central to our demise. See the gumball video at Numbersusa.com . We have to shut it off and help ourselves first before we can help others and we need to help others where they live, not bring them here to make our conditions worse.

There is no way we can alleviate the destitution when 80 million more people are added in the third world every year. Resources are finite, so increasing our population will only make matters worse for everyone here in the US. CA is a good example of how the resources are dwindling at an accelerating pace due to immigration (legal and illegal) and there is no end in sight. If the infrastructure is burdened now, how about when the population doubles from immigration in the next 30 years?

As far as the politicians, they have been all bought and paid for, for millinia. Any country that is friendly, and many who are not, their leaders have also been bought. This is business as usual since the US dollar standard. So it will continue “as is” no matter who is voted in. If they cannot be bought, they will be eliminated…as is the standard practice.

The only way out is to vote in an independent who can shut down the Fed, IRS and most of the Federal govt institutions. This will only save the US, unless they can do it in concert with other nations, which is even more unlikely. Basically, the elite don’t want to work, they want to leech off the rest of us and they have set up institutions to feed off of us. No fear needed, just reality.

Sincerely,
StevenO

[Anonymous]

Immigration is central to our demise. See the gumball video at Numbersusa.com . We have to shut it off and help ourselves first before we can help others and we need to help others where they live, not bring them here to make our conditions worse.

There is no way we can alleviate the destitution when 80 million more people are added in the third world every year. Resources are finite, so increasing our population will only make matters worse for everyone here in the US. CA is a good example of how the resources are dwindling at an accelerating pace due to immigration (legal and illegal) and there is no end in sight. If the infrastructure is burdened now, how about when the population doubles from immigration in the next 30 years?

As far as the politicians, they have been all bought and paid for, for millinia. Any country that is friendly, and many who are not, their leaders have also been bought. This is business as usual since the US dollar standard. So it will continue “as is” no matter who is voted in. If they cannot be bought, they will be eliminated…as is the standard practice.

The only way out is to vote in an independent who can shut down the Fed, IRS and most of the Federal govt institutions. This will only save the US, unless they can do it in concert with other nations, which is even more unlikely. Basically, the elite don’t want to work, they want to leech off the rest of us and they have set up institutions to feed off of us. No fear needed, just reality.

Sincerely,
StevenO

[Anonymous]

Immigration is central to our demise. See the gumball video at Numbersusa.com . We have to shut it off and help ourselves first before we can help others and we need to help others where they live, not bring them here to make our conditions worse.

There is no way we can alleviate the destitution when 80 million more people are added in the third world every year. Resources are finite, so increasing our population will only make matters worse for everyone here in the US. CA is a good example of how the resources are dwindling at an accelerating pace due to immigration (legal and illegal) and there is no end in sight. If the infrastructure is burdened now, how about when the population doubles from immigration in the next 30 years?

As far as the politicians, they have been all bought and paid for, for millinia. Any country that is friendly, and many who are not, their leaders have also been bought. This is business as usual since the US dollar standard. So it will continue “as is” no matter who is voted in. If they cannot be bought, they will be eliminated…as is the standard practice.

The only way out is to vote in an independent who can shut down the Fed, IRS and most of the Federal govt institutions. This will only save the US, unless they can do it in concert with other nations, which is even more unlikely. Basically, the elite don’t want to work, they want to leech off the rest of us and they have set up institutions to feed off of us. No fear needed, just reality.

Sincerely,
StevenO

[Anonymous]

Immigration is central to our demise. See the gumball video at Numbersusa.com . We have to shut it off and help ourselves first before we can help others and we need to help others where they live, not bring them here to make our conditions worse.

There is no way we can alleviate the destitution when 80 million more people are added in the third world every year. Resources are finite, so increasing our population will only make matters worse for everyone here in the US. CA is a good example of how the resources are dwindling at an accelerating pace due to immigration (legal and illegal) and there is no end in sight. If the infrastructure is burdened now, how about when the population doubles from immigration in the next 30 years?

As far as the politicians, they have been all bought and paid for, for millinia. Any country that is friendly, and many who are not, their leaders have also been bought. This is business as usual since the US dollar standard. So it will continue “as is” no matter who is voted in. If they cannot be bought, they will be eliminated…as is the standard practice.

The only way out is to vote in an independent who can shut down the Fed, IRS and most of the Federal govt institutions. This will only save the US, unless they can do it in concert with other nations, which is even more unlikely. Basically, the elite don’t want to work, they want to leech off the rest of us and they have set up institutions to feed off of us. No fear needed, just reality.

Sincerely,
StevenO

[jonnycsd]

The underlying trends that the OP calls out are there, but I do not agree with the implication that it is a planned conspiracy. Extrapolate US demographic trends about 30 years and the USA will look like Brazil. Vast underclasses of uneducated poor, a small middle class that manages things, and a ruling elite that stays in power through generations, with the occasional “union” candidate who “shakes things up” before being co-opted into the system. When politics is about many different groups competing for a bigger slice of the pie rather than governing the nation that is what will happen (clientelismo is what its called in Latin America). The only way to stop it is to discontinue the Federal Government’s role as a redistributor of wealth – end transfer payments.

[jonnycsd]

The underlying trends that the OP calls out are there, but I do not agree with the implication that it is a planned conspiracy. Extrapolate US demographic trends about 30 years and the USA will look like Brazil. Vast underclasses of uneducated poor, a small middle class that manages things, and a ruling elite that stays in power through generations, with the occasional “union” candidate who “shakes things up” before being co-opted into the system. When politics is about many different groups competing for a bigger slice of the pie rather than governing the nation that is what will happen (clientelismo is what its called in Latin America). The only way to stop it is to discontinue the Federal Government’s role as a redistributor of wealth – end transfer payments.

[jonnycsd]

The underlying trends that the OP calls out are there, but I do not agree with the implication that it is a planned conspiracy. Extrapolate US demographic trends about 30 years and the USA will look like Brazil. Vast underclasses of uneducated poor, a small middle class that manages things, and a ruling elite that stays in power through generations, with the occasional “union” candidate who “shakes things up” before being co-opted into the system. When politics is about many different groups competing for a bigger slice of the pie rather than governing the nation that is what will happen (clientelismo is what its called in Latin America). The only way to stop it is to discontinue the Federal Government’s role as a redistributor of wealth – end transfer payments.

[jonnycsd]

The underlying trends that the OP calls out are there, but I do not agree with the implication that it is a planned conspiracy. Extrapolate US demographic trends about 30 years and the USA will look like Brazil. Vast underclasses of uneducated poor, a small middle class that manages things, and a ruling elite that stays in power through generations, with the occasional “union” candidate who “shakes things up” before being co-opted into the system. When politics is about many different groups competing for a bigger slice of the pie rather than governing the nation that is what will happen (clientelismo is what its called in Latin America). The only way to stop it is to discontinue the Federal Government’s role as a redistributor of wealth – end transfer payments.

[jonnycsd]

The underlying trends that the OP calls out are there, but I do not agree with the implication that it is a planned conspiracy. Extrapolate US demographic trends about 30 years and the USA will look like Brazil. Vast underclasses of uneducated poor, a small middle class that manages things, and a ruling elite that stays in power through generations, with the occasional “union” candidate who “shakes things up” before being co-opted into the system. When politics is about many different groups competing for a bigger slice of the pie rather than governing the nation that is what will happen (clientelismo is what its called in Latin America). The only way to stop it is to discontinue the Federal Government’s role as a redistributor of wealth – end transfer payments.

[bubba99]

Truly the rich want to get richer, and do in cycles. At the end of these cycles more regulation is put in to detour the very greedy from taking everything. Unfortunately at the end of the regulation cycle, the regulation is removed (Glass Steagall), and the cycle starts over.

We are now at the start of the re-regulation cycle. If we fail to elect a president that will limit “robber baron capitalism”, the Armageddon scenario may play out, but likely we will put limits on the new combo finance and banking houses, and go along in the next tick of the cycle. The new creative financial products that are heralded as the gift of “a free market place” are crap and need to be eliminated.

[bubba99]

Truly the rich want to get richer, and do in cycles. At the end of these cycles more regulation is put in to detour the very greedy from taking everything. Unfortunately at the end of the regulation cycle, the regulation is removed (Glass Steagall), and the cycle starts over.

We are now at the start of the re-regulation cycle. If we fail to elect a president that will limit “robber baron capitalism”, the Armageddon scenario may play out, but likely we will put limits on the new combo finance and banking houses, and go along in the next tick of the cycle. The new creative financial products that are heralded as the gift of “a free market place” are crap and need to be eliminated.

[bubba99]

Truly the rich want to get richer, and do in cycles. At the end of these cycles more regulation is put in to detour the very greedy from taking everything. Unfortunately at the end of the regulation cycle, the regulation is removed (Glass Steagall), and the cycle starts over.

We are now at the start of the re-regulation cycle. If we fail to elect a president that will limit “robber baron capitalism”, the Armageddon scenario may play out, but likely we will put limits on the new combo finance and banking houses, and go along in the next tick of the cycle. The new creative financial products that are heralded as the gift of “a free market place” are crap and need to be eliminated.

[bubba99]

Truly the rich want to get richer, and do in cycles. At the end of these cycles more regulation is put in to detour the very greedy from taking everything. Unfortunately at the end of the regulation cycle, the regulation is removed (Glass Steagall), and the cycle starts over.

We are now at the start of the re-regulation cycle. If we fail to elect a president that will limit “robber baron capitalism”, the Armageddon scenario may play out, but likely we will put limits on the new combo finance and banking houses, and go along in the next tick of the cycle. The new creative financial products that are heralded as the gift of “a free market place” are crap and need to be eliminated.

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