Piggs and their single daughters?

[davelj]

[quote=briansd1][quote=Ricechex]
Davelj is an arrogant man, and that is not attractive. You on the other hand, seem like a nice guy. Nice guys do finish first.[/quote]

davelj is not arrogant. He’s confident. He speaks the honest truth rather than mince words. That’s admirable in my opinion.

I would agree with scaredcat’s assessment on attraction. I would say that confidence is attractive.[/quote]

Personally, I think arrogant is the wrong adjective.

Arrogant is defined as “making claims or pretensions to superior importance or rights; overbearingly assuming; insolently proud.”

If anything I consider myself quite unimportant personally and, in the larger scheme of things, the human race (and Planet Earth, etc.) as rather unimportant as well. I am and we are irrelevant (but we do have lives to lead). This is the opposite of arrogance.

I think someone’s mistaking arrogance with an understanding of self. I know myself, probably to a greater degree than most folks know themselves. To the extent that anything can truly be “known,” I know what I know, and I know what I don’t know. I readily acknowledge my limitations – which are considerable – I don’t pretend to know something about everything. I know what I like and what I don’t like, and to a greater degree than most I don’t allow social or cultural pressures to influence either.

Most importantly, unlike most people, I don’t have a deep desire to be “liked.” I go to great lengths to attempt to maintain the respect of my professional peers, but I don’t care if they like me or not (and many do not, I can assure you). So I tend to be direct and speak my mind, regardless of how someone might feel about it. And I think it’s this aspect of my personality that’s being confused with arrogance.

Having said all that, if someone still wants to think of me as arrogant, then so be it.

[CA renter]

[quote=briansd1][quote=Ricechex]
Davelj is an arrogant man, and that is not attractive. You on the other hand, seem like a nice guy. Nice guys do finish first.[/quote]

davelj is not arrogant. He’s confident. He speaks the honest truth rather than mince words. That’s admirable in my opinion.

I would agree with scaredcat’s assessment on attraction. I would say that confidence is attractive.[/quote]

You guys aren’t female. Looks like Ricechex and I are both in agreement WRT Josh’s dating prospects. He comes across as a nice guy, and will likely attract a nice girl.

Arrogance certainly can attract girls, but they’re not the type I’d want to attract if I were a guy. Note the poster(s) who think all chicks are “gold diggers” to see what you might attract with that kind of “confidence.”

[CA renter]

[quote=briansd1][quote=Ricechex]
Davelj is an arrogant man, and that is not attractive. You on the other hand, seem like a nice guy. Nice guys do finish first.[/quote]

davelj is not arrogant. He’s confident. He speaks the honest truth rather than mince words. That’s admirable in my opinion.

I would agree with scaredcat’s assessment on attraction. I would say that confidence is attractive.[/quote]

You guys aren’t female. Looks like Ricechex and I are both in agreement WRT Josh’s dating prospects. He comes across as a nice guy, and will likely attract a nice girl.

Arrogance certainly can attract girls, but they’re not the type I’d want to attract if I were a guy. Note the poster(s) who think all chicks are “gold diggers” to see what you might attract with that kind of “confidence.”

[CA renter]

[quote=briansd1][quote=Ricechex]
Davelj is an arrogant man, and that is not attractive. You on the other hand, seem like a nice guy. Nice guys do finish first.[/quote]

davelj is not arrogant. He’s confident. He speaks the honest truth rather than mince words. That’s admirable in my opinion.

I would agree with scaredcat’s assessment on attraction. I would say that confidence is attractive.[/quote]

You guys aren’t female. Looks like Ricechex and I are both in agreement WRT Josh’s dating prospects. He comes across as a nice guy, and will likely attract a nice girl.

Arrogance certainly can attract girls, but they’re not the type I’d want to attract if I were a guy. Note the poster(s) who think all chicks are “gold diggers” to see what you might attract with that kind of “confidence.”

[CA renter]

[quote=briansd1][quote=Ricechex]
Davelj is an arrogant man, and that is not attractive. You on the other hand, seem like a nice guy. Nice guys do finish first.[/quote]

davelj is not arrogant. He’s confident. He speaks the honest truth rather than mince words. That’s admirable in my opinion.

I would agree with scaredcat’s assessment on attraction. I would say that confidence is attractive.[/quote]

You guys aren’t female. Looks like Ricechex and I are both in agreement WRT Josh’s dating prospects. He comes across as a nice guy, and will likely attract a nice girl.

Arrogance certainly can attract girls, but they’re not the type I’d want to attract if I were a guy. Note the poster(s) who think all chicks are “gold diggers” to see what you might attract with that kind of “confidence.”

[CA renter]

[quote=briansd1][quote=Ricechex]
Davelj is an arrogant man, and that is not attractive. You on the other hand, seem like a nice guy. Nice guys do finish first.[/quote]

davelj is not arrogant. He’s confident. He speaks the honest truth rather than mince words. That’s admirable in my opinion.

I would agree with scaredcat’s assessment on attraction. I would say that confidence is attractive.[/quote]

You guys aren’t female. Looks like Ricechex and I are both in agreement WRT Josh’s dating prospects. He comes across as a nice guy, and will likely attract a nice girl.

Arrogance certainly can attract girls, but they’re not the type I’d want to attract if I were a guy. Note the poster(s) who think all chicks are “gold diggers” to see what you might attract with that kind of “confidence.”

[scaredyclassic]

all kinds of women “claim’ to liekcertain sorts of guys, but then become attracted to dominant, confident, not necessarily nice guys. guys–do NOT believe anything a woman says about being attracted to guys who are NICE. it’s a lie! a trap! a test! without an edge in this world, you are doomed. be more like davelj. strong confident beats niceness any day of the week, regardles sof what women say. forget the gold digger remarks. it’s a red herring. nice guys do NOT do well in the dating market. do your own test. see what women go for. don’t act nice just because you might be nice.

[scaredyclassic]

all kinds of women “claim’ to liekcertain sorts of guys, but then become attracted to dominant, confident, not necessarily nice guys. guys–do NOT believe anything a woman says about being attracted to guys who are NICE. it’s a lie! a trap! a test! without an edge in this world, you are doomed. be more like davelj. strong confident beats niceness any day of the week, regardles sof what women say. forget the gold digger remarks. it’s a red herring. nice guys do NOT do well in the dating market. do your own test. see what women go for. don’t act nice just because you might be nice.

[scaredyclassic]

all kinds of women “claim’ to liekcertain sorts of guys, but then become attracted to dominant, confident, not necessarily nice guys. guys–do NOT believe anything a woman says about being attracted to guys who are NICE. it’s a lie! a trap! a test! without an edge in this world, you are doomed. be more like davelj. strong confident beats niceness any day of the week, regardles sof what women say. forget the gold digger remarks. it’s a red herring. nice guys do NOT do well in the dating market. do your own test. see what women go for. don’t act nice just because you might be nice.

[scaredyclassic]

all kinds of women “claim’ to liekcertain sorts of guys, but then become attracted to dominant, confident, not necessarily nice guys. guys–do NOT believe anything a woman says about being attracted to guys who are NICE. it’s a lie! a trap! a test! without an edge in this world, you are doomed. be more like davelj. strong confident beats niceness any day of the week, regardles sof what women say. forget the gold digger remarks. it’s a red herring. nice guys do NOT do well in the dating market. do your own test. see what women go for. don’t act nice just because you might be nice.

[scaredyclassic]

all kinds of women “claim’ to liekcertain sorts of guys, but then become attracted to dominant, confident, not necessarily nice guys. guys–do NOT believe anything a woman says about being attracted to guys who are NICE. it’s a lie! a trap! a test! without an edge in this world, you are doomed. be more like davelj. strong confident beats niceness any day of the week, regardles sof what women say. forget the gold digger remarks. it’s a red herring. nice guys do NOT do well in the dating market. do your own test. see what women go for. don’t act nice just because you might be nice.

[barnaby33]

davelj, interesting that you differentiate likability from respect. I do as well, though not for dating purposes. I think you need to be both nice and confident. As CA renter points out, you may attract women by being solely confident, but probably not the kind I’m interested in. I like balance. I don’t have a Madonna/Whore complex and I certainly would like to avoid daddy issues in mates.

This thread as I originally intended was more about asking for ideas on how to meet more eligible women. Scaredycat, I do ok once I meet them. I just lack a pool from which to draw.

Everybody has their demons. I’m not a sociopath enough to not care what others think of me. On the other hand I’m enough of an adult to know who I am and what I’m interested in.

Josh

[barnaby33]

davelj, interesting that you differentiate likability from respect. I do as well, though not for dating purposes. I think you need to be both nice and confident. As CA renter points out, you may attract women by being solely confident, but probably not the kind I’m interested in. I like balance. I don’t have a Madonna/Whore complex and I certainly would like to avoid daddy issues in mates.

This thread as I originally intended was more about asking for ideas on how to meet more eligible women. Scaredycat, I do ok once I meet them. I just lack a pool from which to draw.

Everybody has their demons. I’m not a sociopath enough to not care what others think of me. On the other hand I’m enough of an adult to know who I am and what I’m interested in.

Josh

[barnaby33]

davelj, interesting that you differentiate likability from respect. I do as well, though not for dating purposes. I think you need to be both nice and confident. As CA renter points out, you may attract women by being solely confident, but probably not the kind I’m interested in. I like balance. I don’t have a Madonna/Whore complex and I certainly would like to avoid daddy issues in mates.

This thread as I originally intended was more about asking for ideas on how to meet more eligible women. Scaredycat, I do ok once I meet them. I just lack a pool from which to draw.

Everybody has their demons. I’m not a sociopath enough to not care what others think of me. On the other hand I’m enough of an adult to know who I am and what I’m interested in.

Josh

[barnaby33]

davelj, interesting that you differentiate likability from respect. I do as well, though not for dating purposes. I think you need to be both nice and confident. As CA renter points out, you may attract women by being solely confident, but probably not the kind I’m interested in. I like balance. I don’t have a Madonna/Whore complex and I certainly would like to avoid daddy issues in mates.

This thread as I originally intended was more about asking for ideas on how to meet more eligible women. Scaredycat, I do ok once I meet them. I just lack a pool from which to draw.

Everybody has their demons. I’m not a sociopath enough to not care what others think of me. On the other hand I’m enough of an adult to know who I am and what I’m interested in.

Josh

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