Pardee Homes in CV (Carriage Ruv vs. Arabella)

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Hi All,

I have been an avid reader for this site for almost a year and glad to stumble on this site before buying. I too used to live in Bay Area like other contributors of this site but my tales of search for new home in CV is pale comparing to Raptorduck. Mine is much less in the $$$ scale. I am looking to purchase new home for no more than $850K (criteria: 1st school district, 2nd is 2000+ sqft)

I have looked at Carriage Run (CR), Arabella, La Costa Green (LCR) and 4S Ranch for the past several weeks and narrowed down to CR vs. Arabella. I like John Laing Homes (JLH) for its style and design in LCR but not crazy about the school district (San Marcos) along with high MR and HOA. Salespeople for JLH are very friendly, courtesy and willing to concede that it is a buyers market. As for 4S, don’t like that area because of too many homes cramped in that community with high HOA, MR and foreclosures.

I like CR and Arabella but still think they are overpriced. The MR & HOA in Arabella is almost $3K/year more than CR. Is it just me or some of you have experienced similar on the attitude of the salespeople is grumpy, snooty and bitchy in CR? The sales pitch between CR and Arabella is day and night but they both work for the same builder. I’ve been to both subdivisions with friends several times and we all walked away with the same feeling about CR.

As for incentives, both locations are not willing to give in much even though both have homes sitting in MLS for over 50 days. The only incentive they offer is the preferred lender to cover closing cost and rate buy down. Does anyone here know if there are other incentives Pardee willing to offer? Thanks in advance for sharing the info. If Pardee not willing to concede more…I guess I will sit on the sideline for awhile until things get more interesting during the peak season in the next couple months

[Coronita]

I like CR and Arabella but still think they are overpriced. The MR & HOA in Arabella is almost $3K/year more than CR. Is it just me or some of you have experienced similar on the attitude of the salespeople is grumpy, snooty and bitchy in CR? The sales pitch between CR and Arabella is day and night but they both work for the same builder. I’ve been to both subdivisions with friends several times and we all walked away with the same feeling about CR.

Yup, that's the Pardee treatment, unless you're asian 🙂 (just kidding)

 

My opinion. In general, I find Pardee to be overpriced for what they offer in terms of quality, craftsmanship, sqft etc. Not saying it's bad, but for tract homes, it could be better.

As for Carriage Run specifically, imho this community imho is a baster child community. Most people will probably find that they will quickly outgrow this home with 1 child. The problem i have with this community is that it's "suppose" to be a starter home. Well, at high seven to $800k+, it's not much of a starter home for most people….It doesn't make sense for to me for people to move up from say an attached home in CV to this place at $800k and then trade up again to something larger….You're paying a huge premium to have the privilege of being the first owner, but there's no way in hell imho that this community is going to "hold value" better than other communities that have already started to show some decline.

As a reference point, back in early 2004, an ok 2600sqft 4bed+bonus/3bath or 5/3bath home in a second tier (non-luxury) community in Torrey Hills would set you back about $850k-$950k. Recently, I've been noticing a few homes have in been going into escrow with a range of this asking price, albeit quickly. So it appears we're starting to see some price correction. Problem is CR or any Pardee Community is still being priced at 2005-2006 peak prices. Personally, I wouldn't buy a Carriage Run home unless pricing was closer to the $650k in today's pricing, but that's just me.

I'd consider resale before considering Pardee frankly. You'll probably have more wiggle room, and be able to get something more for the price Pardee is asking.

 

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[Coronita]

I like CR and Arabella but still think they are overpriced. The MR & HOA in Arabella is almost $3K/year more than CR. Is it just me or some of you have experienced similar on the attitude of the salespeople is grumpy, snooty and bitchy in CR? The sales pitch between CR and Arabella is day and night but they both work for the same builder. I’ve been to both subdivisions with friends several times and we all walked away with the same feeling about CR.

Yup, that's the Pardee treatment, unless you're asian 🙂 (just kidding)

 

My opinion. In general, I find Pardee to be overpriced for what they offer in terms of quality, craftsmanship, sqft etc. Not saying it's bad, but for tract homes, it could be better.

As for Carriage Run specifically, imho this community imho is a baster child community. Most people will probably find that they will quickly outgrow this home with 1 child. The problem i have with this community is that it's "suppose" to be a starter home. Well, at high seven to $800k+, it's not much of a starter home for most people….It doesn't make sense for to me for people to move up from say an attached home in CV to this place at $800k and then trade up again to something larger….You're paying a huge premium to have the privilege of being the first owner, but there's no way in hell imho that this community is going to "hold value" better than other communities that have already started to show some decline.

As a reference point, back in early 2004, an ok 2600sqft 4bed+bonus/3bath or 5/3bath home in a second tier (non-luxury) community in Torrey Hills would set you back about $850k-$950k. Recently, I've been noticing a few homes have in been going into escrow with a range of this asking price, albeit quickly. So it appears we're starting to see some price correction. Problem is CR or any Pardee Community is still being priced at 2005-2006 peak prices. Personally, I wouldn't buy a Carriage Run home unless pricing was closer to the $650k in today's pricing, but that's just me.

I'd consider resale before considering Pardee frankly. You'll probably have more wiggle room, and be able to get something more for the price Pardee is asking.

 

[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]

—– Sour grapes for everyone!

[Coronita]

I like CR and Arabella but still think they are overpriced. The MR & HOA in Arabella is almost $3K/year more than CR. Is it just me or some of you have experienced similar on the attitude of the salespeople is grumpy, snooty and bitchy in CR? The sales pitch between CR and Arabella is day and night but they both work for the same builder. I’ve been to both subdivisions with friends several times and we all walked away with the same feeling about CR.

Yup, that's the Pardee treatment, unless you're asian 🙂 (just kidding)

 

My opinion. In general, I find Pardee to be overpriced for what they offer in terms of quality, craftsmanship, sqft etc. Not saying it's bad, but for tract homes, it could be better.

As for Carriage Run specifically, imho this community imho is a baster child community. Most people will probably find that they will quickly outgrow this home with 1 child. The problem i have with this community is that it's "suppose" to be a starter home. Well, at high seven to $800k+, it's not much of a starter home for most people….It doesn't make sense for to me for people to move up from say an attached home in CV to this place at $800k and then trade up again to something larger….You're paying a huge premium to have the privilege of being the first owner, but there's no way in hell imho that this community is going to "hold value" better than other communities that have already started to show some decline.

As a reference point, back in early 2004, an ok 2600sqft 4bed+bonus/3bath or 5/3bath home in a second tier (non-luxury) community in Torrey Hills would set you back about $850k-$950k. Recently, I've been noticing a few homes have in been going into escrow with a range of this asking price, albeit quickly. So it appears we're starting to see some price correction. Problem is CR or any Pardee Community is still being priced at 2005-2006 peak prices. Personally, I wouldn't buy a Carriage Run home unless pricing was closer to the $650k in today's pricing, but that's just me.

I'd consider resale before considering Pardee frankly. You'll probably have more wiggle room, and be able to get something more for the price Pardee is asking.

 

[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]

—– Sour grapes for everyone!

[Coronita]

I like CR and Arabella but still think they are overpriced. The MR & HOA in Arabella is almost $3K/year more than CR. Is it just me or some of you have experienced similar on the attitude of the salespeople is grumpy, snooty and bitchy in CR? The sales pitch between CR and Arabella is day and night but they both work for the same builder. I’ve been to both subdivisions with friends several times and we all walked away with the same feeling about CR.

Yup, that's the Pardee treatment, unless you're asian 🙂 (just kidding)

 

My opinion. In general, I find Pardee to be overpriced for what they offer in terms of quality, craftsmanship, sqft etc. Not saying it's bad, but for tract homes, it could be better.

As for Carriage Run specifically, imho this community imho is a baster child community. Most people will probably find that they will quickly outgrow this home with 1 child. The problem i have with this community is that it's "suppose" to be a starter home. Well, at high seven to $800k+, it's not much of a starter home for most people….It doesn't make sense for to me for people to move up from say an attached home in CV to this place at $800k and then trade up again to something larger….You're paying a huge premium to have the privilege of being the first owner, but there's no way in hell imho that this community is going to "hold value" better than other communities that have already started to show some decline.

As a reference point, back in early 2004, an ok 2600sqft 4bed+bonus/3bath or 5/3bath home in a second tier (non-luxury) community in Torrey Hills would set you back about $850k-$950k. Recently, I've been noticing a few homes have in been going into escrow with a range of this asking price, albeit quickly. So it appears we're starting to see some price correction. Problem is CR or any Pardee Community is still being priced at 2005-2006 peak prices. Personally, I wouldn't buy a Carriage Run home unless pricing was closer to the $650k in today's pricing, but that's just me.

I'd consider resale before considering Pardee frankly. You'll probably have more wiggle room, and be able to get something more for the price Pardee is asking.

 

[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]

—– Sour grapes for everyone!

[Coronita]

I like CR and Arabella but still think they are overpriced. The MR & HOA in Arabella is almost $3K/year more than CR. Is it just me or some of you have experienced similar on the attitude of the salespeople is grumpy, snooty and bitchy in CR? The sales pitch between CR and Arabella is day and night but they both work for the same builder. I’ve been to both subdivisions with friends several times and we all walked away with the same feeling about CR.

Yup, that's the Pardee treatment, unless you're asian 🙂 (just kidding)

 

My opinion. In general, I find Pardee to be overpriced for what they offer in terms of quality, craftsmanship, sqft etc. Not saying it's bad, but for tract homes, it could be better.

As for Carriage Run specifically, imho this community imho is a baster child community. Most people will probably find that they will quickly outgrow this home with 1 child. The problem i have with this community is that it's "suppose" to be a starter home. Well, at high seven to $800k+, it's not much of a starter home for most people….It doesn't make sense for to me for people to move up from say an attached home in CV to this place at $800k and then trade up again to something larger….You're paying a huge premium to have the privilege of being the first owner, but there's no way in hell imho that this community is going to "hold value" better than other communities that have already started to show some decline.

As a reference point, back in early 2004, an ok 2600sqft 4bed+bonus/3bath or 5/3bath home in a second tier (non-luxury) community in Torrey Hills would set you back about $850k-$950k. Recently, I've been noticing a few homes have in been going into escrow with a range of this asking price, albeit quickly. So it appears we're starting to see some price correction. Problem is CR or any Pardee Community is still being priced at 2005-2006 peak prices. Personally, I wouldn't buy a Carriage Run home unless pricing was closer to the $650k in today's pricing, but that's just me.

I'd consider resale before considering Pardee frankly. You'll probably have more wiggle room, and be able to get something more for the price Pardee is asking.

 

[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]

—– Sour grapes for everyone!

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FLT, I am as Asian as you can get and still didn’t get anywhere with Pardee. I think they just snooty all around in CR unless you pull up with in a Benz. There were two blondes ahead of us pulled into the curve with AMG55 and the sales folks seem to be nicer or gave them more attention. I drive a Honda and obviously that didn’t help my case.

The sales folks in Arabella are very friendly, willing to listen and answer your questions as much as they can. It is just strange that one is more eager to get your business whereas the other didn’t give a rat a$$. I know resale seems better at the moment but I don’t want to spend 900K for a 2500 sqft that is over 5 years old unless that price drops down to the 750K range. Time will tell…hopefully soon.

[Coronita]

I was kidding about the asian comment btw.

Take a look at the most recent comps, plenty of 2600sqft+ in the 800 ies now.

2500 sqft for 750k is coming soon to a home near you.

Patience, dear friend. Patience.

 

Bet you $100 bucks the AMG55 was leased 🙂

BTW: when snooty reps use to ask me in a haughty way "you know you need to prequalify",  what worked for me everytime is I replied in a fake thick accented engrish "even if I pay cash?"… Works everytime.

 

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—– Sour grapes for everyone!

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Don’t know much about Carriage Run but Derby Hill’s new release on Saturday had only two homes left by Sunday morning! The sales office is bragging that Derby is the hottest selling development in San Diego County and it seems like that might be true!

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Don’t know much about Carriage Run but Derby Hill’s new release on Saturday had only two homes left by Sunday morning! The sales office is bragging that Derby is the hottest selling development in San Diego County and it seems like that might be true!

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Don’t know much about Carriage Run but Derby Hill’s new release on Saturday had only two homes left by Sunday morning! The sales office is bragging that Derby is the hottest selling development in San Diego County and it seems like that might be true!

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Don’t know much about Carriage Run but Derby Hill’s new release on Saturday had only two homes left by Sunday morning! The sales office is bragging that Derby is the hottest selling development in San Diego County and it seems like that might be true!

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Don’t know much about Carriage Run but Derby Hill’s new release on Saturday had only two homes left by Sunday morning! The sales office is bragging that Derby is the hottest selling development in San Diego County and it seems like that might be true!

[Coronita]

I was kidding about the asian comment btw.

Take a look at the most recent comps, plenty of 2600sqft+ in the 800 ies now.

2500 sqft for 750k is coming soon to a home near you.

Patience, dear friend. Patience.

 

Bet you $100 bucks the AMG55 was leased 🙂

BTW: when snooty reps use to ask me in a haughty way "you know you need to prequalify",  what worked for me everytime is I replied in a fake thick accented engrish "even if I pay cash?"… Works everytime.

 

[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]

—– Sour grapes for everyone!

[Coronita]

I was kidding about the asian comment btw.

Take a look at the most recent comps, plenty of 2600sqft+ in the 800 ies now.

2500 sqft for 750k is coming soon to a home near you.

Patience, dear friend. Patience.

 

Bet you $100 bucks the AMG55 was leased 🙂

BTW: when snooty reps use to ask me in a haughty way "you know you need to prequalify",  what worked for me everytime is I replied in a fake thick accented engrish "even if I pay cash?"… Works everytime.

 

[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]

—– Sour grapes for everyone!

[Coronita]

I was kidding about the asian comment btw.

Take a look at the most recent comps, plenty of 2600sqft+ in the 800 ies now.

2500 sqft for 750k is coming soon to a home near you.

Patience, dear friend. Patience.

 

Bet you $100 bucks the AMG55 was leased 🙂

BTW: when snooty reps use to ask me in a haughty way "you know you need to prequalify",  what worked for me everytime is I replied in a fake thick accented engrish "even if I pay cash?"… Works everytime.

 

[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]

—– Sour grapes for everyone!

[Coronita]

I was kidding about the asian comment btw.

Take a look at the most recent comps, plenty of 2600sqft+ in the 800 ies now.

2500 sqft for 750k is coming soon to a home near you.

Patience, dear friend. Patience.

 

Bet you $100 bucks the AMG55 was leased 🙂

BTW: when snooty reps use to ask me in a haughty way "you know you need to prequalify",  what worked for me everytime is I replied in a fake thick accented engrish "even if I pay cash?"… Works everytime.

 

[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]

—– Sour grapes for everyone!

[sfexporter]

FLT, I am as Asian as you can get and still didn’t get anywhere with Pardee. I think they just snooty all around in CR unless you pull up with in a Benz. There were two blondes ahead of us pulled into the curve with AMG55 and the sales folks seem to be nicer or gave them more attention. I drive a Honda and obviously that didn’t help my case.

The sales folks in Arabella are very friendly, willing to listen and answer your questions as much as they can. It is just strange that one is more eager to get your business whereas the other didn’t give a rat a$$. I know resale seems better at the moment but I don’t want to spend 900K for a 2500 sqft that is over 5 years old unless that price drops down to the 750K range. Time will tell…hopefully soon.

[sfexporter]

FLT, I am as Asian as you can get and still didn’t get anywhere with Pardee. I think they just snooty all around in CR unless you pull up with in a Benz. There were two blondes ahead of us pulled into the curve with AMG55 and the sales folks seem to be nicer or gave them more attention. I drive a Honda and obviously that didn’t help my case.

The sales folks in Arabella are very friendly, willing to listen and answer your questions as much as they can. It is just strange that one is more eager to get your business whereas the other didn’t give a rat a$$. I know resale seems better at the moment but I don’t want to spend 900K for a 2500 sqft that is over 5 years old unless that price drops down to the 750K range. Time will tell…hopefully soon.

[sfexporter]

FLT, I am as Asian as you can get and still didn’t get anywhere with Pardee. I think they just snooty all around in CR unless you pull up with in a Benz. There were two blondes ahead of us pulled into the curve with AMG55 and the sales folks seem to be nicer or gave them more attention. I drive a Honda and obviously that didn’t help my case.

The sales folks in Arabella are very friendly, willing to listen and answer your questions as much as they can. It is just strange that one is more eager to get your business whereas the other didn’t give a rat a$$. I know resale seems better at the moment but I don’t want to spend 900K for a 2500 sqft that is over 5 years old unless that price drops down to the 750K range. Time will tell…hopefully soon.

[sfexporter]

FLT, I am as Asian as you can get and still didn’t get anywhere with Pardee. I think they just snooty all around in CR unless you pull up with in a Benz. There were two blondes ahead of us pulled into the curve with AMG55 and the sales folks seem to be nicer or gave them more attention. I drive a Honda and obviously that didn’t help my case.

The sales folks in Arabella are very friendly, willing to listen and answer your questions as much as they can. It is just strange that one is more eager to get your business whereas the other didn’t give a rat a$$. I know resale seems better at the moment but I don’t want to spend 900K for a 2500 sqft that is over 5 years old unless that price drops down to the 750K range. Time will tell…hopefully soon.

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