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October 4, 2010 at 12:34 PM #612330October 4, 2010 at 12:45 PM #612335bob2007Participant
I went out looking at 5 series last weekend, through the costco program they were about $500 to $650 over invoice, Audi was $650 over invoice. I though everyone had to be at the $500 mark, but there appears to be some maneuvering going on. Not to mention that “invoice” and “dealer cost” are vastly different.
I drove a 2008 535i as well. I might be the only one that feels this way, but in my opinion the 2008 drove better than the 2011 535i or 550i. The 2011’s felt more disconnected from the road and had a soggy/floating feeling in the front end. I know, its the opposite of all the reviews….
But, the newer electronics were much better.
October 4, 2010 at 12:45 PM #612973bob2007ParticipantI went out looking at 5 series last weekend, through the costco program they were about $500 to $650 over invoice, Audi was $650 over invoice. I though everyone had to be at the $500 mark, but there appears to be some maneuvering going on. Not to mention that “invoice” and “dealer cost” are vastly different.
I drove a 2008 535i as well. I might be the only one that feels this way, but in my opinion the 2008 drove better than the 2011 535i or 550i. The 2011’s felt more disconnected from the road and had a soggy/floating feeling in the front end. I know, its the opposite of all the reviews….
But, the newer electronics were much better.
October 4, 2010 at 12:45 PM #613402bob2007ParticipantI went out looking at 5 series last weekend, through the costco program they were about $500 to $650 over invoice, Audi was $650 over invoice. I though everyone had to be at the $500 mark, but there appears to be some maneuvering going on. Not to mention that “invoice” and “dealer cost” are vastly different.
I drove a 2008 535i as well. I might be the only one that feels this way, but in my opinion the 2008 drove better than the 2011 535i or 550i. The 2011’s felt more disconnected from the road and had a soggy/floating feeling in the front end. I know, its the opposite of all the reviews….
But, the newer electronics were much better.
October 4, 2010 at 12:45 PM #613089bob2007ParticipantI went out looking at 5 series last weekend, through the costco program they were about $500 to $650 over invoice, Audi was $650 over invoice. I though everyone had to be at the $500 mark, but there appears to be some maneuvering going on. Not to mention that “invoice” and “dealer cost” are vastly different.
I drove a 2008 535i as well. I might be the only one that feels this way, but in my opinion the 2008 drove better than the 2011 535i or 550i. The 2011’s felt more disconnected from the road and had a soggy/floating feeling in the front end. I know, its the opposite of all the reviews….
But, the newer electronics were much better.
October 4, 2010 at 12:45 PM #612422bob2007ParticipantI went out looking at 5 series last weekend, through the costco program they were about $500 to $650 over invoice, Audi was $650 over invoice. I though everyone had to be at the $500 mark, but there appears to be some maneuvering going on. Not to mention that “invoice” and “dealer cost” are vastly different.
I drove a 2008 535i as well. I might be the only one that feels this way, but in my opinion the 2008 drove better than the 2011 535i or 550i. The 2011’s felt more disconnected from the road and had a soggy/floating feeling in the front end. I know, its the opposite of all the reviews….
But, the newer electronics were much better.
October 4, 2010 at 2:13 PM #612360AnonymousGuestWhat is the differnece between invoice and dealer cost? (I’m looking for a definition.) Obviously dealer cost must be less because it is not uncommon for dealers to sell at invoice.
I always assumed that anything they made above invoice was fudge factor for the comissioned salespeople. That is why it is important to set up an appt with Internet sales so you don’t have to deal with a commissioned sales goon. If you are smart enough to know you can get the car at or near invoice, then it is just a big waste of time dealing with the commisioned sales goon cause at invoice he can’t make any commission.
Of course it is obvious that dealers make a lot of money scamming all of the unnecessary after market crap (i.e. lojack, extended warrantee, ..) so maybe they are willing to sell a car with little or no profit if they assume they can sell you other crap.
October 4, 2010 at 2:13 PM #613113AnonymousGuestWhat is the differnece between invoice and dealer cost? (I’m looking for a definition.) Obviously dealer cost must be less because it is not uncommon for dealers to sell at invoice.
I always assumed that anything they made above invoice was fudge factor for the comissioned salespeople. That is why it is important to set up an appt with Internet sales so you don’t have to deal with a commissioned sales goon. If you are smart enough to know you can get the car at or near invoice, then it is just a big waste of time dealing with the commisioned sales goon cause at invoice he can’t make any commission.
Of course it is obvious that dealers make a lot of money scamming all of the unnecessary after market crap (i.e. lojack, extended warrantee, ..) so maybe they are willing to sell a car with little or no profit if they assume they can sell you other crap.
October 4, 2010 at 2:13 PM #612446AnonymousGuestWhat is the differnece between invoice and dealer cost? (I’m looking for a definition.) Obviously dealer cost must be less because it is not uncommon for dealers to sell at invoice.
I always assumed that anything they made above invoice was fudge factor for the comissioned salespeople. That is why it is important to set up an appt with Internet sales so you don’t have to deal with a commissioned sales goon. If you are smart enough to know you can get the car at or near invoice, then it is just a big waste of time dealing with the commisioned sales goon cause at invoice he can’t make any commission.
Of course it is obvious that dealers make a lot of money scamming all of the unnecessary after market crap (i.e. lojack, extended warrantee, ..) so maybe they are willing to sell a car with little or no profit if they assume they can sell you other crap.
October 4, 2010 at 2:13 PM #613427AnonymousGuestWhat is the differnece between invoice and dealer cost? (I’m looking for a definition.) Obviously dealer cost must be less because it is not uncommon for dealers to sell at invoice.
I always assumed that anything they made above invoice was fudge factor for the comissioned salespeople. That is why it is important to set up an appt with Internet sales so you don’t have to deal with a commissioned sales goon. If you are smart enough to know you can get the car at or near invoice, then it is just a big waste of time dealing with the commisioned sales goon cause at invoice he can’t make any commission.
Of course it is obvious that dealers make a lot of money scamming all of the unnecessary after market crap (i.e. lojack, extended warrantee, ..) so maybe they are willing to sell a car with little or no profit if they assume they can sell you other crap.
October 4, 2010 at 2:13 PM #612998AnonymousGuestWhat is the differnece between invoice and dealer cost? (I’m looking for a definition.) Obviously dealer cost must be less because it is not uncommon for dealers to sell at invoice.
I always assumed that anything they made above invoice was fudge factor for the comissioned salespeople. That is why it is important to set up an appt with Internet sales so you don’t have to deal with a commissioned sales goon. If you are smart enough to know you can get the car at or near invoice, then it is just a big waste of time dealing with the commisioned sales goon cause at invoice he can’t make any commission.
Of course it is obvious that dealers make a lot of money scamming all of the unnecessary after market crap (i.e. lojack, extended warrantee, ..) so maybe they are willing to sell a car with little or no profit if they assume they can sell you other crap.
October 4, 2010 at 2:16 PM #612456AnonymousGuestOh and the biggest scam of all is that protective paint sealant they charge north of $500 for. You could do it your self or have it done by a professional detailer for 1/4 the cost.
October 4, 2010 at 2:16 PM #613123AnonymousGuestOh and the biggest scam of all is that protective paint sealant they charge north of $500 for. You could do it your self or have it done by a professional detailer for 1/4 the cost.
October 4, 2010 at 2:16 PM #613437AnonymousGuestOh and the biggest scam of all is that protective paint sealant they charge north of $500 for. You could do it your self or have it done by a professional detailer for 1/4 the cost.
October 4, 2010 at 2:16 PM #613008AnonymousGuestOh and the biggest scam of all is that protective paint sealant they charge north of $500 for. You could do it your self or have it done by a professional detailer for 1/4 the cost.
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