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September 25, 2007 at 11:40 AM #85833September 25, 2007 at 11:50 AM #85837ArtifactParticipant
I have spent some time in and around Santee both for work and visiting friends.
I personally have nothing against Santee – the commute would be bad for me working in North county.
The school scores are okay for elementary schools and closer to average for high school. I guess I would call the school score a non-issue for me – not good enough to entice me to come there and not bad enough to scare me away. My wife was a teacher at one point and I fully agree with whoever posted that, at least at the elementary school level, it is all about parent involvement – poor high school scores would scare me more.
I do agree that calling Santee full of mexicans is off – if anything I would think of Santee as pretty solidly middle to lower middle class and very white.
I think the problem with Santee at the moment is exactly what the original post was about – home prices in Santee are WAY too high for a place with a median household income in the mid 60k’s – I agree that wiki is a poor source to cite – city data is a little better:
http://www.city-data.com/city/Santee-California.html
I would not be opposed to living in Santee, but at the moment I can’t afford it without doing some form of horrible mortgage – at a median household income of 65K a year, the median house price in Santee should be 200K to 225K – not 400K+ – that is not a knock on Santee, it is just a statement based on the population’s income and how stupid the housing market is in San Diego. Someone with a graduate degree and a professional, decent paying job SHOULD be able to buy a house in Santee, right?
September 25, 2007 at 11:58 AM #85839little ladyParticipantArtifact
I feel similarly to you, however, Westhills had the highest test scores in the district last year. They are better than average, Santana is more close to average.
I know LOTS of teachers, some on our soccer team(who by the way teaches in Temecula), in my neighborhood, etc…They ALL have high opinions of our schools systems and send their own kids there. I know alot of teachers that opt for private schools too.
“Someone with a graduate degree and a professional, decent paying job SHOULD be able to buy a house in Santee, right?”
Absolutely, everyplace in S.D. is, even south east S.D.
September 25, 2007 at 12:10 PM #85843PadreBrianParticipantSantee has a white trash character. Most property is prop-13’ed, and the old coots aren’t moving. So the tax income is sh*tty. Thus the parks aren’t as nice, and the schools aren’t the richest.
But, the nice thing about the above Standard Pacific homes OP asks about is that the tax rate is nice and low. 1.09%; the entire infrastructure is already there.
In 3 years both the 52 extension, and the zipper lanes should be done. So the rush-hour commute won’t be as bad.
The 30 year 5.375% fixed loan they are offering ain’t bad either.
September 25, 2007 at 12:28 PM #85844little ladyParticipant“Santee has a white trash character. Most property is prop-13’ed, and the old coots aren’t moving.”
I would certainly agree that what alot of people think is that there is alot of “Whitetrash”. There are certainly some out here. There are way more normal, nice families.
We have LOTS of nice parks, and we are getting a huge sports park built in the center of town.
The prop 13 crowd may not be moving, but they are probably on there way out of this world, or not long until they will be.
September 25, 2007 at 12:31 PM #85846NotCrankyParticipantI have a friend who live in Santee and works downtown. He doesn’t worry about the morning commute as he is a very early bird. He takes the 94 East to the 125 North to get home.His wife works in Mission Valley. So far so good.He and his wife are happy with Santee but not looking forward to Fanita Ranch developement. They got a good deal on a big new house right before the run up. They are perfectly happy with no cultural type ammenities to speak of because when they have free time they travel the world.
As a contractor I love the industrial area on the border between El Cajon and Santee. Those shops and light manufacturers supply the stuff a guy really needs and most of them are good at it and a pleasure to work with . We need places like that.
September 25, 2007 at 1:27 PM #85853CritterParticipantSantee Lakes is very cool. Great walking trails around all the lakes and the Spray Ground which shoots up water geysers for kids to romp around in.
Good use of land for that area!
September 25, 2007 at 1:33 PM #85855(former)FormerSanDieganParticipant[img_assist|nid=4914|title=10 Minutes from La Jolla|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=466|height=343]
September 25, 2007 at 1:41 PM #85858VoZangreParticipantSniping
agreed. stay on topic.
I couldn’t resist the urge to jump into the mud wrestling
kiddie pool. 😉That quiz was spot on.
a la proxima…
What matters most
is how well you
walk through the fire…September 25, 2007 at 1:59 PM #85860little ladyParticipant“No point in living 30-40 miles from the nice parts of San Diego”
That is what I was responding to.
Can you read?
ACROSS the 52 is 14.1 miles, that is what I keep saying and it is a short distance.
September 25, 2007 at 8:50 PM #85910CoronitaParticipantNo trying to jab anyone here…But the mention of the honors student reminds me of a bumper sticker that makes me laugh every time i see it on a car. I don't know why I still get a big kick out of it.
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As far as test scores, and best schools. My personal experience in a public school suggests that those aptitude test scores really mean didly.
I mean being at the average school at any school isn't too impressive. It's like saying you are at the average income of some area. It's not going to help you into a top school. So who cares about averages. It's what the individual can/can't do.
That said, how great a teacher at a school is or isn't really has no/little impact on your kid if you have the ability/time/patience to teach your own kids. Case in point. I remember a math teacher that I had once. During Parent/teacher conference, the teacher told my mom that I "needed help", and that I shouldn't pursue an engineering degree because I wouldn't be capable. He cited that I lacked attention and understanding interest.
Well, actually the real reason was this "teacher" was a surfer dude that could barely speak proper engrish. I don't know how he possibly could have gotten a teaching credential, let alone be teaching honors math in junior high. I would clasify him as a beach bum if I saw him outside of class. And this was in an afluent public school. Anyway, I ended up graduating from high school 20th out of 978 students in a fairly competitive and afluent community, where others had far much financial backing…At least it was enough for me to get in to an ivy school. Also, I pretty much AP'ed out of my first two years in college science and math. And pretty much graduated with a top 5 percent out of my engineering class. I loved math and science, but skipped class every other time just so I could hang out with a girl that was studying to be a doctor. Tells you how useful those teachers really are.
Public school math/science teachers was a joke, even in the best public schools. The only reason why I did well was I had a smart and patient father and I enjoyed learning on my own.
September 25, 2007 at 9:06 PM #85914temeculaguyParticipantYou can probably buy one of the models furnished at a bankruptcy auction pretty soon, Standard Pacific will be lucky to stay in business for much longer. Their stock hit a new low today of 6.12 (it was worth 5x that at one point this year and was worth 3x for most of the year). They have serious money problems and are having trouble borrowing. Their tracts, no matter where, are subject to ending up being half built and having “fill in” later (much later) by another developer. If there is an association and it’s not in the final third of build out I would be a little wary.
September 25, 2007 at 9:17 PM #85918mixxalotParticipant200k is what these new homes are worth
Nothing against Santee but it sure is not La Jolla, Del Mar or Solana Beach. Considering how far and little Santee offers compared to rest of San Diego. Otherwise I’d rather buy a 3000 square foot brand spanking new brick executive home in Texas, Arizona, or North Carolina for far less money. Hey, I am a consultant so I can pretty much live anywhere. The only reason why I still am in San Diego is because I have a good deal for a place near the beach and I am too busy right now traveling to buy a place and waiting for prices to bottom out first with the real estate market. Heck even Chula Juana is better deal with nicer malls and things nearby than Santee. And even cheaper than the overpriced stucco boxes by Standard Pacific. I did see a lot of lookee loos though this past weekend.
September 25, 2007 at 10:27 PM #85923AnonymousGuestoh boy another genius this place is loaded with them.
too bad all your teachers thought you were an idiot. you should have went to better schools. i didnt realize if your teachers think your an idiot you can be labeled a geniusSeptember 25, 2007 at 10:50 PM #85925CoronitaParticipantoh boy another genius this place is loaded with them.
too bad all your teachers thought you were an idiot. you should have went to better schools. i didnt realize if your teachers think your an idiot you can be labeled a geniusI wouldn't call anyone I met so far a genius (inclusive). The point I was trying to make…Very little correlation between what a teacher thinks a student can/can't do versus what a person can accomplish. And second, "average test scores" don't mean didly, because the average is so low to begin with. Some of these standardize tests, such as an SAT math is a joke. Teachers are just one of many data points. And considering that the average american stink at math, I take what a "teacher" says about someone's math skills with a grain of salt. As far as going to a 'better" schools. I went to a public school that was as good as it was going to get in california, short of private schools. Where I went, unfortunately, the student parking lot looked a lot nicer than the faculty, similar to what you would see in Torrey Pines HS, only much worse. Furthermore, I'm not convinced sending kids to private school really helps if parents aren't going to be involved. Several folks I knew went to public schools and ended up in Harvard,Stanford,Berkeley,Upenn,etc.
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