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  • March 3, 2011 at 1:30 AM #673775
    temeculaguy
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    I actually feel bad for making mormon jokes earlier in the thread. Yes, it’s hard to understand a college that doesn’t allow caffiene, tobacco, facial hair, alcohol or sex. But it doesn’t mean I don’t respect them, they did what few colleges ever do, they sacrificed sports success for prinicples. I wouldn’t survive a week at BYU, my college days started and ended with violating most of their codes, in fact, my fondest memories were the days I broke them all. Since the age of 17, I have never made it through a single day without doing at least one of the things that would get me kicked out of BYU. But that doesn’t make either of us right or wrong.

    They got killed by and inferior team at home tonight, the best player in the college game right now (Jimmer), went 1 for 9 from the three point line. He’s obviously affected because I think he’s probably good for 3 of 9 from the half court line on any other night.

    But the fact remains, Brandon Davies grew up in Provo, Utah. This was not foriegn to him. He had other opportunities but he accepted the scholarship and the rules that came with it. We have a hard time seeing what the big deal is because probably 99% of us had sex with their girlfriends or boyfriends at one time in their lives as adults. But we didn’t willingly agree that we wouldn’t. It’s the same as buying a house in a neighborhood with a strict HOA then painting your house pink and yellow and getting sued. It’s not a crime to do that, you aren’t hurting anyone, but it’s your fault for buying into an HOA. However, to further the analogy, no HOA would make you change the color of your house if it was bringing in millions of dollars for the HOA and the neighbors. BYU just did that. Respect it even if you don’t agree with it.

    I’m an Aztec Alum, so I should feel good about this but I don’t. It’s unfortunate for the player, the BYU team, but it’s also unfortunate for the Aztecs and their fans. We wanted to meet them in the conference tourney and the national tourney, we wanted to beat them at their best, to exercise our demons. We probably will beat them now, but it won’t feel the same. If SDSU isn’t playing BYU, I’ll root for BYU. Because if it’s not us, then I want ot to be them, especially now. Both teams represent the opposite of what’s wrong with college sports today.

    March 4, 2011 at 7:12 PM #673258
    gandalf
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    No, no, no — no, TG. Get a hold of yourself, man…

    The dude had sex with his girlfriend. What’s the big deal?! By any reasonable measure, he’s not going to hell.

    As for BYU’s honor code, it’s not all that. If we’ve learned anything from preachy moral people, they’re usually the opposite.

    From #3 in the country, to ass-whooping from NM…

    Woot!

    March 4, 2011 at 7:12 PM #673316
    gandalf
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    No, no, no — no, TG. Get a hold of yourself, man…

    The dude had sex with his girlfriend. What’s the big deal?! By any reasonable measure, he’s not going to hell.

    As for BYU’s honor code, it’s not all that. If we’ve learned anything from preachy moral people, they’re usually the opposite.

    From #3 in the country, to ass-whooping from NM…

    Woot!

    March 4, 2011 at 7:12 PM #673927
    gandalf
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    No, no, no — no, TG. Get a hold of yourself, man…

    The dude had sex with his girlfriend. What’s the big deal?! By any reasonable measure, he’s not going to hell.

    As for BYU’s honor code, it’s not all that. If we’ve learned anything from preachy moral people, they’re usually the opposite.

    From #3 in the country, to ass-whooping from NM…

    Woot!

    March 4, 2011 at 7:12 PM #674064
    gandalf
    Participant

    No, no, no — no, TG. Get a hold of yourself, man…

    The dude had sex with his girlfriend. What’s the big deal?! By any reasonable measure, he’s not going to hell.

    As for BYU’s honor code, it’s not all that. If we’ve learned anything from preachy moral people, they’re usually the opposite.

    From #3 in the country, to ass-whooping from NM…

    Woot!

    March 4, 2011 at 7:12 PM #674411
    gandalf
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    No, no, no — no, TG. Get a hold of yourself, man…

    The dude had sex with his girlfriend. What’s the big deal?! By any reasonable measure, he’s not going to hell.

    As for BYU’s honor code, it’s not all that. If we’ve learned anything from preachy moral people, they’re usually the opposite.

    From #3 in the country, to ass-whooping from NM…

    Woot!

    March 5, 2011 at 9:32 AM #673368
    sdrealtor
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    Did Jim McMahon not graduate from BYU? I cant imagine he wasnt boozing and bedding down everything that walked. I hate to pull it out, but is the race card at play in lily white Utah?

    March 5, 2011 at 9:32 AM #673426
    sdrealtor
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    Did Jim McMahon not graduate from BYU? I cant imagine he wasnt boozing and bedding down everything that walked. I hate to pull it out, but is the race card at play in lily white Utah?

    March 5, 2011 at 9:32 AM #674037
    sdrealtor
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    Did Jim McMahon not graduate from BYU? I cant imagine he wasnt boozing and bedding down everything that walked. I hate to pull it out, but is the race card at play in lily white Utah?

    March 5, 2011 at 9:32 AM #674174
    sdrealtor
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    Did Jim McMahon not graduate from BYU? I cant imagine he wasnt boozing and bedding down everything that walked. I hate to pull it out, but is the race card at play in lily white Utah?

    March 5, 2011 at 9:32 AM #674521
    sdrealtor
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    Did Jim McMahon not graduate from BYU? I cant imagine he wasnt boozing and bedding down everything that walked. I hate to pull it out, but is the race card at play in lily white Utah?

    March 5, 2011 at 10:26 AM #673408
    temeculaguy
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    gandalf, please don’t misinterpret my musing as supporting their code. It was about competition and respecting one’s opponent, respectng a team that follows it’s own rules even when those rules hurt their chances. You can think that even if you think they are crazy, which I do.

    sdr, maybe, the early reports were that he deflowered a white mormom princess of theirs, part of it could have been that he is black and part could be that he isn’t mormom. McMahon operated in a different time under a different administration, so I can’t be so sure race was the only factor, but it does look fishy to me too. But I’ll reserve judgment for few more of the facts, based on the amount of attention the story has gotten, I’m sure there are more than a dozen reporters trying to find out the facts and finding out the percentages, numbers, race and religion of the others who have been punished for similar code violations. I’ll bet McMahon’s phone has been ringing off the hook. I see this playing out and eventually becoming and ESPN 30 for 30 documentary. Which by the way, are some of the best examples of film making this decade, watch them all, you wont regret it.

    March 5, 2011 at 10:26 AM #673466
    temeculaguy
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    gandalf, please don’t misinterpret my musing as supporting their code. It was about competition and respecting one’s opponent, respectng a team that follows it’s own rules even when those rules hurt their chances. You can think that even if you think they are crazy, which I do.

    sdr, maybe, the early reports were that he deflowered a white mormom princess of theirs, part of it could have been that he is black and part could be that he isn’t mormom. McMahon operated in a different time under a different administration, so I can’t be so sure race was the only factor, but it does look fishy to me too. But I’ll reserve judgment for few more of the facts, based on the amount of attention the story has gotten, I’m sure there are more than a dozen reporters trying to find out the facts and finding out the percentages, numbers, race and religion of the others who have been punished for similar code violations. I’ll bet McMahon’s phone has been ringing off the hook. I see this playing out and eventually becoming and ESPN 30 for 30 documentary. Which by the way, are some of the best examples of film making this decade, watch them all, you wont regret it.

    March 5, 2011 at 10:26 AM #674077
    temeculaguy
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    gandalf, please don’t misinterpret my musing as supporting their code. It was about competition and respecting one’s opponent, respectng a team that follows it’s own rules even when those rules hurt their chances. You can think that even if you think they are crazy, which I do.

    sdr, maybe, the early reports were that he deflowered a white mormom princess of theirs, part of it could have been that he is black and part could be that he isn’t mormom. McMahon operated in a different time under a different administration, so I can’t be so sure race was the only factor, but it does look fishy to me too. But I’ll reserve judgment for few more of the facts, based on the amount of attention the story has gotten, I’m sure there are more than a dozen reporters trying to find out the facts and finding out the percentages, numbers, race and religion of the others who have been punished for similar code violations. I’ll bet McMahon’s phone has been ringing off the hook. I see this playing out and eventually becoming and ESPN 30 for 30 documentary. Which by the way, are some of the best examples of film making this decade, watch them all, you wont regret it.

    March 5, 2011 at 10:26 AM #674214
    temeculaguy
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    gandalf, please don’t misinterpret my musing as supporting their code. It was about competition and respecting one’s opponent, respectng a team that follows it’s own rules even when those rules hurt their chances. You can think that even if you think they are crazy, which I do.

    sdr, maybe, the early reports were that he deflowered a white mormom princess of theirs, part of it could have been that he is black and part could be that he isn’t mormom. McMahon operated in a different time under a different administration, so I can’t be so sure race was the only factor, but it does look fishy to me too. But I’ll reserve judgment for few more of the facts, based on the amount of attention the story has gotten, I’m sure there are more than a dozen reporters trying to find out the facts and finding out the percentages, numbers, race and religion of the others who have been punished for similar code violations. I’ll bet McMahon’s phone has been ringing off the hook. I see this playing out and eventually becoming and ESPN 30 for 30 documentary. Which by the way, are some of the best examples of film making this decade, watch them all, you wont regret it.

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