OT:Echo dot

[FlyerInHi]

It’s the 21st century version of clap on clap off.

I’m on the board of a deplorable complex. New cameras real and fake. New bright white daylight LED lights that are much brighter and save electricity. Working on sensors for storage rooms, etc.

Soon we will be able to get rid of the undesirables and gentrify the community. Technology is a good thing.

I like the Ring video doorbell and the Ring security light with camera. It’s not bad to save to the cloud because there is no infrastructure. The maintenance is what is costly, much more so than the acquisition costs of the devices.

[spdrun]

The Clapper didn’t transmit audio outside the home.

I for one prefer the “undesirables.” They know how to party and have a good time, enjoy good music, let me work on my car in the street without calling the cops (maybe offer to help), and generally have a lower level of sphincteral tension.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=spdrun]The Clapper didn’t transmit audio outside the home.

I for one prefer the “undesirables.” They know how to party and have a good time, enjoy good music, let me work on my car in the street without calling the cops (maybe offer to help), and generally have a lower level of sphincteral tension.[/quote]

I don’t mind the undesirables generally because I’m a live and let live kinda guy.

Problem is that undesirables have bad lifestyle habits that cost us money. They destroy community property. They are dirty and bring roaches that travel from unit to unit. Their kids are out of control. They make noise that drive away good tenants. They don’t pay rent on time. Plus they don’t have the financial wherewithal to pay what the market will bear. And their cars leak oil that destroy the parking lots.

My fiduciary duty is to the business of real estate.

[spdrun]

The only person who brought roaches to our rental unit was a Hahhhhhrvard grad. Prima donna couldn’t clean worth a damn and liked to leave dirty dishes stacked in the sink.

[FlyerInHi]

Kinda sad, but since people don’t take responsibility for their homes, we have to monitor them.

You’d be surprised how people bitch about safety issues, but their own family members are the ones disabling lights so they can loiter around and smoke/deal drugs.

You know, in San Diego you can call SDPD at anytime of day for loud noise/music. They do come out.

[ucodegen]

[quote=FlyerInHi]
I see that iOS 11 no longer allow apps to access mac adresseses because developers were misusing to track.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/commit-a-crime-your-fitbit-key-fob-or-pacemaker-could-snitch-on-you/2017/10/09/f35a4f30-8f50-11e7-8df5-c2e5cf46c1e2_story.html?utm_term=.2b98d6042480
Andrew Ferguson, a University of the District of Columbia law professor, says we are entering an era of “sensorveillance” when we can expect one device or another to be monitoring us much of the time. The title of a law paper on the topic put the prospect this way: “Technology is Killing Our Opportunity to Lie.”[/quote]

Link to paper: http://scholarship.law.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1018&context=jlt

Interesting ref: http://inns.innsofcourt.org/media/148720/wearable_technology_february_team_handout.pdf

Looks like some reading time…

[CA renter]

[quote=spdrun]No point in doing one’s part to help the police state, though. Push back, disconnect, drop out.

What benefit does something like the Echo have in the house of someone who isn’t disabled? Don’t invite this cr@p inside your home.[/quote]

Well said, spdrun. I’ve always been amazed at how easily some people give up their personal information and privacy rights. I still don’t have a smartphone, and hope to avoid having one for the rest of my life.

[FlyerInHi]

Amazon Key and Cloud Cam coming. More big brother watching.

[spdrun]

Amazon Key is a solution in search of a problem. A one-way package drop box is an elegant solution and doesn’t give a random stranger access to your entire home.

This being said, Amazon Key might have a place — in a backyard shed or garage with a walled-off room with its own door. Make the room only for packages, so the delivery guy doesn’t have free reign of the house.

[FlyerInHi]

Honeywell emailed me about there new system called indiegogo.

So many to choose from. I would like wireless cloud cameras powered by door bell transformer. Only the ring works like that.

I think Amazon may end up dominating the market with their products and Alexa.

[spdrun]

Indiegogo is the site where it’s being marketed.

Thanks but no. I’ll set up my own cameras … and stream to a DVR located in an unobtrusive location under my own (and only my own) control.

Little point in giving an outside party access to photos of my property when a DVR can be the size of an Intel NUC. NUCs are available for $150 with memory. Stick a $50 laptop hard drive in one, and you have enough room for 1000+ hours of storage.

They’re small enough to live in an unobtrusive location that’s unlikely to be stolen — inside an electrical panel or a wall.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=spdrun]Indiegogo is the site where it’s being marketed.

Thanks but no. I’ll set up my own cameras … and stream to a DVR located in an unobtrusive location under my own (and only my own) control.

Little point in giving an outside party access to photos of my property when a DVR can be the size of an Intel NUC. NUCs are available for $150 with memory. Stick a $50 laptop hard drive in one, and you have enough room for 1000+ hours of storage.

They’re small enough to live in an unobtrusive location that’s unlikely to be stolen — inside an electrical panel or a wall.[/quote]

Which one would you suggest?

[spdrun]

DVR?

Throw ZoneMinder on an Intel NUC.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=spdrun]DVR?

Throw ZoneMinder on an Intel NUC.[/quote]

Ok. Thanks. I’ll look into zoneminder. I have a property that could use cameras.
I also need POE cameras. 1080p with good facial recognition. Too lazy to do research so that’s why I don’t have it.

[spdrun]

POE — you need the right kind of switch.

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