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October 20, 2014 at 10:32 PM #779103October 20, 2014 at 11:24 PM #779110
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Participant[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=njtosd]
To quote one of my favorite characters, Syndrome, “When everyone is super, nobody will be.” Beauty is a relative term – to say everyone is beautiful makes it meaningless. You may like everyone, you may find them to be valuable and meritorious, or you may say that physical beauty is unimportant to you in terms of other people’s worth. All of that would be fine. But everyone isn’t beautiful, or smart or funny.
And although I think your motives are genuine, there are a lot of people out there who say everything is great (for example, local school principle who uses the word “amazing” 100 times/parent meeting) to prove the depths of their own enthusiasm, rather than the merit of the object of their compliments.[/quote]
I agree. Superlative terms should be reserved for the top 20% percent.[/quote]
That would be fine if “beautiful” was a superlative term, but it’s not.
October 21, 2014 at 6:54 PM #779166joec
ParticipantI think what this all shows is that society in general clearly values beauty. We can tell ourselves that it doesn’t matter and it’s whats in the inside that counts the most, but that’s just ugly people trying to make themselves feel better.
Every study has shown that more attractive people get better opportunities, get hired more, higher pay, you name it…
Does it suck? Sure, if you’re not high on the looks scale, but that’s how it’s always been and I don’t see it ever changing.
Regarding how people are even if you know them, it still boils down to what people look since everyone can see if without knowing a thing about someone…
I found this article funny when it was first posted…goes back to the reality in society that looks matter a lot, most of the time, more than whatever you do or are good in, especially for girls/women.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/27/sabina-altynbekova-beautiful-volleyball_n_5625530.html
October 21, 2014 at 9:09 PM #779185scaredyclassic
Participantone thing is cetain; hot girls will never go out of style.
October 21, 2014 at 10:57 PM #779208Participant[quote=joec]I think what this all shows is that society in general clearly values beauty. We can tell ourselves that it doesn’t matter and it’s whats in the inside that counts the most, but that’s just ugly people trying to make themselves feel better.
Every study has shown that more attractive people get better opportunities, get hired more, higher pay, you name it…
Does it suck? Sure, if you’re not high on the looks scale, but that’s how it’s always been and I don’t see it ever changing.
Regarding how people are even if you know them, it still boils down to what people look since everyone can see if without knowing a thing about someone…
I found this article funny when it was first posted…goes back to the reality in society that looks matter a lot, most of the time, more than whatever you do or are good in, especially for girls/women.
Yes, this is true. Will probably always will be true, unfortunately.
October 22, 2014 at 10:50 AM #779227njtosd
Participant[quote=joec]I think what this all shows is that society in general clearly values beauty. We can tell ourselves that it doesn’t matter and it’s whats in the inside that counts the most, but that’s just ugly people trying to make themselves feel better.
Every study has shown that more attractive people get better opportunities, get hired more, higher pay, you name it…
Does it suck? Sure, if you’re not high on the looks scale, but that’s how it’s always been and I don’t see it ever changing.
Regarding how people are even if you know them, it still boils down to what people look since everyone can see if without knowing a thing about someone…
I found this article funny when it was first posted…goes back to the reality in society that looks matter a lot, most of the time, more than whatever you do or are good in, especially for girls/women.
I do think I tend to care less about other people’s looks than average, but I’ll leave that aside for the moment. In terms overall public perception, looks appear to matter a lot for men as well, but height and build are at the top of the list. The weight issue is important to both sexes. Interesting article below that estimates the income (with respect to both sexes) necessary to overcome physical traits perceived to be less desirable:
October 22, 2014 at 11:36 AM #779228poorgradstudent
Participant[quote=scaredyclassic]one thing is cetain; hot girls will never go out of style.[/quote]
Of course beauty is fleeting.
October 22, 2014 at 2:08 PM #779234NotCranky
Participant[quote=njtosd][quote=joec]I think what this all shows is that society in general clearly values beauty. We can tell ourselves that it doesn’t matter and it’s whats in the inside that counts the most, but that’s just ugly people trying to make themselves feel better.
Every study has shown that more attractive people get better opportunities, get hired more, higher pay, you name it…
Does it suck? Sure, if you’re not high on the looks scale, but that’s how it’s always been and I don’t see it ever changing.
Regarding how people are even if you know them, it still boils down to what people look since everyone can see if without knowing a thing about someone…
I found this article funny when it was first posted…goes back to the reality in society that looks matter a lot, most of the time, more than whatever you do or are good in, especially for girls/women.
I do think I tend to care less about other people’s looks than average, but I’ll leave that aside for the moment. In terms overall public perception, looks appear to matter a lot for men as well, but height and build are at the top of the list. The weight issue is important to both sexes. Interesting article below that estimates the income (with respect to both sexes) necessary to overcome physical traits perceived to be less desirable:
A good looking,interesting, nice mannered, poor man , honest but less than hyper ambitious has a ton of pull with young women from families of middle class and upper middle class means , but the young lady will be have been preemptively dissuaded from taking a trophy husband because men are seen as success objects as much as women get the sex object thing. The woman will eventually marry a pilot or nerd or banker who might not even be all that nice or interesting and can’t dance.
October 22, 2014 at 2:26 PM #779236Participant[quote=Blogstar] The woman will eventually marry a pilot or nerd or banker who might not even be all that nice or interesting and can’t dance.[/quote]
I do have a bias in favor of achievement. It usually is the result of good work habits and at least moderate emotional stability. You refer to pilots and nerds and bankers as though they are, de facto, boring. The most boring dates I had were with guys who felt they hadn’t achieved enough so they had to reinvent/inflate their careers. And you’re right, whether someone is a good dancer is absolutely not an issue at all, as far as I’m concerned.
October 22, 2014 at 2:39 PM #779237Participant[quote=njtosd][quote=Blogstar] The woman will eventually marry a pilot or nerd or banker who might not even be all that nice or interesting and can’t dance.[/quote]
I do have a bias in favor of achievement. It usually is the result of good work habits and at least moderate emotional stability. You refer to pilots and nerds and bankers as though they are, de facto, boring. The most boring dates I had were with guys who felt they hadn’t achieved enough so they had to reinvent/inflate their careers. And you’re right, whether someone is a good dancer is absolutely not an issue at all, as far as I’m concerned.[/quote]
They wouldn’t have had to rei-nflate their careers if they didn’t think you were looking at them as success objects? They probably hated themselves for giving into it after the date was over.
Your humor bone clearly fell out somewhere along the way. I don’t think women are wrong for those choices necessarily , it’s just a comparison of trends.
October 22, 2014 at 2:42 PM #779238ParticipantLittle girl to little boy, show me yours and I’ll show you mine.
Young lady to young man, show me your career and I’ll show you my mine, (see double entendre)
October 22, 2014 at 4:09 PM #779250Participant[quote=Blogstar]Little girl to little boy, show me yours and I’ll show you mine.
Young lady to young man, show me your career and I’ll show you my mine, (see double entendre)[/quote]
I may have lost my funny bone, but you have some issues with women.
October 22, 2014 at 4:33 PM #779251Participant[quote=njtosd][quote=Blogstar]Little girl to little boy, show me yours and I’ll show you mine.
Young lady to young man, show me your career and I’ll show you my mine, (see double entendre)[/quote]
I may have lost my funny bone, but you have some issues with women.[/quote]
LOL! Of course I do! I used to have more.
October 22, 2014 at 6:30 PM #779259ParticipantI prefer men to women.
October 22, 2014 at 7:25 PM #779261Participant[quote=scaredyclassic]I prefer men to women.[/quote]
All men or just certain men? Like, what if you had a chance to hang out with Scott Peters vs. Miranda Kerr (my son considers her synonymous with “perfect”). And you seem to have married a woman . . . right?
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